Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga

[HiRez]

Yeah, i can't believe that would be true. Thats career suicide.

I don't think so either, it would give him even less leverage for a trade and for afterwards when he wants to sign a new contract. And the timing isn't right, if this were the case maybe you'd do it a couple weeks before the trade window opens, but even then it'd be more destructive than helpful.

I agree that it would be an extreme move by JK but what do you make of Kerr's comments?

I don't know that I have all the quotes from Kerr, but from what I have seen, it could just mean he's busy with the team and just hasn't had time to check in with the training staff (or maybe he did and they told him it was going to be at least another week and check back later — at that point as a coach you probably don't care much since you have the info you need to set roster/rotations).

But I can see how it would look like he does know and is just frustrated too. Hard to know, I don't think we have the full context. If Kuminga was a little bitter in the offseason, it wouldn't be at all surprising if that bitterness is still there, it's going to resurface the first time anything negative happens. Kind of like how you hate your job and you almost leave but they convince you to stay and give you a raise, then a month later you realize all the same problems that made the job bad for you are still there and the extra money is just a temporary relief that doesn't fix anything.

[DAWill1128]

Is Seth Curry not being signed because the Warriors are exploring a Kuminga trade and they are not certain how many players they may have to take back?

[AirP.]

Is Seth Curry not being signed because the Warriors are exploring a Kuminga trade and they are not certain how many players they may have to take back?

They may be waiting to give them more money available for vet minimums if GS does a consolidation trade. Right now, if they did a 3 for 1 trade, they may not have enough money to get up to the 14-player minimum while being hard capped.

[Onus]

I don't think so either, it would give him even less leverage for a trade and for afterwards when he wants to sign a new contract. And the timing isn't right, if this were the case maybe you'd do it a couple weeks before the trade window opens, but even then it'd be more destructive than helpful.

I agree that it would be an extreme move by JK but what do you make of Kerr's comments?

I don't know that I have all the quotes from Kerr, but from what I have seen, it could just mean he's busy with the team and just hasn't had time to check in with the training staff (or maybe he did and they told him it was going to be at least another week and check back later — at that point as a coach you probably don't care much since you have the info you need to set roster/rotations).

But I can see how it would look like he does know and is just frustrated too. Hard to know, I don't think we have the full context. If Kuminga was a little bitter in the offseason, it wouldn't be at all surprising if that bitterness is still there, it's going to resurface the first time anything negative happens. Kind of like how you hate your job and you almost leave but they convince you to stay and give you a raise, then a month later you realize all the same problems that made the job bad for you are still there and the extra money is just a temporary relief that doesn't fix anything.

The troubling quote was when Kerr said the training staff found nothing wrong with jk but jk has been saying he’s feeling soreness. And still feeling soreness and so hasn’t scrimmaged.

[Crazy-Canuck]

I just think kerr is tired of Kuminga.

[Crazy-Canuck]

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It's sounding like kuminga is going all kawhi and uncle dennis on the warriors franchise.

[Onus]

I just think kerr is tired of Kuminga.

I think JK is tired of Kerr. Jan 15 is too far away.

[AirP.]

For just this season (possibly next year too if extended on a 1+1), how much better would GS be with Vucevic instead of Kuminga? No longer small at Center, rebounding would be better, 3pt shooting would be better. GS would be able to mix and match Green, Vucevic, Horford and Post while being able to move TJD for another position of need. Obviously, you'd hope to get some more than an older expiring contract of a vet center for Kuminga, maybe add in TJD for Julian Phillips?

[watch1958]

During the stalemate, Aaron Turner said that unless JK had a multi year deal, the highest priority would be health for free agency. No reason to think that has changed.

[whatisacenter]

During the stalemate, Aaron Turner said that unless JK had a multi year deal, the highest priority would be health for free agency. No reason to think that has changed.

On the QO.

Sounds like he is going to return soon.

[HiRez]

It's sounding like kuminga is going all kawhi and uncle dennis on the warriors franchise.

Then he really got screwed. Could have avoided the whole offseason drama by getting $40M from a fake tree company.

[AirP.]

I'd be talking to Sacramento about a Kuminga for Monk (get rid of his long-term money) and K.Ellis (need to extend him before summer). The bad part is that it couldn't happen until Jan 15th. You'd get your longterm 3&D SG and a scoring 6th man in Monk to help keep GS dangerous with a volume scorer with Curry off the court. This could also turn Podz into a trade piece since you'd have Curry, Ellis, Monk and Melton as your backcourt.

[Onus]

I'd be talking to Sacramento about a Kuminga for Monk (get rid of his long-term money) and K.Ellis (need to extend him before summer). The bad part is that it couldn't happen until Jan 15th. You'd get your longterm 3&D SG and a scoring 6th man in Monk to help keep GS dangerous with a volume scorer with Curry off the court. This could also turn Podz into a trade piece since you'd have Curry, Ellis, Monk and Melton as your backcourt.

I think it’s highly unlikely we trade podz. We tend to overvalue keeping our draft picks.

Though personally I’d follow up your trade with a podz and buddy trade for herb.

[EvanZ]

I'd be talking to Sacramento about a Kuminga for Monk (get rid of his long-term money) and K.Ellis (need to extend him before summer). The bad part is that it couldn't happen until Jan 15th. You'd get your longterm 3&D SG and a scoring 6th man in Monk to help keep GS dangerous with a volume scorer with Curry off the court. This could also turn Podz into a trade piece since you'd have Curry, Ellis, Monk and Melton as your backcourt.

They and we talked about the Kings trade most of the summer. Why is this treading new ground?

[AirP.]

I'd be talking to Sacramento about a Kuminga for Monk (get rid of his long-term money) and K.Ellis (need to extend him before summer). The bad part is that it couldn't happen until Jan 15th. You'd get your longterm 3&D SG and a scoring 6th man in Monk to help keep GS dangerous with a volume scorer with Curry off the court. This could also turn Podz into a trade piece since you'd have Curry, Ellis, Monk and Melton as your backcourt.

I think it’s highly unlikely we trade podz. We tend to overvalue keeping our draft picks.

Though personally I’d follow up your trade with a podz and buddy trade for herb.

GS still needs a center, although I'm ok with Horford for the playoffs, he could get injured and that would make it nearly impossible for GS to go multiple rounds into the playoffs. Green can only handle so many minutes and I'm not trusting Post in the playoffs yet. Center is a position of need, just find a "decent" vet center who can rebound and hopefully has some ability or better to shoot 3s. I think GS is better off with both Green and Butler not having to play up a position where they're playing small.

[EvanZ]

I’m still throwing around the idea of a Nic Claxton trade.

Claxton is having a career year. Shooting nearly 70% from the line. Crazy A:T ratio. He's a perfect Warrior. Let's do this in a Speedy fashion.

[Onus]

I'd be talking to Sacramento about a Kuminga for Monk (get rid of his long-term money) and K.Ellis (need to extend him before summer). The bad part is that it couldn't happen until Jan 15th. You'd get your longterm 3&D SG and a scoring 6th man in Monk to help keep GS dangerous with a volume scorer with Curry off the court. This could also turn Podz into a trade piece since you'd have Curry, Ellis, Monk and Melton as your backcourt.

I think it’s highly unlikely we trade podz. We tend to overvalue keeping our draft picks.

Though personally I’d follow up your trade with a podz and buddy trade for herb.

GS still needs a center, although I'm ok with Horford for the playoffs, he could get injured and that would make it nearly impossible for GS to go multiple rounds into the playoffs. Green can only handle so many minutes and I'm not trusting Post in the playoffs yet. Center is a position of need, just find a "decent" vet center who can rebound and hopefully has some ability or better to shoot 3s. I think GS is better off with both Green and Butler not having to play up a position where they're playing small.

Just play post to soak up minutes in the regular season. He’s our +/- leader and can barely crack 20mpg.

We’re not going to find a decent vet center who plays defense, rebounds and has an ability to shoot 3s for any price we’d be willing to pay.

[AirP.]

I’m still throwing around the idea of a Nic Claxton trade.

Claxton is having a career year. Shooting nearly 70% from the line. Crazy A:T ratio. He's a perfect Warrior. Let's do this in a Speedy fashion.

Wouldn't a perfect Warrior at center shoot 3s? He would be great as a switchable option at center, I wouldn't complain with Kuminga being move in a package for him.

It should be interesting to see which way GS goes with their trades.

[Onus]

I’m still throwing around the idea of a Nic Claxton trade.

Claxton is having a career year. Shooting nearly 70% from the line. Crazy A:T ratio. He's a perfect Warrior. Let's do this in a Speedy fashion.

Where does claxton fit? Are we playing curry/moody/jb/dray/claxton? Most likely not since that’s 3 non shooters. So claxton comes in to play with curry when horford usually does? That’s like what maybe 16 mpg?

And then post still doesn’t start because Kerr and then we still play small?

[AirP.]

I think it’s highly unlikely we trade podz. We tend to overvalue keeping our draft picks.

Though personally I’d follow up your trade with a podz and buddy trade for herb.

GS still needs a center, although I'm ok with Horford for the playoffs, he could get injured and that would make it nearly impossible for GS to go multiple rounds into the playoffs. Green can only handle so many minutes and I'm not trusting Post in the playoffs yet. Center is a position of need, just find a "decent" vet center who can rebound and hopefully has some ability or better to shoot 3s. I think GS is better off with both Green and Butler not having to play up a position where they're playing small.

Just play post to soak up minutes in the regular season. He’s our +/- leader and can barely crack 20mpg.

We’re not going to find a decent vet center who plays defense, rebounds and has an ability to shoot 3s for any price we’d be willing to pay.

Might not get the 3pt shooting with a Center as EvenZ wants Claxton. I look at Dallas possibly rebuilding around Flagg and see both Gafford and PJ Washington both looking like candidates for being traded and both around 14 mil per year being very interesting targets for GS. So many possibilities for GS this year.