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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1761 » by ctorres » Yesterday 6:00 am

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8516knicks wrote:I think we wait and see what Dink can bring first. roughly same size and young with potential. I remember people raving about him in H.S. but he somehow fell short of their projections (though still a multi-year NBA guy).


You think Dink will be ready to contribute this year? I feel like they won't give him a shot until next year.

A vet like Kyle Anderson would probably be given minutes immediately, especially because he fulfills a need on our team.
I thought we were tying to get more athletic , Id rather not add a "slow mo" to a potentially high octane offense. Team Dink all the way for me.


Reading up about him now. I guess you are right

Gonna see who else is out there who fits and would get minutes for us immediately
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Post#1762 » by thebuzzardman » Yesterday 11:08 am

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ctorres wrote:
You think Dink will be ready to contribute this year? I feel like they won't give him a shot until next year.

A vet like Kyle Anderson would probably be given minutes immediately, especially because he fulfills a need on our team.
I thought we were tying to get more athletic , Id rather not add a "slow mo" to a potentially high octane offense. Team Dink all the way for me.


Reading up about him now. I guess you are right

Gonna see who else is out there who fits and would get minutes for us immediately


This is where we are as Knick fans now. Waiting for low first round picks, 2nd rounders and UDFA guys let go from multiple teams to save us.

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Post#1763 » by thebuzzardman » Yesterday 4:36 pm

Get Brook Lopez when the Clippers tear it down.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/6136/brook-lopez#:~:text=2025%2D2026%20Free%20Agent,dead%20cap%20value%20of%20%248%2C750%2C000.

$8,750,000 - Not sure how they organize a trade.
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Post#1764 » by MrDollarBills » Yesterday 8:32 pm

Any interest in Nick Richards?
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Post#1765 » by Iron Mantis » Yesterday 8:41 pm

What can we get for Mitch in a trade?

A young defensive wing who can hit a 3pt?
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Post#1766 » by spree2kawhi » Yesterday 8:58 pm

Iron Mantis wrote:What can we get for Mitch in a trade?

A young defensive wing who can hit a 3pt?

I hope we keep him.
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Post#1767 » by thebuzzardman » Yesterday 8:59 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
Iron Mantis wrote:What can we get for Mitch in a trade?

A young defensive wing who can hit a 3pt?

I hope we keep him.


Yabu + ? + some 2nd rounders for Brook Lopez?
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Post#1768 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Yesterday 9:21 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Get Brook Lopez when the Clippers tear it down.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/6136/brook-lopez#:~:text=2025%2D2026%20Free%20Agent,dead%20cap%20value%20of%20%248%2C750%2C000.

$8,750,000 - Not sure how they organize a trade.

Doesn't look easy. The Knicks would have to take back as many players as they send out and Yabu and Deuce for Lopes and Paul doesn't work. Also the Clippers are over the first apron, so one would need another team involved. Maybe have to throw in Hart and Bogdanovic, possibly Dadiet and Christie
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Post#1769 » by thebuzzardman » Yesterday 9:49 pm

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Get Brook Lopez when the Clippers tear it down.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/6136/brook-lopez#:~:text=2025%2D2026%20Free%20Agent,dead%20cap%20value%20of%20%248%2C750%2C000.

$8,750,000 - Not sure how they organize a trade.

Doesn't look easy. The Knicks would have to take back as many players as they send out and Yabu and Deuce for Lopes and Paul doesn't work. Also the Clippers are over the first apron, so one would need another team involved. Maybe have to throw in Hart and Bogdanovic, possibly Dadiet and Christie


Yeah, at best there would have to be some Euro rights to make the "2nd player" and even then it seems unlikely. Too bad, he'd be ideal.
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Post#1770 » by spree8 » Yesterday 10:06 pm

NYK: Mitch, Kolek
IND: TJ, Huff

Indy cuts TJ’s longer deal for an expiring in Mitch n young pg in return.



NYK: Yabu, Dadiet
WAS: Cam, Bagley

Toss the Wiz a few 2nd’s for guys who play limited mins and give them a project to take a flier on.. plus it’s two more Frenchies. And they improve the tank..



Maybe Cam can do well here with some fellow Nova guys to mentor him and a chance to play meaningful basketball on a competitive team… same with Bagley who doesn’t look too bad and gives us size at the 4 n can play the 5. Cam gives us another young athletic wing..



Brunson | TJ
Deuce | Clarkson
Mikal | Cam | Shamet | Tosan
OG | Hart | Mo | Jemison
KAT | Huff | Bagley | Huk


That’s much improved depth imo
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Post#1771 » by Iron Mantis » Yesterday 10:45 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
Iron Mantis wrote:What can we get for Mitch in a trade?

A young defensive wing who can hit a 3pt?

I hope we keep him.

I don't want to just let him go for free or give him away for picks. But having two super injury prone guys, both whom you absolutely need to win, is not a recipe for success.

It's like trying to win a championship with Joel embiid and Paul George as your two best players. It's impossible because they both will never be healthy for a finals run.

I would not trade OG unless it's in a package for giannis.


Mitch has a contract situation coming up and his health is super unreliable. He should be moved for a young athletic wing who can do what OG does. This way there's always going to be an OG-like player on the court, raising the team's ceiling.
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Post#1772 » by spree2kawhi » Today 7:49 am

Iron Mantis wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
Iron Mantis wrote:What can we get for Mitch in a trade?

A young defensive wing who can hit a 3pt?

I hope we keep him.

I don't want to just let him go for free or give him away for picks. But having two super injury prone guys, both whom you absolutely need to win, is not a recipe for success.

It's like trying to win a championship with Joel embiid and Paul George as your two best players. It's impossible because they both will never be healthy for a finals run.

I would not trade OG unless it's in a package for giannis.


Mitch has a contract situation coming up and his health is super unreliable. He should be moved for a young athletic wing who can do what OG does. This way there's always going to be an OG-like player on the court, raising the team's ceiling.

I don’t think we’re going to simply find a place that can do what OG does, and Mitch has impressed the hell out of be so far.
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Post#1773 » by spree2kawhi » Today 8:10 am

MrDollarBills wrote:Any interest in Nick Richards?

Sure, but who do you offer?
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Post#1774 » by robillionaire » Today 2:29 pm

Just got off the phone with Leon, the trade hasn’t changed yet, it’s still Mitch and OG for Davis. Pencil it in for late january early February on the off chance all 3 of them aren’t in wheelchairs
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Post#1775 » by Iron Mantis » Today 2:59 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
Iron Mantis wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:I hope we keep him.

I don't want to just let him go for free or give him away for picks. But having two super injury prone guys, both whom you absolutely need to win, is not a recipe for success.

It's like trying to win a championship with Joel embiid and Paul George as your two best players. It's impossible because they both will never be healthy for a finals run.

I would not trade OG unless it's in a package for giannis.


Mitch has a contract situation coming up and his health is super unreliable. He should be moved for a young athletic wing who can do what OG does. This way there's always going to be an OG-like player on the court, raising the team's ceiling.

I don’t think we’re going to simply find a place that can do what OG does, and Mitch has impressed the hell out of be so far.


We're not trying to replace OG ... we're trying to add another OG so we can have two players with his skillset.

Really, OG is not doing anything miraculous.......it's why he isn't an All Star, All NBA defense, or getting DPOY or MVP votes etc. The Raptors readily traded him.

His archetype, however, is PERFECT for the makeup of this Knicks team and substantially raises our ceiling.

He is a role player whose skillet complements our two All-NBA players' skill sets perfectly like a puzzle piece. He is long...plays very good defense, doesn't need the ball, hits spot up 3's, drives occasionally(can't dribble)......cuts and finishes. He will likely never get an All-Star nod, but that doesn't mean he isn't vital for THIS team's success.

Yet, since there's many role players like that in the league, including young ones and up-and-comers.... Leon has to get us another that is being underutilized or their team doesn't want to pay them.

Put a long, athletic defensive wing on this team who can hit the 3 at a respectable clip next to OG(and insurance in case OG is injured)...And when you see the impact it has, you'll forget Mitch ever existed.

You like the lineup of:

Mitch
KAT
OG
Mikal
Brunson

Imagine if it were:

KAT
OG
OG (similar length/skillset)
Mikal
Brunson

The defense would be 2x better and 5-out would still be there.
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Post#1776 » by WaltFrazier » Today 5:44 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
Iron Mantis wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:I hope we keep him.

I don't want to just let him go for free or give him away for picks. But having two super injury prone guys, both whom you absolutely need to win, is not a recipe for success.

It's like trying to win a championship with Joel embiid and Paul George as your two best players. It's impossible because they both will never be healthy for a finals run.

I would not trade OG unless it's in a package for giannis.


Mitch has a contract situation coming up and his health is super unreliable. He should be moved for a young athletic wing who can do what OG does. This way there's always going to be an OG-like player on the court, raising the team's ceiling.

I don’t think we’re going to simply find a place that can do what OG does, and Mitch has impressed the hell out of be so far.


Yeah I'm not sure a "young athletic wing who can do what OG does " exists. If there is one he'd be very expensive to obtain. We already let go Precious wh can at least provide maybe 70-80% of OGs defense, though little of his offense. Still better than Yabu who provides not much at either end
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Post#1777 » by WaltFrazier » Today 5:46 pm

Iron Mantis wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
Iron Mantis wrote:I don't want to just let him go for free or give him away for picks. But having two super injury prone guys, both whom you absolutely need to win, is not a recipe for success.

It's like trying to win a championship with Joel embiid and Paul George as your two best players. It's impossible because they both will never be healthy for a finals run.

I would not trade OG unless it's in a package for giannis.


Mitch has a contract situation coming up and his health is super unreliable. He should be moved for a young athletic wing who can do what OG does. This way there's always going to be an OG-like player on the court, raising the team's ceiling.

I don’t think we’re going to simply find a place that can do what OG does, and Mitch has impressed the hell out of be so far.


We're not trying to replace OG ... we're trying to add another OG so we can have two players with his skillset.

Really, OG is not doing anything miraculous.......it's why he isn't an All Star, All NBA defense, or getting DPOY or MVP votes etc. The Raptors readily traded him.

His archetype, however, is PERFECT for the makeup of this Knicks team and substantially raises our ceiling.

He is a role player whose skillet complements our two All-NBA players' skill sets perfectly like a puzzle piece. He is long...plays very good defense, doesn't need the ball, hits spot up 3's, drives occasionally(can't dribble)......cuts and finishes. He will likely never get an All-Star nod, but that doesn't mean he isn't vital for THIS team's success.

Yet, since there's many role players like that in the league, including young ones and up-and-comers.... Leon has to get us another that is being underutilized or their team doesn't want to pay them.

Put a long, athletic defensive wing on this team who can hit the 3 at a respectable clip next to OG(and insurance in case OG is injured)...And when you see the impact it has, you'll forget Mitch ever existed.

You like the lineup of:

Mitch
KAT
OG
Mikal
Brunson

Imagine if it were:

KAT
OG
OG (similar length/skillset)
Mikal
Brunson

The defense would be 2x better and 5-out would still be there.


The Raptors only traded him for financial reasons, same with Siakam
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Post#1778 » by Juco24 » Today 5:59 pm

robillionaire wrote:Just got off the phone with Leon, the trade hasn’t changed yet, it’s still Mitch and OG for Davis. Pencil it in for late january early February on the off chance all 3 of them aren’t in wheelchairs


Actually makes sense... I've seen enough to say Mitch and Towns just doesn't work. Even a semi healthy Davis, Towns, Hart, Mikal, Brunson --- I think we could probably get DLo as well to serve as backup - maybe costs us 2nd? . Bench: Dlo, Deuce, JC, Yabu, Shamet?
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Post#1779 » by Flaming Mo » Today 6:33 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
Iron Mantis wrote:What can we get for Mitch in a trade?

A young defensive wing who can hit a 3pt?

I hope we keep him.


Yabu + ? + some 2nd rounders for Brook Lopez?


I think Lopez got nothing left in the tank and I'd rather get more athletic and longer on the wing... Saddiq Bey anyone?
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Post#1780 » by Iron Mantis » Today 6:34 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:
Iron Mantis wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:I don’t think we’re going to simply find a place that can do what OG does, and Mitch has impressed the hell out of be so far.


We're not trying to replace OG ... we're trying to add another OG so we can have two players with his skillset.

Really, OG is not doing anything miraculous.......it's why he isn't an All Star, All NBA defense, or getting DPOY or MVP votes etc. The Raptors readily traded him.

His archetype, however, is PERFECT for the makeup of this Knicks team and substantially raises our ceiling.

He is a role player whose skillet complements our two All-NBA players' skill sets perfectly like a puzzle piece. He is long...plays very good defense, doesn't need the ball, hits spot up 3's, drives occasionally(can't dribble)......cuts and finishes. He will likely never get an All-Star nod, but that doesn't mean he isn't vital for THIS team's success.

Yet, since there's many role players like that in the league, including young ones and up-and-comers.... Leon has to get us another that is being underutilized or their team doesn't want to pay them.

Put a long, athletic defensive wing on this team who can hit the 3 at a respectable clip next to OG(and insurance in case OG is injured)...And when you see the impact it has, you'll forget Mitch ever existed.

You like the lineup of:

Mitch
KAT
OG
Mikal
Brunson

Imagine if it were:

KAT
OG
OG (similar length/skillset)
Mikal
Brunson

The defense would be 2x better and 5-out would still be there.


The Raptors only traded him for financial reasons, same with Siakam

I think financial reasons, ala Wolves and KAT, may be oversimplifying it. The Raps wanted to rebuild, get a PG, etc.

Siakam was long in the tooth and they were ready to take the keys to the franchise from him and give them to Barnes; They wanted to rebuild around their young franchise player.

Based on roster needs, they happily paid Quickley like $32 mil per year because they found his skill set to be more valuable than a 3&D role player.

They could readily move on from OG because they didn't feel what he brought to the team was that difficult to replace; if they did they would have paid him.

Were the Raps right or was OG an irreplaceable defensive star? Well they traded OG while they had a losing record with him playing...they "rebuilt" and tanked for one season ....and now without OG they are #2 in the east on a crazy win streak.

The way the Knicks are constructed....any starting caliber 3&D wing at the 4 would level up the team in a similar way. If any teams are underperforming, rebuilding, or whatever, and Leon could get us one in a trade he needs to go for it.
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