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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1461 » by Thaddy » Mon Dec 1, 2025 6:35 am

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Thaddy wrote:I want to pump his value this season and trade him for a superstar. The BI era won't be a happy one in our history, I kind of see that coming.


Wow, sounds like an amazing plan. Not sure why I didn't think of this.

Because you think he's a long term piece we're going to build around.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1462 » by PushDaRock » Mon Dec 1, 2025 6:38 am

Thaddy wrote:
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Thaddy wrote:I want to pump his value this season and trade him for a superstar. The BI era won't be a happy one in our history, I kind of see that coming.


Wow, sounds like an amazing plan. Not sure why I didn't think of this.

Because you think he's a long term piece we're going to build around.


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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1463 » by tsherkin » Mon Dec 1, 2025 7:15 am

Thaddy wrote:I want to pump his value this season and trade him for a superstar.


This likely isn't a valid plan. Ingram's 28 years old, injury-prone and is a known quantity in terms of what we can do. Unless we package him in a deal similar to the disgruntled-Kawhi maneuver (a repeat of which there is no guarantee), there's pretty much no chance we're going to move Ingram for a superstar. He doesn't have that kind of relevance, even if we "pump his value."

I like BI and I'm happy to have him on the team, but if the notion is to try and flip him for a contention-level focal player, you're likely going to be disappointed.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1464 » by TheGeneral99 » Mon Dec 1, 2025 9:16 pm

His next step in his game is offensive awareness, which hopefully coaching staff goes over with him in the film room.

He sometimes is too lackadaisical and dribbles high with the ball at the top of the key which allows him to get stripped easily. He doesn't have a great sense of the the help defender coming at him from behind and poking the ball out.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1465 » by sidsid » Mon Dec 1, 2025 9:31 pm

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Thaddy wrote:I want to pump his value this season and trade him for a superstar.


This likely isn't a valid plan. Ingram's 28 years old, injury-prone and is a known quantity in terms of what we can do. Unless we package him in a deal similar to the disgruntled-Kawhi maneuver (a repeat of which there is no guarantee), there's pretty much no chance we're going to move Ingram for a superstar. He doesn't have that kind of relevance, even if we "pump his value."

I like BI and I'm happy to have him on the team, but if the notion is to try and flip him for a contention-level focal player, you're likely going to be disappointed.


This is pretty much the big game plan the FO has (no tanking, no talent cycling trades for draft assets). It's just Kawhi trade redux. He's basically the carbon-copy of DeRozan for this era. Wait to see if SGA wants to come home. If not, there's always next year.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1466 » by tsherkin » Mon Dec 1, 2025 9:33 pm

sidsid wrote:This is pretty much the big game plan the FO has (no tanking, no talent cycling trades for draft assets). It's just Kawhi trade redux. He's basically the carbon-copy of DeRozan for this era. Wait to see if SGA wants to come home. If not, there's always next year.


Sure, but it's a Hail Mary, so I'm not holding my breath. Right now, we just need to try and be as good as we can with the guys we have, while looking for any sort of reasonable upgrade/acquisition options which present themselves along the way. We likely won't be able to rush things. This team is pretty good when healthy, so we'll see how it goes.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1467 » by Madvillainy2004 » Mon Dec 1, 2025 10:41 pm

I hope Ingram was watching film today lol his defense being poor (minus the occasional block) is whatever to me but he needs to cut down the TO's and increase his playmaking.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1468 » by Thaddy » Tue Dec 2, 2025 4:12 am

Madvillainy2004 wrote:I hope Ingram was watching film today lol his defense being poor (minus the occasional block) is whatever to me but he needs to cut down the TO's and increase his playmaking.

He's too thin and frail to play hardcore defense. He is someone I would put up as a candidate to get exposed in the playoffs. He appears to be a very short term piece, he's essentially a better scoring but worse defending Siakam. The trade off we made between the two doesn't make sense at all. Especially if none of the other pieces that came through via Ingram amount to nothing but fringe role players.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1469 » by Psubs » Wed Dec 3, 2025 2:54 pm

I feel like the team used to needed to add Ingram to reign in RJ Barrett, though I now it's a vice versa situation. I think we are seeing that without Barrett, Ingram is taking a few more mid-range shots that we'd like to see. The 20-20-20-20 offense of IQ-RJ-BI-SB thrives together. The Four-Score offense!
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1470 » by everdiso » Wed Dec 3, 2025 7:30 pm

Chucker BI is not a player i like watching.

rein him in, coaches. get him back to how he started.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1471 » by Psubs » Wed Dec 3, 2025 8:22 pm

everdiso wrote:Chucker BI is not a player i like watching.

rein him in, coaches. get him back to how he started.


RJ Barrett needs to be an option. When either are missing the other tries to do too much.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1472 » by HiJiNX » Wed Dec 3, 2025 9:17 pm

I’m open to trading Ingram if the right deal arises. But mostly, I think the team needs to relegate him to being the second option.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1473 » by tsherkin » Thu Dec 4, 2025 1:23 am

HiJiNX wrote:I’m open to trading Ingram if the right deal arises. But mostly, I think the team needs to relegate him to being the second option.


I think we just need to rein him in a little, because he's overshooting and tiring himself out trying to iso every possession these past couple games. We were all thrilled with him for a long stretch, we shouldn't let this influence us TOO much unless it continues when RJ is back.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1474 » by CPT » Thu Dec 4, 2025 1:38 am

HiJiNX wrote:I’m open to trading Ingram if the right deal arises. But mostly, I think the team needs to relegate him to being the second option.


I think he's okay as the first option. He's not okay as the only option.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1475 » by HiJiNX » Thu Dec 4, 2025 4:09 am

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HiJiNX wrote:I’m open to trading Ingram if the right deal arises. But mostly, I think the team needs to relegate him to being the second option.


I think he's okay as the first option. He's not okay as the only option.

Sorry I mean he’s the best iso scorer on the team, in that respect yes he’s the first option.

But he shouldn’t be the main guy trusted to create advantages. That’s Barnes.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1476 » by Johnny Bball » Thu Dec 4, 2025 11:08 am

BI needs to sit out and fix/heal whatever is wrong with his ankle. Seems to me that although its not serious, its enough to seriously impact his game.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1477 » by manjusaka » Thu Dec 4, 2025 11:33 am

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HiJiNX wrote:I’m open to trading Ingram if the right deal arises. But mostly, I think the team needs to relegate him to being the second option.


I think he's okay as the first option. He's not okay as the only option.

Sorry I mean he’s the best iso scorer on the team, in that respect yes he’s the first option.

But he shouldn’t be the main guy trusted to create advantages. That’s Barnes.


We probably need to get him into better triple threat positions to score, not dump to ball to him and create something all by himself.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1478 » by HiJiNX » Thu Dec 4, 2025 3:51 pm

manjusaka wrote:
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I think he's okay as the first option. He's not okay as the only option.

Sorry I mean he’s the best iso scorer on the team, in that respect yes he’s the first option.

But he shouldn’t be the main guy trusted to create advantages. That’s Barnes.


We probably need to get him into better triple threat positions to score, not dump to ball to him and create something all by himself.

He’s definitely best catching the ball off a screen. The static ISOs feel like they’ve been less successful for him.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1479 » by Raps in 4 » Thu Dec 4, 2025 4:05 pm

BI is not a fun player to watch. He was always going to be a stopgap solution. We need an actual 1A scorer. How we acquire him, I don't know.
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1480 » by dTox » Thu Dec 4, 2025 8:54 pm

We have to remember that even during BI's peak years, he was no more than a 23 ppg player, expecting anything beyond this and you are setting yourself up for disappointment, he is not a consistent go-to scorer. He's a nice player to keep while we try to keep our heads above water, until we find that go-to scorer.
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