Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page

[Mr B]

What do you think are the chances that Dirk himself gets hired as the long term GM of the Mavs?

With Cuban in charge of hiring the new GM don’t rule it out.

[Mavrelous]

What do you think are the chances that Dirk himself gets hired as the long term GM of the Mavs?

With Cuban in charge of hiring the new GM don’t rule it out.

I don't want it, no reason to spoil a great career, if he has few miatakes as a GM.

[daoneandonly]

What do you think are the chances that Dirk himself gets hired as the long term GM of the Mavs?

With Cuban in charge of hiring the new GM don’t rule it out.

I don't want it, no reason to spoil a great career, if he has few miatakes as a GM.

Agreed. Love Dirk, but best Mav ever doesnt mean he'd be a good GM. He was said to be a big part of why the Mavs traded for Rondo and said Giannis was too skinny so didnt want the Mavs to take him. Incredible player, awesome guy by all accounts, but probably doesnt have the chops to be a GM

[arkuo]

What do you think are the chances that Dirk himself gets hired as the long term GM of the Mavs?

With Cuban in charge of hiring the new GM don’t rule it out.

I don't want it, no reason to spoil a great career, if he has few miatakes as a GM.

Same thoughts. On one hand you'd get a decent shot at getting Luka back in 2028 - at least being able to secure a meeting with his camp. On the other hand, he could end up like Joe Dumars as GM. Present day Joe Dumars.

[Mr B]

With Cuban in charge of hiring the new GM don’t rule it out.

I don't want it, no reason to spoil a great career, if he has few miatakes as a GM.

Agreed. Love Dirk, but best Mav ever doesnt mean he'd be a good GM. He was said to be a big part of why the Mavs traded for Rondo and said Giannis was too skinny so didnt want the Mavs to take him. Incredible player, awesome guy by all accounts, but probably doesnt have the chops to be a GM

I saw Dirk say in a recent interview that when he retired he thought he would transition to the Mavs front office and eventually be the GM. He didn’t get the opportunity he thought he would though (likely because of Nico) and now that he’s had time to see the amount of time you have to put in to be a good GM he’d rather do something else related to the NBA.

[Mavrelous]

I don't want it, no reason to spoil a great career, if he has few miatakes as a GM.

Agreed. Love Dirk, but best Mav ever doesnt mean he'd be a good GM. He was said to be a big part of why the Mavs traded for Rondo and said Giannis was too skinny so didnt want the Mavs to take him. Incredible player, awesome guy by all accounts, but probably doesnt have the chops to be a GM

I saw Dirk say in a recent interview that when he retired he thought he would transition to the Mavs front office and eventually be the GM. He didn’t get the opportunity he thought he would though (likely because of Nico) and now that he’s had time to see the amount of time you have to put in to be a good GM he’d rather do something else related to the NBA.

Didn't see that, if he wants it, then he should have it.
I think he's doing amazing job on Amazon Prime, really raised the quality compared to ESPN and TNT.

[Teffer10]

The thing is if you wait till AD has played some good games he will be injured again and then there is 0 trade value anymore.
I don't even want anything back. Just get rid of him. There will be no relevant 1st involved anyway

This 100%!!!

Mavs fans should cringe every minute AD is on the floor. He is one minor incident away from totally destroying this franchise for the next 5 years.

Get what you can for him now or you will regret it later.

[daoneandonly]

The thing is if you wait till AD has played some good games he will be injured again and then there is 0 trade value anymore.
I don't even want anything back. Just get rid of him. There will be no relevant 1st involved anyway

This 100%!!!

Mavs fans should cringe every minute AD is on the floor. He is one minor incident away from totally destroying this franchise for the next 5 years.

Get what you can for him now or you will regret it later.

Couldn't agree more with you guys. Get this guy out of here, the time to part ways was the day after the past summer's draft lottery. AD for expirings and picks is ideal, if you can get a serviceable player, even better. But just get rid of him please.

[Mr B]

For those interested

[Teffer10]

For those interested

I understand the love for Kyrie and to some degree AD, but I don't recall any Mav in history draining more from this franchise financially than those 2 individually.

We are getting virtually nothing in return this season for our near 100 million dollar investment in those 2.

[Maverick41]

I know most of us want AD gone, but hypothetically if the FO wants to keep AD (particularly because of his depressed trade value), it would make sense to move Gafford or Lively so that AD plays C and the leftover backs him up. What about something like this:

DAL receives: Josh Green + FRP DAL 27 FRP
CHA receives: Gafford + FRP 28 FRP (worse of OKC and DAL)

DAL gets the coveted DAL 27 FRP back. Daoneandonly probably goes nuts since Green would be back but he's really just there for filler.

CHA gets a good C in Gaff that fits very well with their guards. They get off of Green's bad contract. They also still get a FRP back in exchange for the 27 FRP, albeit, it wil be OKC's pick which will be end of the 1st round in all likelyhood. In this trade, CHA bets on DAL keeping AD, a healthy Kyrie, and a sophomore leap from Flagg next year making DAL a playoff team in 27 and therefore the 27 FRP not being as valuable.

[Super Cooper]

I know most of us want AD gone, but hypothetically if the FO wants to keep AD (particularly because of his depressed trade value), it would make sense to move Gafford or Lively so that AD plays C and the leftover backs him up. What about something like this:

DAL receives: Josh Green + FRP DAL 27 FRP
CHA receives: Gafford + FRP 28 FRP (worse of OKC and DAL)

DAL gets the coveted DAL 27 FRP back. Daoneandonly probably goes nuts since Green would be back but he's really just there for filler.

CHA gets a good C in Gaff that fits very well with their guards. They get off of Green's bad contract. They also still get a FRP back in exchange for the 27 FRP, albeit, it wil be OKC's pick which will be end of the 1st round in all likelyhood. In this trade, CHA bets on DAL keeping AD, a healthy Kyrie, and a sophomore leap from Flagg next year making DAL a playoff team in 27 and therefore the 27 FRP not being as valuable.

So basically Gaff for a FRP swap of years? And we have to pay Street Clothes 3.0 $28.2 over the next 2 seasons? What is your logic behind this?

IMO, Gaff is worth MUCH more than that.

[Super Cooper]

I don't understand why posters on this board want to give Gaff away. He's coveted by many teams in the league. He's productive on both ends of the court and is on a very sensible contract. I realize that if AD stays and plays C, Gaff is a luxury.... but that diminishes his value none.

[Maverick41]

So basically Gaff for a FRP swap of years? And we have to pay Street Clothes 3.0 $28.2 over the next 2 seasons? What is your logic behind this?

IMO, Gaff is worth MUCH more than that.

28 FRP will almost certainly be a pick between 25-30 since OKC has the favorable swap. It's pretty much guaranteed to be a bad FRP since I don't see OKC slowing down for a while. If we get the full 27 FRP back, it technically gives us a chance to tank for another season or at least get a pick in a better range. It gives a potential out if we suck next year. Note, without this trade, if we are a bad team again next year, we're completely screwed unless we luck out in the lottery since our pick is only top 2 protected.

Also I don't "want to give Gaff away." He's a solid player that I like but if you want to get something of value, you have to give something of value.

[Teffer10]

This is the time we should be tearing the whole thing down gathering as many picks and young promising players as possible and what they end up with should give it all they have to win.

[Super Cooper]

So basically Gaff for a FRP swap of years? And we have to pay Street Clothes 3.0 $28.2 over the next 2 seasons? What is your logic behind this?

IMO, Gaff is worth MUCH more than that.

28 FRP will almost certainly be a pick between 25-30 since OKC has the favorable swap. It's pretty much guaranteed to be a bad FRP since I don't see OKC slowing down for a while. If we get the full 27 FRP back, it technically gives us a chance to tank for another season or at least get a pick in a better range. It gives a potential out if we suck next year. Note, without this trade, if we are a bad team again next year, we're completely screwed unless we luck out in the lottery since our pick is only top 2 protected.

Also I don't "want to give Gaff away." He's a solid player that I like but if you want to get something of value, you have to give something of value.

Sorry, I just don’t understand that logic at all. Paying JHreen $28.2m to be in street clothes the next 2 years? Do you understand what a negative value that is?

[Mavrelous]

I know most of us want AD gone, but hypothetically if the FO wants to keep AD (particularly because of his depressed trade value), it would make sense to move Gafford or Lively so that AD plays C and the leftover backs him up. What about something like this:

DAL receives: Josh Green + FRP DAL 27 FRP
CHA receives: Gafford + FRP 28 FRP (worse of OKC and DAL)

DAL gets the coveted DAL 27 FRP back. Daoneandonly probably goes nuts since Green would be back but he's really just there for filler.

CHA gets a good C in Gaff that fits very well with their guards. They get off of Green's bad contract. They also still get a FRP back in exchange for the 27 FRP, albeit, it wil be OKC's pick which will be end of the 1st round in all likelyhood. In this trade, CHA bets on DAL keeping AD, a healthy Kyrie, and a sophomore leap from Flagg next year making DAL a playoff team in 27 and therefore the 27 FRP not being as valuable.

Doubt CHO does it, but I would pull the trigger.
Another issue with this, it freezes LAL 1st, it can't be traded until 28 (unless Mavs get a new FRP)

[Mavrelous]

I don't understand why posters on this board want to give Gaff away. He's coveted by many teams in the league. He's productive on both ends of the court and is on a very sensible contract. I realize that if AD stays and plays C, Gaff is a luxury.... but that diminishes his value none.

We'll see how true this is, I dom't assign high value to Gafford personally, and I doubt he is that coveted around the league.

[Maverick41]

Sorry, I just don’t understand that logic at all. Paying JHreen $28.2m to be in street clothes the next 2 years? Do you understand what a negative value that is?

Don't know how to explain it clearer then I already did. I don't disagree that Green's negative value. There's just no way we're getting back the 27 FRP without giving up value. I value the versatility of having full control of the 27 FRP. It could be a useless trade that makes us worse for nothing, or it could be a godsend to have control of the pick if we suck next year.

We can agree to disagree.

[Maverick41]

Doubt CHO does it, but I would pull the trigger.
Another issue with this, it freezes LAL 1st, it can't be traded until 28 (unless Mavs get a new FRP)

That freezing is an excellent point that I did not consider. Good looking out.

I do think CHA is the more likely to say no this as well. If I'm them, I would be asking for more. Their backup, Diabate, actually reminds me of a younger Gafford.