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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1881 » by stuporman » Yesterday 11:49 pm

RHODEY wrote:
stuporman wrote:I doubt that OKC would want to disrupt what they have going on there to risk it on Giannis but they have to be concerned that another west rival will get it done.

The Knicks being in the convo is because Knicks for clicks is still a thing and probably always will but I have a hard time seeing them cough up what it would take to get him.

If it was KAT, OG and a youngin or two plus whatever pick trash they still have left lying around, yea, maybe I could see Leon doing that but I don't see the Bucks doing it.

Let's move on already!
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Oh I agree but I'm not proposing a trade I would do, I'm just of the mind that Leon would probably do it. I think it probably would be a terrible idea considering the cost to get him.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1882 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Yesterday 11:59 pm

ctorres wrote:
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Trade Yabu, Deuce and Shamet for Kyle Anderson and sign, say exactly, Malik Beasley and Victor Oladipo on 27th December.


not Deuce!!! Dadiet

More on the Nets guys....

Ziaire Williams
- 6'10 wing with a 6'10 wingspan
- 5th year player at 24 years old with two years of playoff experience back in Memphis
- Not a good 3pt shooter, but he CAN shoot the three
- The best 3&D wing they have

Tyrese Martin
- 6'6 wing with a 6'8 wingspan
- 26 year old player, a 2nd round pick from 2022
- Limited winning experience his rookie season in Atlanta on a .500 team
- Mixed reviews on his defense
- Average 3pt shooter, but he can definitely make them

Jalen Wilson
- 6'6 wing with a 6'8 wingspan
- 25 year old player, a 2nd round pick from 2023
- No winning experience, has only played with Nets
- Mixed reviews on his defense
- Also an average 3pt shooter, but can definitely make them

Kyle Anderson on paper to me makes the most sense. He has two years of experience playing with KAT. An extensive playoff resume with San Antonio, Memphis, and Minnesota.

He has never shot better than 33% from three in the playoffs, so he has that going against him. But none of the Nets guys have his resume.

Every day I'm looking at the all 30 teams rosters and their player salaries. There has to be more we can do with this team than just dream about getting Giannis.

Yes. I understand why you want to trade Dadiet and not Deuce. However, trading Deuce leaves you substantially closer to having the pick of the unsigned FAs. If you trade Dadiet in that kind of deal you have to wait until February to start getting into the FA pool. The attractive thing about making a trade for Anderson wouldn't necessarily be Anderson himself, it would be which unsigned FAs you could bring into the roster.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1883 » by spree8 » Today 12:00 am

stuporman wrote:
sol537 wrote:
stuporman wrote:I doubt that OKC would want to disrupt what they have going on there to risk it on Giannis but they have to be concerned that another west rival will get it done.

The Knicks being in the convo is because Knicks for clicks is still a thing and probably always will but I have a hard time seeing them cough up what it would take to get him.

If it was KAT, OG and a youngin or two plus whatever pick trash they still have left lying around, yea, maybe I could see Leon doing that but I don't see the Bucks doing it.

Let's move on already!
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The reason I'm not moving on is because 1) the Shams piece where (only) NY-MIL actually had talks in the summer, 2) The Giannis piece where he's outta there by this deadline or this summer and 3) the Leon Rose piece where you know KAT wasn't the final piece of this phase of his grand plan but a guy like Giannis probably is... where there's smoke, there's usually fire.

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The guy just did something pretty noteworthy and has insiders around the league buzzing, after the summer talks we had with them and the Shams report of him wanting to be here, his team not even being play-in level and losing to the Wizards.. how on earth do you think now of all times is the right time to ask people to shut up and move on? Cmon
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1884 » by sol537 » Today 12:03 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
ctorres wrote:What are trades you all would make if you could only trade among the following players:

Guerschon Yabusele ($5.5m)
Pacome Dadiet ($2.8m)
Jordan Clarkson ($2.3m)
Landry Shamet ($2.3m)
Tyler Kolek ($2.2m)
Ariel Hukporti ($2.0m)
Mohamed Diawara ($1.3m)

Basically, no one would get traded among our 7 best players:

Jalen Brunson
Karl-Anthony Towns
Mikal Bridges
OG Anunoby
Josh Hart
Mitchell Robinson
Miles McBride

This is the focus. Not some big swing that would gut that 7 man core. My question is can trading two of that bottom 7/non core group net the right big forward who would put us over the top. One tweak is all we need. And that tweak should have been Yabusele if he wasn't such a busy.


We got Yabu's expiring salary + Dadiet + the WAS 1st to work with. It's not nothing and we can sweeten the pie with 2nd rounders and cash. I'm guessing we'll make one trade for a legit 8th man type 6'8 or so 3&D guy. Think Josh Hart mid-season trade... buy low type move.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1885 » by stuporman » Today 12:30 am

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stuporman wrote:
sol537 wrote:
The reason I'm not moving on is because 1) the Shams piece where (only) NY-MIL actually had talks in the summer, 2) The Giannis piece where he's outta there by this deadline or this summer and 3) the Leon Rose piece where you know KAT wasn't the final piece of this phase of his grand plan but a guy like Giannis probably is... where there's smoke, there's usually fire.

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The guy just did something pretty noteworthy and has insiders around the league buzzing, after the summer talks we had with them and the Shams report of him wanting to be here, his team not even being play-in level and losing to the Wizards.. how on earth do you think now of all times is the right time to ask people to shut up and move on? Cmon

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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1886 » by spree8 » Today 12:36 am

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spree8 wrote:
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The guy just did something pretty noteworthy and has insiders around the league buzzing, after the summer talks we had with them and the Shams report of him wanting to be here, his team not even being play-in level and losing to the Wizards.. how on earth do you think now of all times is the right time to ask people to shut up and move on? Cmon

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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1887 » by ctorres » Today 1:07 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
ctorres wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
Trade Yabu, Deuce and Shamet for Kyle Anderson and sign, say exactly, Malik Beasley and Victor Oladipo on 27th December.


not Deuce!!! Dadiet

More on the Nets guys....

Ziaire Williams
- 6'10 wing with a 6'10 wingspan
- 5th year player at 24 years old with two years of playoff experience back in Memphis
- Not a good 3pt shooter, but he CAN shoot the three
- The best 3&D wing they have

Tyrese Martin
- 6'6 wing with a 6'8 wingspan
- 26 year old player, a 2nd round pick from 2022
- Limited winning experience his rookie season in Atlanta on a .500 team
- Mixed reviews on his defense
- Average 3pt shooter, but he can definitely make them

Jalen Wilson
- 6'6 wing with a 6'8 wingspan
- 25 year old player, a 2nd round pick from 2023
- No winning experience, has only played with Nets
- Mixed reviews on his defense
- Also an average 3pt shooter, but can definitely make them

Kyle Anderson on paper to me makes the most sense. He has two years of experience playing with KAT. An extensive playoff resume with San Antonio, Memphis, and Minnesota.

He has never shot better than 33% from three in the playoffs, so he has that going against him. But none of the Nets guys have his resume.

Every day I'm looking at the all 30 teams rosters and their player salaries. There has to be more we can do with this team than just dream about getting Giannis.

Yes. I understand why you want to trade Dadiet and not Deuce. However, trading Deuce leaves you substantially closer to having the pick of the unsigned FAs. If you trade Dadiet in that kind of deal you have to wait until February to start getting into the FA pool. The attractive thing about making a trade for Anderson wouldn't necessarily be Anderson himself, it would be which unsigned FAs you could bring into the roster.


Deuce is waaay better than any unsigned FA
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1888 » by ctorres » Today 1:30 am

sol537 wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
ctorres wrote:What are trades you all would make if you could only trade among the following players:

Guerschon Yabusele ($5.5m)
Pacome Dadiet ($2.8m)
Jordan Clarkson ($2.3m)
Landry Shamet ($2.3m)
Tyler Kolek ($2.2m)
Ariel Hukporti ($2.0m)
Mohamed Diawara ($1.3m)

Basically, no one would get traded among our 7 best players:

Jalen Brunson
Karl-Anthony Towns
Mikal Bridges
OG Anunoby
Josh Hart
Mitchell Robinson
Miles McBride

This is the focus. Not some big swing that would gut that 7 man core. My question is can trading two of that bottom 7/non core group net the right big forward who would put us over the top. One tweak is all we need. And that tweak should have been Yabusele if he wasn't such a busy.


We got Yabu's expiring salary + Dadiet + the WAS 1st to work with. It's not nothing and we can sweeten the pie with 2nd rounders and cash. I'm guessing we'll make one trade for a legit 8th man type 6'8 or so 3&D guy. Think Josh Hart mid-season trade... buy low type move.


The issue I am seeing on this forum is that a lot of us are on the same page when it comes to the good trade ideas, but no one is coming up with actual names of players

We all want a 6'8 3&D guy in a mid-season trade

Everyone is having trouble coming up with names of players and trades that actually work with all of these apron rules and no teams being under the cap

I have brought up names we can get without giving up any of our 7 core players! Someone name others!

I know melo brought up Herb Jones, but we likely would need to trade a core player for him

The worry is that we have to give up one of our core players to improve our team

I do not want to!

I feel we can win a championship with our 7 core guys

But we need just 1 or 2 more. We need tall, longer, athletic 3&D guys to beat Orlando, Detroit, maybe Toronto, maybe Chicago, maybe Miami, OKC, Houston, Denver, San Antonio in a 7 game series.

But we also need our 7 core guys because they come with their own set of advantages.

Literally just 1 more guy and we would be golden

It is probably part of the reason why we wanted Ben Simmons but he was unwilling to sign for the minimum
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1889 » by Kidknick! » Today 2:26 am

Get us Dillon Brooks. He's the final piece. Hart for Brooks baby.
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Post#1890 » by RHODEY » Today 3:58 am

stuporman wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
stuporman wrote:I doubt that OKC would want to disrupt what they have going on there to risk it on Giannis but they have to be concerned that another west rival will get it done.

The Knicks being in the convo is because Knicks for clicks is still a thing and probably always will but I have a hard time seeing them cough up what it would take to get him.

If it was KAT, OG and a youngin or two plus whatever pick trash they still have left lying around, yea, maybe I could see Leon doing that but I don't see the Bucks doing it.

Let's move on already!
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Kat and OG too much.


Oh I agree but I'm not proposing a trade I would do, I'm just of the mind that Leon would probably do it. I think it probably would be a terrible idea considering the cost to get him.


Leon is doesn't strike me as the type to make a trade that makes us worse. Case in point giving up the farm for Donovan Mitchel.
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Post#1891 » by ctorres » Today 4:05 am

I guess I ruffled some feathers

it would take a lot of balls to trade Jalen Brunson for Giannis

I don't think the Bucks would do it. A Jalen and Josh package for Giannis definitely works under the cap tho
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1892 » by spree8 » Today 5:49 am

ctorres wrote:
sol537 wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:This is the focus. Not some big swing that would gut that 7 man core. My question is can trading two of that bottom 7/non core group net the right big forward who would put us over the top. One tweak is all we need. And that tweak should have been Yabusele if he wasn't such a busy.


We got Yabu's expiring salary + Dadiet + the WAS 1st to work with. It's not nothing and we can sweeten the pie with 2nd rounders and cash. I'm guessing we'll make one trade for a legit 8th man type 6'8 or so 3&D guy. Think Josh Hart mid-season trade... buy low type move.


The issue I am seeing on this forum is that a lot of us are on the same page when it comes to the good trade ideas, but no one is coming up with actual names of players

We all want a 6'8 3&D guy in a mid-season trade

Everyone is having trouble coming up with names of players and trades that actually work with all of these apron rules and no teams being under the cap

I have brought up names we can get without giving up any of our 7 core players! Someone name others!

I know melo brought up Herb Jones, but we likely would need to trade a core player for him

The worry is that we have to give up one of our core players to improve our team

I do not want to!

I feel we can win a championship with our 7 core guys

But we need just 1 or 2 more. We need tall, longer, athletic 3&D guys to beat Orlando, Detroit, maybe Toronto, maybe Chicago, maybe Miami, OKC, Houston, Denver, San Antonio in a 7 game series.

But we also need our 7 core guys because they come with their own set of advantages.

Literally just 1 more guy and we would be golden

It is probably part of the reason why we wanted Ben Simmons but he was unwilling to sign for the minimum



Bey could be an option.. I’d luv to get Alvarado in the deal too, but the numbers would require us to ship out like 4 players for 2… it’s tough. Like Kolek, Yabu, Dadiet, and Huk. Dunno how much money we’d have left to fill the extra roster spots afterwards tho…

I wouldn’t mind Batum but dunno if the Clips would be interested in Yabu.. I wouldn’t mind expanding that trade to include Mitch n Brook.. we’d lose rebounding but gain spacing.

Cam Whitmore is another name I’d look into if I was Leon..

Unless we’re talking Giannis, I think the core guys should stay and Mitch (because of the health/availability and contract), Yabu, Clarkson, Kolek, Dadiet, and Huk should all be on the block.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1893 » by spree8 » Today 8:33 am

NYK: Mitch, Clarkson, Kolek
LAC: Cp3, BroLo, Batum


Brunson | Cp3
Duece | Shamet | Dadiet
Mikal | Hart | Tosan
OG | Batum | Diawara
KAT | BroLo | Huk
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Post#1894 » by The KnicksFix » Today 9:13 am

Pick up CP3 on the cheap
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Post#1895 » by Flaming Mo » Today 9:33 am

spree8 wrote:
ctorres wrote:
sol537 wrote:
We got Yabu's expiring salary + Dadiet + the WAS 1st to work with. It's not nothing and we can sweeten the pie with 2nd rounders and cash. I'm guessing we'll make one trade for a legit 8th man type 6'8 or so 3&D guy. Think Josh Hart mid-season trade... buy low type move.


The issue I am seeing on this forum is that a lot of us are on the same page when it comes to the good trade ideas, but no one is coming up with actual names of players

We all want a 6'8 3&D guy in a mid-season trade

Everyone is having trouble coming up with names of players and trades that actually work with all of these apron rules and no teams being under the cap

I have brought up names we can get without giving up any of our 7 core players! Someone name others!

I know melo brought up Herb Jones, but we likely would need to trade a core player for him

The worry is that we have to give up one of our core players to improve our team

I do not want to!

I feel we can win a championship with our 7 core guys

But we need just 1 or 2 more. We need tall, longer, athletic 3&D guys to beat Orlando, Detroit, maybe Toronto, maybe Chicago, maybe Miami, OKC, Houston, Denver, San Antonio in a 7 game series.

But we also need our 7 core guys because they come with their own set of advantages.

Literally just 1 more guy and we would be golden

It is probably part of the reason why we wanted Ben Simmons but he was unwilling to sign for the minimum



Bey could be an option.. I’d luv to get Alvarado in the deal too, but the numbers would require us to ship out like 4 players for 2… it’s tough. Like Kolek, Yabu, Dadiet, and Huk. Dunno how much money we’d have left to fill the extra roster spots afterwards tho…

I wouldn’t mind Batum but dunno if the Clips would be interested in Yabu.. I wouldn’t mind expanding that trade to include Mitch n Brook.. we’d lose rebounding but gain spacing.

Cam Whitmore is another name I’d look into if I was Leon..

Unless we’re talking Giannis, I think the core guys should stay and Mitch (because of the health/availability and contract), Yabu, Clarkson, Kolek, Dadiet, and Huk should all be on the block.


I think Brook is done, he cannot move in space anymore. Love Whitmore's potential but he is to young/raw to help right now, even though we have a pretty set structure of veterans around him that could help him channel his talent. Would love Bey but no to Alvarado, we got enough small guards even if he is a strong defender. As far as shipping out 4 guys all the names you mentioned basically look like they would get no playoff minutes at all so it really doesn't hurt much. I would like to see Brown try to develop Hukporti and Diawara but that's a longshot aswell.

Naji Marshall in Dallas could be interesting but they are getting back on track maybe, you could see if the Suns are giving up on Ryan Dunn (he would have been perfect in that Kolek draft) or maybe ask what Portland is doing with their 52 long wings. But in the end these type of players are at a premium right now and hard to get. No wonder why Mikal and OG cost so much.
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Post#1896 » by Juco24 » Today 10:50 am

CP3 is getting waived. Maybe, just maybe
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Post#1897 » by pieguyxx » Today 11:26 am

If Knicks can pick up Chris Paul and do
Yabu+WSH pick+cash for Whitmore theyd be in a good place I think
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Post#1898 » by NiceLikeChrist » Today 12:02 pm

ctorres wrote:I guess I ruffled some feathers

it would take a lot of balls to trade Jalen Brunson for Giannis

I don't think the Bucks would do it. A Jalen and Josh package for Giannis definitely works under the cap tho

I’m not against trading Brunson as long as it makes us better. I don’t like that we gave him untouchable status so quickly when we know how deeply flawed undersized score first PGs are

We will be compensating for Brunson or KAT or both as long as they are here. We don’t have a two way star like other teams
NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?

so many people are going to eat their words about randle
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Post#1899 » by Signature NYK » Today 12:53 pm

I think we end up with Giannis in a 3 teamer

KAT + Hart + Mitch + Kolek + Dadiet + Was 1st to Mil
Giannis + Turner + Brook Lopez + Greek Bros to NY
Yabu + Diawara to LAC

Giannis will end up forcing Milwaukees hand to get him to where he wants to govthe fake that this heating up two weeks away from the Dec date where recently signed players can be moved is telling to me.

Turners CAA and his contract and age means his value isn't going to get you much on the trade market. I think the Bucks will want off that deal if they are trading Giannis (they will also likely want off Kuzmas deal but f that lol)

We'd also have some extra 2nd apron space to sign some folk...

Sign Malik Beasley to the vet min (**** it we all in now... Pun intended)
Sign Trey Lyles to the vet min he overseas rn think

Turner/Brook
Giannis/OG/Lyles
OG/Mikal/Beasley
Mikal/Deuce/Beasley/Shamet
Brunson/Clarkson

We'd be 10-11 deep and we'd be getting insane defense around Brunson and insane shooting around Giannis

Can go small with Giannis at the 5 and Deuce at the 2 for some lineups.

Would suck to see Hart go.. but like Coach Brown said this off-season when asked about Giannis "I ain't trading my wings" he was referring to Mikal and OG when he said that.Image

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