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Post#881 » by ReggiesKnicks » Yesterday 1:32 am

SkyHook wrote:With the reporting that the apron era has teams far less willing to move a bevy of picks for a superstar, are we going to see fewer blockbuster deals for a while until expectations reset?


You can answer that, can't you?
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Post#882 » by Devilanche » Yesterday 2:05 am

Any chance Bucks keep Giannis this season , change coach and do some minor trade ?
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Post#883 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Yesterday 2:34 am

Devilanche wrote:Any chance Bucks keep Giannis this season , change coach and do some minor trade ?

I don’t think a minor trade gets it done. Their salaries make it hard to put something together. Think it comes down to whether or not their keep their 2031 first or not
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Post#884 » by ReggiesKnicks » Yesterday 2:47 am

Devilanche wrote:Any chance Bucks keep Giannis this season , change coach and do some minor trade ?


Definitely. And you have a chance to drive to your local gas station, buy a powerball, and win life changing money.
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Post#885 » by Devilanche » Yesterday 4:18 am

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
Devilanche wrote:Any chance Bucks keep Giannis this season , change coach and do some minor trade ?

I don’t think a minor trade gets it done. Their salaries make it hard to put something together. Think it comes down to whether or not their keep their 2031 first or not

Yea part of the reason I considered an offseason trade to be possible is that salary matching could be tougher in season.

Minor trades as I suppose bucks will protect that tradable first to some degree rather than unprotect it.
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Post#886 » by brackdan70 » Yesterday 3:58 pm

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Devilanche wrote:Any chance Bucks keep Giannis this season , change coach and do some minor trade ?

I don’t think a minor trade gets it done. Their salaries make it hard to put something together. Think it comes down to whether or not their keep their 2031 first or not

Agree. Minor trades and signings can’t fix the bucks.
They do have some decent players, salary ballast, and with their 2031 pick they could make a medium trade. It doesn’t take a star , but takes the right guy to fit with Giannis.
Coaching change really seems necessary.
Jordan Walsh goes top 10 in a 2023 redraft.
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Post#887 » by shangrila » Yesterday 9:47 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
SkyHook wrote:With the reporting that the apron era has teams far less willing to move a bevy of picks for a superstar, are we going to see fewer blockbuster deals for a while until expectations reset?


You can answer that, can't you?

Yeah, I don't really get that report. We've seen in recent years both the Bane and Bridges deals that are basically "everything and the kitchen sink".

Although I could maybe see a world where teams are slightly more willing to do that kind of deal for a final piece like the Magic and Knicks thought those guys would be, than for actual bonafide stars since you don't want to have only that guy and little else.
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Post#888 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Yesterday 10:00 pm

SkyHook wrote:With the reporting that the apron era has teams far less willing to move a bevy of picks for a superstar, are we going to see fewer blockbuster deals for a while until expectations reset?

Think removing the 125 percent match rule made a lot of deals hard to match money.

Use to be able to generate some value in a super start deal by clearing up the books a bit.

Then apron rules have made teams think twice about going all in financially.

Overall, it’s harder for teams to clear the books financially like they use to.
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Post#889 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Yesterday 10:04 pm

shangrila wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
SkyHook wrote:With the reporting that the apron era has teams far less willing to move a bevy of picks for a superstar, are we going to see fewer blockbuster deals for a while until expectations reset?


You can answer that, can't you?

Yeah, I don't really get that report. We've seen in recent years both the Bane and Bridges deals that are basically "everything and the kitchen sink".

Although I could maybe see a world where teams are slightly more willing to do that kind of deal for a final piece like the Magic and Knicks thought those guys would be, than for actual bonafide stars since you don't want to have only that guy and little else.


Think nba is in an oddd place where super stars can easily tank their value below the Banes, Bridges and Goberts of the NBA.

If Giannis says GSW or NYC, the other teams aren’t going to send their best packages to inherit the bucks problem.
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Post#890 » by Devilanche » Today 4:31 am

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
shangrila wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
You can answer that, can't you?

Yeah, I don't really get that report. We've seen in recent years both the Bane and Bridges deals that are basically "everything and the kitchen sink".

Although I could maybe see a world where teams are slightly more willing to do that kind of deal for a final piece like the Magic and Knicks thought those guys would be, than for actual bonafide stars since you don't want to have only that guy and little else.


Think nba is in an oddd place where super stars can easily tank their value below the Banes, Bridges and Goberts of the NBA.

If Giannis says GSW or NYC, the other teams aren’t going to send their best packages to inherit the bucks problem.


With OKC this dominant , they are less willing to pay a price that might be more fair to Milwaukee for a no guarantee Giannis than if say the league is wide open with no clear favourites.

Basically the premium one is willing to pay if the trade allows them to be amongst the 2 favourites for the title at least .
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Post#891 » by Devilanche » Today 5:27 am

LAC - what is their move this deadline?
Hope to get healthy and it all work out into the play in ?
Move some value guy for roster spot / second round players that haven’t perform so that next season they have some playable rotational player?
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Post#892 » by shangrila » Today 8:48 am

Devilanche wrote:LAC - what is their move this deadline?
Hope to get healthy and it all work out into the play in ?
Move some value guy for roster spot / second round players that haven’t perform so that next season they have some playable rotational player?

Not sure what choice they have. They can't afford to be bad, because they don't control their own picks, and they won't get a return that's worth more than what their main guys are giving them.

They could in theory put together a bit of expiring salary, so there might be a chance for them to take on longer salary to get a slight upgrade.
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Post#893 » by Devilanche » Today 12:38 pm

shangrila wrote:
Devilanche wrote:LAC - what is their move this deadline?
Hope to get healthy and it all work out into the play in ?
Move some value guy for roster spot / second round players that haven’t perform so that next season they have some playable rotational player?

Not sure what choice they have. They can't afford to be bad, because they don't control their own picks, and they won't get a return that's worth more than what their main guys are giving them.

They could in theory put together a bit of expiring salary, so there might be a chance for them to take on longer salary to get a slight upgrade.


Just interesting to watch. We seen enough success stories whereby less heralded youth break out when given a chance, clippers in theory could afford to pick up 2-3 such punts.
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Post#894 » by GatorbaitDD » Today 1:31 pm

DoItALL9 wrote:Franz Wagner & Paulo Banchero for Giannis A.


Orlando and Milwaukee shocker


I love PB for Giannis in the off season when PB extension kicks in. There's no world where Orlando can give up both of its cornerstones for Giannis. They will just become the Orlando Bucks at that point. Orlando would need some assurances that Giannis is willing to extend though.
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Post#895 » by SkyHook » 46 minutes ago

Dubs pick up Malevy Leons on a two way. He became one of my favorites to watch in Summer League. Hoping that he can show out well in the bay.
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Post#896 » by esvl » 39 minutes ago

GatorbaitDD wrote:
DoItALL9 wrote:Franz Wagner & Paulo Banchero for Giannis A.


Orlando and Milwaukee shocker


I love PB for Giannis in the off season when PB extension kicks in. There's no world where Orlando can give up both of its cornerstones for Giannis. They will just become the Orlando Bucks at that point. Orlando would need some assurances that Giannis is willing to extend though.

Bane and Suggs are studs

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