2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread

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Anyone hesitating any more to pay Tucker than they are Bo is crazy. Not many guys in baseball have been as consistent as him over the last 5 years. He has been between a 4.6-5.5 WAR player every season for the last 5 years… and in 2024, that was in just half a season! Dudes lifetime OPS is .865 , he hits both lefties and righties ( slugs over .500 against both too), and he hits both home and away. First half and second half. He steals bases, draws walks and limits his strikeouts. His bat plays in the middle of the lineup every day, and should play for many, many years.

How many years have they been looking for a left handed bat that can actually play in their top 4.

Springer
Tucker
Vlad
Bo
Barger/Santander
Kirk
Santander/Barger
Varsho
Gimenez

Clement, Heineman, Lukes,Straw

[Cyrus]

Anyone hesitating any more to pay Tucker than they are Bo is crazy. Not many guys in baseball have been as consistent as him over the last 5 years. He has been between a 4.6-5.5 WAR player every season for the last 5 years… and in 2024, that was in just half a season! Dudes lifetime OPS is .865 , he hits both lefties and righties ( slugs over .500 against both too), and he hits both home and away. First half and second half. He steals bases, draws walks and limits his strikeouts. His bat plays in the middle of the lineup every day, and should play for many, many years.

How many years have they been looking for a left handed bat that can actually play in their top 4.

Springer
Tucker
Vlad
Bo
Barger/Santander
Kirk
Santander/Barger
Varsho
Gimenez

Clement, Heineman, Lukes,Straw

All true but then contrast that by his playoffs numbers that's lower than varsho playoff numbers over almost 80 games. It's not like one bad playoff series or year, it's been consistently bad every year he's been in playoffs.

Do you v want a guy who is only a regular season performer then turns into varsho offensively playoffs, but making 35 mill? I certainly don't want 2 varsho like performers in playoffs

[GameChannel]

Anyone hesitating any more to pay Tucker than they are Bo is crazy. Not many guys in baseball have been as consistent as him over the last 5 years. He has been between a 4.6-5.5 WAR player every season for the last 5 years… and in 2024, that was in just half a season! Dudes lifetime OPS is .865 , he hits both lefties and righties ( slugs over .500 against both too), and he hits both home and away. First half and second half. He steals bases, draws walks and limits his strikeouts. His bat plays in the middle of the lineup every day, and should play for many, many years.

How many years have they been looking for a left handed bat that can actually play in their top 4.

Springer
Tucker
Vlad
Bo
Barger/Santander
Kirk
Santander/Barger
Varsho
Gimenez

Clement, Heineman, Lukes,Straw

All true but then contrast that by his playoffs numbers that's lower than varsho playoff numbers over almost 80 games. It's not like one bad playoff series or year, it's been consistently bad every year he's been in playoffs.

Do you v want a guy who is only a regular season performer then turns into varsho offensively playoffs, but making 35 mill? I certainly don't want 2 varsho like performers in playoffs

True. Also, F**k Varsho

[LoveMyRaps]

Wonder which other teams are making a strong push for Tucker. There’s always mystery teams involved.

[Los_29]

Why would anyone want to throw tons of cash at a reliever? Do these moves even pay off in the long run?

[Hottie McShotty]

Wonder which other teams are making a strong push for Tucker. There’s always mystery teams involved.

Which mystery teams have the budget to pursue a player like Tucker? Besides the Jays and Dodgers, I can't think of any other teams that are both interested and in need of an outfield upgrade.

I think it's going to come down to either the Jays on a longer term deal or a shorter term deal with the Dodgers with a higher AAV.

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[quote="GameChannel"][quote="Cyrus"][quote="bartron_44"]Anyone hesitating any more to pay Tucker than they are Bo is crazy. Not many guys in baseball have been as consistent as him over the last 5 years. He has been between a 4.6-5.5 WAR player every season for the last 5 years… and in 2024, that was in just half a season! Dudes lifetime OPS is .865 , he hits both lefties and righties ( slugs over .500 against both too), and he hits both home and away. First half and second half. He steals bases, draws walks and limits his strikeouts. His bat plays in the middle of the lineup every day, and should play for many, many years.

How many years have they been looking for a left handed bat that can actually play in their top 4.

Springer
Tucker
Vlad
Bo
Barger/Santander
Kirk
Santander/Barger
Varsho
Gimenez

Clement, Heineman, Lukes,Straw[/quote]

All true but then contrast that by his playoffs numbers that's lower than varsho playoff numbers over almost 80 games. It's not like one bad playoff series or year, it's been consistently bad every year he's been in playoffs.

Do you v want a guy who is only a regular season performer then turns into varsho offensively playoffs, but making 35 mill? I certainly don't want 2 varsho like performers in playoffs[/quote]

True. Also, F**k Varsho[/quote]


His one weakness at the dish is velocity, so lower numbers against nothing but top starters and late inning relievers makes sense. But it’s not like he has never had a good playoff’s performance, and he has a tonne of experience. You need to make the playoffs in the AL first, and he’s a guy that is going to help you get there consistently. Springer, Bo (hopefully), Vlad, Kirk, Clement and Barger were all pretty darn good come playoff time. Along with Gimenez and Varsho coming up clutch and driving in 20 runs between them. He would be joining a stacked and playoff tested lineup.

Its not like they would be a small market team relying on a special performance from just him to win in Oct.

[Tripod]

Yeah the last 10 years, they have made the playoffs 5 times. Adding someone who helps them get there more frequently is a good thing, especially in that division.

Will he be worth his contract? Likely not. But will he help the lineup, yup.


He checks a lot of boxes being a lefty, can run, can steal a base, hits at the top of lineup, etc..

[WuTang_CMB]

MLB doesn't have a cap so go out and spend. If the Leafs had no cap, they'd be spending more than anyone. Jays have a window here now
go out and do it until things change within MLB

[bartron_44]

I think if they really want to have a shot in their division every year, and against the Dodgers, then any time they can get an all-star that fits in with their core, they should try to add that player.


Im wondering if Tucker is waiting to see if Bo is sticking around too, or if they are trying to get these things announced the same day.

I also wonder if they are trying to shake things up…and zig when others zag…

I mean maybe they plan to go with a 5 person bench, and roll with 8 or 10 arms stretched out like starters. Try to use 3 pitchers per game again in the regular season instead of 4 or 5.

They already have ….

Cease
Gausman
Bieber
Yesavage
Berrios
Lauer
Ponce
Varland?

If they bring back Bassitt and Scherzer…. They could have 10. Then they compliment that with Hoffman, Garcia … and one more fireballer.

Or are we about to see a bunch of trades with Berrios, Straw/Lukes/Varsho/Schneider/Santander…


We shall see i guess

[Parataxis]

Why would anyone want to throw tons of cash at a reliever? Do these moves even pay off in the long run?

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I think if they really want to have a shot in their division every year, and against the Dodgers, then any time they can get an all-star that fits in with their core, they should try to add that player.


Im wondering if Tucker is waiting to see if Bo is sticking around too, or if they are trying to get these things announced the same day.

I also wonder if they are trying to shake things up…and zig when others zag…

I mean maybe they plan to go with a 5 person bench, and roll with 8 or 10 arms stretched out like starters. Try to use 3 pitchers per game again in the regular season instead of 4 or 5.

They already have ….

Cease
Gausman
Bieber
Yesavage
Berrios
Lauer
Ponce
Varland?

If they bring back Bassitt and Scherzer…. They could have 10. Then they compliment that with Hoffman, Garcia … and one more fireballer.

Or are we about to see a bunch of trades with Berrios, Straw/Lukes/Varsho/Schneider/Santander…


We shall see i guess

They said during winter meetings that Varland will be in the bullpen. It’s also not clear if Bieber will be ready to start the season, Ross Atkins said he’s week to week. And the Berrios situation is up in the air, it’s probably 50-50 if he’s on the roster come spring training

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If this is the case, then what’s the hold up?

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If this is the case, then what’s the hold up?

He wants 400 million and one penny.

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If this is the case, then what’s the hold up?

Possibly considering the Dodgers, as I've alluded to before.
- Higher AAV
- Higher probability of winning a world series (or two)
- Get to play alongside the greatest ever, Shohei

It'd be a 3 year deal and then once Freddie comes off the books (and retires) in 3 years, Dodgers can re-sign Tucker to that long-term deal he's looking for.

This is certainly a strong possibility.

I still favor the Jays to sign Tucker, but ever so slightly.

I got it at about 55% Jays right now. (Which is still much higher than Shi Davidi's 10-20% odds)
Dodgers at about 40%

I also don't think the Jays have actually offered 400mil or plan to, unless Bo signs first elsewhere.

[ItsDanger]

Maybe it means he'd rather play somewhere else and wants Jays to drive up other team's offer.

[bartron_44]

Can you imagine they say f*+^ it and give them both 500 million to make sure they get them both?