PG: The Scottie Barnes Show

[Mikistan]

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I think we don’t appreciate how good Barnes is because his biggest weakness is scoring (which he’s still pretty decent at). But he does everything so well. And has huge value.

"we"?

[tsherkin]

Don't have Sportsnet, so of course Scottie goes bonkers, lmao

[PushDaRock]

I'll take credit for the W. Scottie must have checked his phone on the bench and saw me say Draymond was outplaying him and then turned into the Incredible Hulk!!!

[raincityraptors]

Reminder - multiple posters complained Scottie started at C tonight, and that in itself should tell us to not think so highly of ourselves

Wouldn't it be funny after all this time, center is where he breaks out.

I have always thought Center is Scottie's best position. My favourite games of his have come when he plays that spot. I bought his jersey because this is exactly how I thought he would dominate the league. I was really frustrated by PG Scottie the last couple of years but this year he is finally starting to realize he is one of the strongest men in the paint.

My dream would be seeing Scottie become our starting center (Scottie is as strong as Draymond) then see Bobby make a deal for a Point Guard.

Hell while I'm at it, would love to see Dick get benched to give Lawson or Martin a chance with those minutes.

Can't wait to see RJ play more minutes and Walter is starting to look like a player!

[Scizzup]

Reminder - multiple posters complained Scottie started at C tonight, and that in itself should tell us to not think so highly of ourselves

Wouldn't it be funny after all this time, center is where he breaks out.

I have always thought Center is Scottie's best position. My favourite games of his have come when he plays that spot. I bought his jersey because this is exactly how I thought he would dominate the league. I was really frustrated by PG Scottie the last couple of years but this year he is finally starting to realize he is one of the strongest men in the paint.

My dream would be seeing Scottie become our starting center (Scottie is as strong as Draymond) then see Bobby make a deal for a Point Guard.

Hell while I'm at it, would love to see Dick get benched to give Lawson or Martin a chance with those minutes.

Can't wait to see RJ play more minutes and Walter is starting to look like a player!

Scottie can't play center full time or even majority minutes like peak Draymond. He is nowhere as good of a rim protector or smart defense or as strong as young Draymond. GSW tonight were small and unathletic so it worked well.

[pingpongrac]

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I think we don’t appreciate how good Barnes is because his biggest weakness is scoring (which he’s still pretty decent at). But he does everything so well. And has huge value.

Scottie had a pretty rough stretch for a few weeks after the Lakers game where he was generally floating around and not being near as assertive as he should have been without RJ/Poeltl while the majority of our role players were struggling, but he has still been a top 20ish player this season considering his two-way impact. Hopefully today's game is a sign of things to come (again) and RJ being back allows him play how he did for the majority of the first ~20 games. We're at the point now where I expect 20/8/7 type numbers (or better) from Scottie pretty much every game, but it all comes down to his effort and focus. When he's locked in, he arguably has the impact of a top 10 player.

[wegotthabeet]

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I think we don’t appreciate how good Barnes is because his biggest weakness is scoring (which he’s still pretty decent at). But he does everything so well. And has huge value.

"we"?

Please don’t lump “us” in with some of the idiots here that don’t realize how good Scottie is.

[hype_2004]

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I think we don’t appreciate how good Barnes is because his biggest weakness is scoring (which he’s still pretty decent at). But he does everything so well. And has huge value.

Scottie had a pretty rough stretch for a few weeks after the Lakers game where he was generally floating around and not being near as assertive as he should have been without RJ/Poeltl while the majority of our role players were struggling, but he has still been a top 20ish player this season considering his two-way impact. Hopefully today's game is a sign of things to come (again) and RJ being back allows him play how he did for the majority of the first ~20 games. We're at the point now where I expect 20/8/7 type numbers (or better) from Scottie pretty much every game, but it all comes down to his effort and focus. When he's locked in, he arguably has the impact of a top 10 player.

A locked in Scottie is an All NBA MVP/DPOY candidate while a disengaged Scottie is barely an NBA player, therein lies the Paradox duality.

[Boogie!]

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I think we don’t appreciate how good Barnes is because his biggest weakness is scoring (which he’s still pretty decent at). But he does everything so well. And has huge value.

Scottie had a pretty rough stretch for a few weeks after the Lakers game where he was generally floating around and not being near as assertive as he should have been without RJ/Poeltl while the majority of our role players were struggling, but he has still been a top 20ish player this season considering his two-way impact. Hopefully today's game is a sign of things to come (again) and RJ being back allows him play how he did for the majority of the first ~20 games. We're at the point now where I expect 20/8/7 type numbers (or better) from Scottie pretty much every game, but it all comes down to his effort and focus. When he's locked in, he arguably has the impact of a top 10 player.

The issue with Barnes is there should be no debates about effort and focus at this point in his career. You pay this man to carry you when your team sucks. That’s why he’s the franchise max guy. The expectation is night in and night out you must produce even when no one else is producing we should know that at least you’re going to show up. Chris bosh got slagged for not being a proper franchise guy, and yet I’ve seen more consistency in his effort and play than Barnes. His supporting casts were always so much worse.

[YogurtProducer]

IQ needs a C and/or another PG/good playmaker. Otherwise he struggles often. Anyone earning $32M can be criticized for sub par play. Shouldn't even require explanation.

Guy seemed to do just fine tonight.

[hype_2004]

Reminder - multiple posters complained Scottie started at C tonight, and that in itself should tell us to not think so highly of ourselves

Wouldn't it be funny after all this time, center is where he breaks out.

I have always thought Center is Scottie's best position. My favourite games of his have come when he plays that spot. I bought his jersey because this is exactly how I thought he would dominate the league. I was really frustrated by PG Scottie the last couple of years but this year he is finally starting to realize he is one of the strongest men in the paint.

My dream would be seeing Scottie become our starting center (Scottie is as strong as Draymond) then see Bobby make a deal for a Point Guard.

Hell while I'm at it, would love to see Dick get benched to give Lawson or Martin a chance with those minutes.

Can't wait to see RJ play more minutes and Walter is starting to look like a player!

Scottie is like a mini Dwight Howard, he has that undeniable man strength that can dominate in certain matchups.

[ItsDanger]

IQ needs a C and/or another PG/good playmaker. Otherwise he struggles often. Anyone earning $32M can be criticized for sub par play. Shouldn't even require explanation.

Guy seemed to do just fine tonight.

He played terrible in 1st half. If you can't see it with him by now, you never will. Even when it's spelled it for you.

[Tor_Raps]

We need to talk about Shead, he was great!

The game changed when he was guarding Steph.

[YogurtProducer]

IQ needs a C and/or another PG/good playmaker. Otherwise he struggles often. Anyone earning $32M can be criticized for sub par play. Shouldn't even require explanation.

Guy seemed to do just fine tonight.

He played terrible in 1st half. If you can't see it with him by now, you never will. Even when it's spelled it for you.

Sure. He also was a huge reason why we won.

Overreacting to small samples, such as one half of basketball, is frankly just something I cannot say here without getting timeout'd for the night.

I know you are box score watching due to the 5 turnovers, but if you actually watch them they are not that egregious. There is two teams on the floor, and like 3 of those you kind of just have to say "yeah, good play GSW" rather than blast IQ for it. The 5th one was bad, but are we seriously raising the bar to "must play perfectly"?

Spoiler:

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&ContextMeasure=TOV&GameID=0022500441&PlayerID=1630193&Season=2025-26&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=&flag=1&sct=plot&section=game

He also took 5 shots offensively. Freaking out because he went 1-5 on a 5 shot sample is again, words I cannot use here. Especially when again, if you watch and dont box score surf, you'd know they were good looks that simply did not fall.

Spoiler:

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&ContextMeasure=FGA&GameID=0022500441&PlayerID=1630193&Season=2025-26&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=&flag=3&sct=plot&section=game

Like man - there is more to basketball than the box score. You can play good and have bad stats. You can play bad and have good stats. But far to often on this board guys look at the box score and that is how they decide how a guy played. We had dudes in the GT making fun of IQ's 0/0/0 stat line when he checked out in the 1st Q, but ignored that we had a 131ORTG with IQ on the court in the 1st Q. What was he supposed to do? Hijack an offence that was working to appease the box score surfers?

[Tripod]

Yeah for sure. I'd just be curious to see other good shooters and how stretches like this line up.

My guess is it's a fairly regular occurrence.

Oh for sure. They get hot. They go cold.

That's why it's funny when people complain about Barnes having bad shooting nights when he isn't a natural scorer in the least.

Oh, Curry's last 5 games...shooting 24% from 3!

When the best can go cold, of course others can too.

So wait, does it deserve criticism or should we be more level headed and issue criticism on larger sample sizes?

Both.

During the game when your PG has gone 1-5 and 1 assist and 1 rebound at the half, he 100% deserves to be criticized.

And when he goes 6 straight games shooting 19% and 12 points, again, criticize.

But criticize that he has been playing like garbage, needs to be better, needs to make open 3's, etc... Don't say he IS garbage. IS useless. Etc... as if that's what he is all the time.

I criticized IQ for his garbage play...but I still call him our best shooter and want him playing more off ball to take more shots. Because in the big picture of the season, he is going to make more than others, history shows.

I just think you can do both. And if you notice, or not, I have not said things like "get him off the team" like some others. We need his shooting. And when shooting well, like the 2nd half, he raises the team. But when he misses for 6 straight games, it also drags the team because we don't have another option to pick up the slack. Story of the team...lol

[Tor_Raps]

IQ needs a C and/or another PG/good playmaker. Otherwise he struggles often. Anyone earning $32M can be criticized for sub par play. Shouldn't even require explanation.

Ya I dont get the confusion, we needed IQ to step up when RJ went out and he had a lot of bad games. Hes being paid a lot of money that we cant use to upgrade other parts of the roster to be able to do exactly that. Dont get upset that fans will IQ to the standards of his contract.

With that said, he was awesome down the stretch. This team needs his shooting because we have no one else on the team to provide that sadly.

[ItsDanger]

Guy seemed to do just fine tonight.

He played terrible in 1st half. If you can't see it with him by now, you never will. Even when it's spelled it for you.

Sure. He also was a huge reason why we won.

Overreacting to small samples, such as one half of basketball, is frankly just something I cannot say here without getting timeout'd for the night.

I know you are box score watching due to the 5 turnovers, but if you actually watch them they are not that egregious. There is two teams on the floor, and like 3 of those you kind of just have to say "yeah, good play GSW" rather than blast IQ for it. The 5th one was bad, but are we seriously raising the bar to "must play perfectly"?

Spoiler:

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&ContextMeasure=TOV&GameID=0022500441&PlayerID=1630193&Season=2025-26&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=&flag=1&sct=plot&section=game

He also took 5 shots offensively. Freaking out because he went 1-5 on a 5 shot sample is again, words I cannot use here. Especially when again, if you watch and dont box score surf, you'd know they were good looks that simply did not fall.

Spoiler:

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&ContextMeasure=FGA&GameID=0022500441&PlayerID=1630193&Season=2025-26&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=&flag=3&sct=plot&section=game

Like man - there is more to basketball than the box score. You can play good and have bad stats. You can play bad and have good stats. But far to often on this board guys look at the box score and that is how they decide how a guy played. We had dudes in the GT making fun of IQ's 0/0/0 stat line when he checked out in the 1st Q, but ignored that we had a 131ORTG with IQ on the court in the 1st Q. What was he supposed to do? Hijack an offence that was working to appease the box score surfers?

Like I said, you never will.

[Indeed]

Wouldn't it be funny after all this time, center is where he breaks out.

I have always thought Center is Scottie's best position. My favourite games of his have come when he plays that spot. I bought his jersey because this is exactly how I thought he would dominate the league. I was really frustrated by PG Scottie the last couple of years but this year he is finally starting to realize he is one of the strongest men in the paint.

My dream would be seeing Scottie become our starting center (Scottie is as strong as Draymond) then see Bobby make a deal for a Point Guard.

Hell while I'm at it, would love to see Dick get benched to give Lawson or Martin a chance with those minutes.

Can't wait to see RJ play more minutes and Walter is starting to look like a player!

Scottie can't play center full time or even majority minutes like peak Draymond. He is nowhere as good of a rim protector or smart defense or as strong as young Draymond. GSW tonight were small and unathletic so it worked well.

Sadly, Barnes playing outside of C is just average or below due to his shooting.
He will need to play C to make up his near-max contract.

[Boogie!]

IQ needs a C and/or another PG/good playmaker. Otherwise he struggles often. Anyone earning $32M can be criticized for sub par play. Shouldn't even require explanation.

Guy seemed to do just fine tonight.

He played terrible in 1st half. If you can't see it with him by now, you never will. Even when it's spelled it for you.

Why are people talking about his first half when he finished strong and was a big contributor to the win down the stretch?

If this man played this way every night and finished 5/10 from 3 with 27 points he’d be an all-star…

The issue with quickley is they keep trying to make him a traditional pg when he’s not. He should be playing like Stephen curry… why did prime draymond average so many assists? Because he was the hub/playmaker of the offense, not curry… instead we’re here watching iq dribble out the clock waiting for him to forcefeed Ingram… complete waste of iq.. the guy is a combo scoring guard, he’s not there to be Steve Nash, and when we first brought him in I honestly thought it was because Barnes was gonna be the playmaker in the same way draymond was for curry. Somehow in their neee to “develop” they kept trying to force quickley to be this traditional pg and it never made sense from day one.

[CoachD]

I was annoyed all game by the fans who were oooooing and ahhhing and cheering everything Steph did.

Literally got better reactions on a back cut miss than our own guys on buckets

Pathetic