Lets Dream- u want defensive powerhouse or high octane team?

joelh · Post #21 » by **joelh** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 12:48 am

Defense. Give me the pistons over the Mavs if I am forced to choose.

GuyverADL · Post #22 » by **GuyverADL** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 12:58 am

High Octane

The leagues is changing.

Immortal King · Post #23 » by **Immortal King** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 1:12 am

this is new york man. DEFENSE@!!!!!!!

randomhero423 · Post #24 » by **randomhero423** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:08 am

king_k4life wrote:Ok what about this

Rockets The past 2 years or The Suns ?

I say Suns

rockets aren't a defensive power house..

how about pistons when they won the 'ship or suns?

I say Pistons.

Wrighteous · Post #25 » by **Wrighteous** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:17 am

king_k4life wrote:Ok what about this

Rockets The past 2 years or The Suns ?

I say Suns

Pistons/Spurs or Suns?

Give me Pistons/Spurs, the Suns are never going to win a title with their (Please Use More Appropriate Word) play. Let me also take this time to say that Steve Nash is severely overrated. That guy is a product of the Phoenix system.

krustytheclown · Post #26 » by **krustytheclown** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:23 am

nash is overrated? :rofl:

king_k4life · Post #27 » by **king_k4life** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:23 am

Wrighteous wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Pistons/Spurs or Suns?

Give me Pistons/Spurs, the Suns are never going to win a title with their (Please Use More Appropriate Word) play. Let me also take this time to say that Steve Nash is severely overrated. That guy is a product of the Phoenix system.

Your naming title winners though keep it fair.

You can't say Do you rather the Champs or the team the champs beat ?

Wrighteous · Post #28 » by **Wrighteous** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:29 am

marbury2curry wrote:nash is overrated?

Nash is an all-star, but he's not worthy of any MVP trophies. He wasn't putting up these kind of stats during his Dallas days. He's being glorified by Phoenix' system, pure and simple.

randomhero423 · Post #29 » by **randomhero423** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:34 am

king_k4life wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Your naming title winners though keep it fair.

You can't say Do you rather the Champs or the team the champs beat ?

how is it not fair? the suns are a high octane offense and the pistons/spurs are powerhouse defenses. if anything it's proof defense wins championships...

king_k4life · Post #30 » by **king_k4life** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:40 am

randomhero423 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

how is it not fair? the suns are a high octane offense and the pistons/spurs are powerhouse defenses. if anything it's proof defense wins championships...

Ok I gotcha

Spurs or Celtics

Right Now

Pistons or Celtics...

randomhero423 · Post #31 » by **randomhero423** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:44 am

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celtics are also a power house defensive team. they are #1 in opp ppg (87 pts) and #1 in opp FG %...

a fair question is:

detroit or golden state?

ik i'm talkin the pistons..

king_k4life · Post #32 » by **king_k4life** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:46 am

randomhero423 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

celtics are also a power house defensive team. they are #1 in opp ppg (87 pts) and #1 in opp FG %...

a fair question is:

detroit or golden state?

ik i'm talkin the pistons..

GS have no structure and cannot work in Half court sets

Detriot or Suns

I choose Suns

randomhero423 · Post #33 » by **randomhero423** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 2:47 am

i pick detriot. pistons got more rings, have a better +/- difference btwn opp ppg/their ppg, and if the suns are stuck in a half court situation they are screwed.

for a team with no structure/can't work in half court sets GS are pretty good in being #2 in ppg...

don32979 · Post #34 » by **don32979** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 3:59 am

D-FENCE!

O Poutsokleftis · Post #35 » by **O Poutsokleftis** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 4:18 am

Wrighteous wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Pistons/Spurs or Suns?

Give me Pistons/Spurs, the Suns are never going to win a title with their (Please Use More Appropriate Word) play. Let me also take this time to say that Steve Nash is severely overrated. That guy is a product of the Phoenix system.

I agree with you that I prefer Pistons/Spurs ball because it is a team oriented team, but Steve Nash is the man- actually without Steve Nash, I think the Suns are the worst team in the NBA.

randomhero423 · Post #36 » by **randomhero423** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 4:20 am

O Poutsokleftis wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I agree with you that I prefer Pistons/Spurs ball because it is a team oriented team, but Steve Nash is the man- actually without Steve Nash, I think the Suns are the worst team in the NBA.

but if you replace him with any starting pg in the nba (aside from a few exceptions) they'd still be good.

slamvangundy · Post #37 » by **slamvangundy** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 7:00 am

Wrighteous wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Pistons/Spurs or Suns?

Give me Pistons/Spurs, the Suns are never going to win a title with their (Please Use More Appropriate Word) play. Let me also take this time to say that Steve Nash is severely overrated. That guy is a product of the Phoenix system.

1. Suns outplayed the Spurs last year. They were freaking robbed. Had the officiating been fair/Amare and Duncan treated in a consistent basis with regards to suspensions, I think it is more likely than not the Suns would have beaten the spurs and taken the championship.

2. Suns were a severely underrated defensive team. Amare, Marion, Kurt Thomas, Raja Bell----they had improved to I believe 12th in the league in terms of defense. Sure they were pushing the ball, but they were also playing great tough D.

3. Nash is underrated as a defender. In the NBA, it is normal for a player to get by you as a point guard. The question is how do you fight back and get around the pick? How do you contest the shot/do you force the guard whose driving into taking a low percentage/off balance shot. I always heard so much about Nash's defense being terrible. I have not seen that play out in the many many games I've watched of him.

4. Is Nash a product of that system? Or is he one of the hardest working players in the NBA and a student of the game, who busted his balls and developed as a player. One of my favorite Nash quotes is "If everybody worked as hard as I did, I'd be out of a job." That man lives in the gym, stays in incredible shape and is always adding to his game.