Trading Redd Is Not The Way

[trwi7]

Its just a universal fact that sex with crazy girls > sex with sane girls.

And when you can add three ways with their horny, younger sisters it just enhances the pleasure that much more.

[europa]

Its just a universal fact that sex with crazy girls > sex with sane girls.

No argument. But I don't even think Britney is just crazy at this point. She's far far far beyond crazy. Not sure that's guaranteed to make the sex better.

[GrandAdmiralDan]

Wasn't Ray Allen going to take less money to come here if we lost Redd?

No.
Ray Allen was going to sign with the Bucks if we lost Redd, but it wasn't going to be for less money.

Also, SAR turned us down as well.

No, that isn't what happened.
Simultaneous offers were made to Simmons and SAR and both offers stipulated that whoever got back to us first would get that contract. Simmons accepted basically right away, giving SAR no opportunity to either accept or decline our offer, since it was no longer available. Larry Harris did a favor to SAR's agent by not disputing the claim he was making about SAR turning down our offer. It was an attempt to create a better market for SAR.

I suppose it is possible that SAR would have turned down our offer if it was still available, but it wasn't available for him to turn down.

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Gerald Wallace was being pursued by some of the top teams in the NBA and turned them down. Michael Redd wasn't the hinderance to us getting him.. it's ridiculous that a few months into the season fans have forgotten that even the Spurs were trying to grab him and he turned them down.

Of course he turned down the Spurs, as they could only offer him the MLE. That was the most pretty much any team could offer him, so he turned them all down since Charlotte, where he did prefer to remain, was offering him significantly more money than that. I don't understand why you would bring that up with the implication that it bolsters your case somehow.

Wallace wasn't interested in taking less money to play somewhere else. If the money were to be equal, or nearly equal, he still preferred to stay in Charlotte. He was, however, completely open to signing somewhere else if they offered significantly more money than Charlotte. Had we done that, and had Charlotte not matched that bid, he would have signed here, according to my information. The teams that could make those kind of offers were Orlando and Milwaukee, but neither team made an offer larger than what Charlotte ended up offering. It is possible that even in the presence of a higher offer, Charlotte would have upped their own bid and Wallace still would have stayed there, but we didn't even attempt to find out, just like we didn't attempt to find out if we could outbid the Pistons for Billups.

The fact is the Bucks made Mo their No. 1 free agent priority last summer. That meant they viewed him as being more important than making a run at Wallace (which was little more than cursory) or Billups (which was nothing short of insulting to him) and any other FA on the market. Mo was their top choice and they had money - quite a bit as it turned out - set aside in order to keep him. So it was the decision to re-sign Mo and not Redd's contract that prevented the Bucks from making a strong run at someone like Billups or Wallace. Mo was the big-name FA the team was going to sign last summer.

An excellent summary of the situation.

It's also possible that because Kohl and/or his cronies knew they were going to pay upwards of $9M a year it was a factor in the decision to turn down the Suns' offer of Marion for Yi and Simmons. One could argue they placed a higher value on paying Mo than they did the fact they would have brought in a Top 20 player. That's pure speculation on my part but it fits with the facts at hand.

Yeah, I have nothing on that one way or the other either, but that is interesting speculation that could very well be correct.

europa, I hope you never do share "inside information" in the future. That's the point. You haven't established any credibility as far as actually having any valuable sources, so nobody wants to hear what is really just your opinions masquerading as if they're the opinions of GMs and coaches around the league.

This might not meet your criteria of establishing credibility, but europa has 100% established credibility at least with me, in part based on private communication between us. I'm not sure he would be willing/able to publicly meet your criteria.

As for CBQ, her sources of information could be more extensive, but I do happen to be aware of one legit NBA person she communicates with that I communicate with as well, so I know she at least has that going for her, if not more.

That being said, I'm not sure what is going on with the SAR issue with her. I think I still have her private contact info somewhere, so perhaps when I have more time later I can get that cleared up with her privately.

[bigkurty]

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I probably would cuz of the celeb factor but honestly she's beyond bonkers right now. She's in Anna Nicole Land.

Let me ask you this: If you had a regular girl who was as utterly gonzo as Britney and looked like her, would you have sex with her? To me, the only reason anyone would want to have sex with Britney Spears at this point is to say they had sex with Britney Spears.

And give Timberlake credit - he had sex with her at a time when pretty the entire male population in the world wanted her.

I agree with what you are saying but yes I would have sex with Britney just cause I could claim it then. It sounds like I better do it quick though cause I wouldn't doubt an Anna Nicole ending for her.

As a side note: Would you guys have unprotected sex with Pamela knowing you could very well get Hepatitis C. This one is tough because she is still hot but she is diseased. I would like to think I would have the self control to say no but if I were drunk and Pamela were all over me, it might be too tempting to say no.

[schweig]

europa while you were breaking mirrors and crawling under ladders, i was relaxing my way out of the psychedelic womb on april 20

[carmelbrownqueen]

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The hell with him. He can always go back to Britney.

OK, I wouldn't wish that upon anybody. Well almost anybody.

Yikes...maybe send him back to Cameron Diaz, not Britney. I like Justin's music too much to see him mess with her again.

[trwi7]

Let me ask you this: If you had a regular girl who was as utterly gonzo as Britney and looked like her, would you have sex with her? To me, the only reason anyone would want to have sex with Britney Spears at this point is to say they had sex with Britney Spears.

Umm would I have to maintain a relationship with her? If I didn't have to the answer would be yes.

[trwi7]

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Yikes...maybe send him back to Cameron Diaz.

I'd rather have Britney. Cameron Diaz's face looks like ass.

[carmelbrownqueen]

Careful kurty what if this is her myspace?

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No...I'm no Jessica B. but I look nothing like that.

[GrandAdmiralDan]

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Yeah, what she said.

are you really Christine on WSSP by the way?

The woman you are thinking of is Christina, not Christine. I personally can't stand her calls because her entire schtick is going way over the top in her ripping on Andrew Bogut.

I would NEVER have thought that was CBQ, even if I didn't happen to know what her actual name is.

I think some people look at CBQ's screen name, and then whenever they come across a Bucks fan that lines up with those attributes, they wonder if that is CBQ
I'm sure the low ratio of female:male fans factors into that strange phenomenon.
I'm surprised/relieved this doesn't seem to bother CBQ

[carmelbrownqueen]

Too bad you can't bottle some of that confidence and sell it, you could be the majority owner in the Bucks RealGM ownership group

I can't bottle too much of it because it took to long to put it altogether.

[carmelbrownqueen]

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Mine's 10 days later. Born on a Friday and if anybody makes a joke about that, CBQ's gonna kick your ass. Or at least she better defend my honor dammit.

[schweig]

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No...I'm no Jessica B. but I look nothing like that.

Sorry I didn't mean for the call-you-out part of that, just the anonymous flirting thing. For example this is me, for some reason most of the people I set up internet dates with don't seem very excited to meet me and I'm wondering if I have an odor:



and I should have quoted Kurty's "since eventually she will succumb to my advances and then what do I do" for that confidence one but hey, we couldn't have too much confidence or $ from any of us on the way up to $500M for Herb.

I hope he can sell soon just so we can see what kind of decadent rich stuff he'd do with that kind of money at his age

[magpies]

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I disagree that he hasn't made any improvements in his game, this or in other seasons. I still agree with the original poster that Redd isn't the guy we need to focus on as far as trading someone. If we can get a wad of used stale chewing gum for CV, Simmons, Gadzuric, and/or Bell.. I would take it, so we can get some guys on here to really support and produce next to our starters.

What value has Simmons, Bell, Gaz and CV have NONE, to move this team in the right direction Yi (won't happen) Bogut(might) or Redd have to be traded they are the only ones with value

[bigkurty]

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No...I'm no Jessica B. but I look nothing like that.

What do you look like then?

[carmelbrownqueen]

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This might not meet your criteria of establishing credibility, but europa has 100% established credibility at least with me, in part based on private communication between us. I'm not sure he would be willing/able to publicly meet your criteria.

As for CBQ, her sources of information could be more extensive, but I do happen to be aware of one legit NBA person she communicates with that I communicate with as well, so I know she at least has that going for her, if not more.

That being said, I'm not sure what is going on with the SAR issue with her. I think I still have her private contact info somewhere, so perhaps when I have more time later I can get that cleared up with her privately.

My point regarding Gerald Wallace was that his preference was always Bobcats..the assumption that if it were not for Michael Redd's salary we could have signed him, was not correct. From what I was told money did matter but ultimately his heart was on his current team.

Regarding SAR, I never said your info was wrong. I said a number of posters had correct (good) info. regarding what happened..more specifically during the process. And I told him if he wanted to know more he should look back. A lot of things happened during the Simmons/SAR which were true. Hey feel free to contact me..I want to know how things are going with your new phone anyway.

[Nowak008]

Let me ask you this: If you had a regular girl who was as utterly gonzo as Britney and looked like her, would you have sex with her? To me, the only reason anyone would want to have sex with Britney Spears at this point is to say they had sex with Britney Spears.

Um. Yes.

[carmelbrownqueen]

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The woman you are thinking of is Christina, not Christine. I personally can't stand her calls because her entire schtick is going way over the top in her ripping on Andrew Bogut.

I would NEVER have thought that was CBQ, even if I didn't happen to know what her actual name is.

I think some people look at CBQ's screen name, and then whenever they come across a Bucks fan that lines up with those attributes, they wonder if that is CBQ
I'm sure the low ratio of female:male fans factors into that strange phenomenon.
I'm surprised/relieved this doesn't seem to bother CBQ

Being the only girl usually on this board.. I recognize that whenever other posters hear a girl's voice often times associate me with that person. I try not to take offense especially since I have never heard any of the comments.

[carmelbrownqueen]

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Sorry I didn't mean for the call-you-out part of that, just the anonymous flirting thing. For example this is me, for some reason most of the people I set up internet dates with don't seem very excited to meet me and I'm wondering if I have an odor:

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and I should have quoted Kurty's "since eventually she will succumb to my advances and then what do I do" for that confidence one but hey, we couldn't have too much confidence or $ from any of us on the way up to $500M for Herb.

I hope he can sell soon just so we can see what kind of decadent rich stuff he'd do with that kind of money at his age

Don't worry I didn't take offense....my eyes started to hurt a bit with both of those pictures you posted but I wasn't offended.

[carmelbrownqueen]

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What value has Simmons, Bell, Gaz and CV have NONE, to move this team in the right direction Yi (won't happen) Bogut(might) or Redd have to be traded they are the only ones with value

I keep meaning to look for a picture of a wad of chewing gum in reference to what I would take for CV, Simmons, Bell and Gadz.. maybe that would help prove my point.

No but in all seriousness, I never in a million years thought anyone valued KVH as worth much of anything before Harris was able to get the Mavs to take him. My honest hope is that Simmons, CV or Gadz might be attractive to someone. I'm not saying we will get an all star, but I think we can get an expiring deal or an underused player from another team or something.