Derek Fisher - best offseason free agent signing?

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Post#21 » by Mr. Perfect » Wed Jan 9, 2008 5:44 am

I'm amazed at his shooting efficiency this year. He's at about 48% which is waaaaay higher than his career average of 40%. He should come back to earth sooner or later.
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Post#22 » by xstockholmsyndromex » Wed Jan 9, 2008 5:47 am

gswhoops wrote:I don't think Fisher really counts because by all rights, he shouldn't have been a free agent. Utah let him out of his contract so he could get his daughter cancer treatment, basically knowing he would sign with the Lakers.


Actually Utah let him out of his contract, thinking that he would sign with a team back east, since his daughter was receiving, and still receives, the majority of her cancer treatment in NEW YORK, not LA. I guess LA is closer to NY than SLC.

Anyhoo...I think that Grant Hill was a great veteran pickup for Phoenix.

But I think Jason Hart has done more for the Jazz than any of the other free agents have done for their teams.
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Post#23 » by That Nicka » Wed Jan 9, 2008 5:47 am

TradeMachine wrote:If we're going by just numbers:

Lakers in 2006-2007: 22-11 after 33 games.
Lakers in 2007-2008: 22-11 after 33 games.



Lakers started out great last year because something like 17 of their first 24 games were at Home... This year they have duplicated their record while having one of the toughest schedules in the league... Derek Fisher and Andrew Bynum are the reasons why we are a better team this year

Fisher>>>>>>Smush
Bynum>>>>>>Kwame
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Post#24 » by Jules Winnfield » Wed Jan 9, 2008 5:50 am

Mr. Perfect wrote:I'm amazed at his shooting efficiency this year. He's at about 48% which is waaaaay higher than his career average of 40%. He should come back to earth sooner or later.


See what playing with Kobe Bryant can do for a shooter?
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Post#25 » by JordansBulls » Wed Jan 9, 2008 5:52 am

Patterns wrote:After watching Smush play for 2 years, I forgot how a real pro plays.


What do you mean? The guy averaged 11 ppg. Not even half the players on any team average that.
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Post#26 » by semi-sentient » Wed Jan 9, 2008 5:54 am

Mike Miller wrote:As good as Fisher was, the Grizzlies thought the credit belonged to Bryant.

"Fisher is a good shooter, but Kobe creates a lot of that," Miller said. "[Bryant] is a great basketball player. He demands a lot of attention. And when you demand a lot of attention, a lot of guys get open shots."
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Post#27 » by JellosJigglin » Wed Jan 9, 2008 5:54 am

That Nicka wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




Lakers started out great last year because something like 17 of their first 24 games were at Home... This year they have duplicated their record while having one of the toughest schedules in the league... Derek Fisher and Andrew Bynum are the reasons why we are a better team this year

Fisher>>>>>>Smush
Bynum>>>>>>Kwame


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Out of the top 8 teams in the Western Conference, the Lakers have had the toughest schedule. And they still have a great record to show for it. January is a cake walk, so they're going to turn even more heads by the end of this month as they pad their record. The real test comes in February, when they play I believe only 4 home games in the entire month.
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Post#28 » by semi-sentient » Wed Jan 9, 2008 5:56 am

JordansBulls wrote:What do you mean? The guy averaged 11 ppg. Not even half the players on any team average that.


What his his shooting %? FT%? Assists per game? TO's? Defense?

OH, AND LEADERSHIP?

The real question is, what do YOU mean?
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Post#29 » by That Nicka » Wed Jan 9, 2008 5:59 am

JordansBulls wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



What do you mean? The guy averaged 11 ppg. Not even half the players on any team average that.


What are his numbers like this season?
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Post#30 » by JellosJigglin » Wed Jan 9, 2008 6:02 am

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What do you mean? The guy averaged 11 ppg. Not even half the players on any team average that.


Did you even watch the Lakers over the last 2 years? Do you only look at stats? Smush **** Parker was the worst starting PG in the entire league. Houston fans will argue that Rafer was the worst...but whatever. Worst or 2nd worst, take your pick. Smush **** Parker got those points largely UNCONTESTED. And he was a revolving door on the defensive end.

Smush **** Parker was the worst starting point guard in the history of the Minneapolis/Los Angeles Lakers, and arguably in the history of the NBA.
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Post#31 » by Jules Winnfield » Wed Jan 9, 2008 6:04 am

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What do you mean? The guy averaged 11 ppg. Not even half the players on any team average that.


Here's an idea. Why don't you trade one of those scrubs on the Bulls for Smush? I'm sure Miami won't mind.
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Post#32 » by Bgil » Wed Jan 9, 2008 6:50 am

JordansBulls wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



What do you mean? The guy averaged 11 ppg. Not even half the players on any team average that.


<sarcasm> In light of that nugget of information I vote for the Miami Heat as making the best FA pickup of the year. Hell, they underpaid for those guaranteed 11ppg. </sarcasm>

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Post#33 » by tkb » Wed Jan 9, 2008 7:05 am

JordansBulls wrote:What do you mean? The guy averaged 11 ppg. Not even half the players on any team average that.


:rofl:

So you're admitting to not having seen him play at the back end of last season?

Let's put it this way; I wouldn't want Smush on the team even if I received payment to watch him play.

When neither Phil Jackson nor Pat Riley wants anything more to do with you as a player, you know you're pretty much done. But hey, he averaged 11 ppg once. Never mind that 2 of the 3 greatest coaches of all time wants no part of him.
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Post#34 » by JellosJigglin » Wed Jan 9, 2008 7:10 am

tkb wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



:rofl:

So you're admitting to not having seen him play at the back end of last season?

Let's put it this way; I wouldn't want Smush on the team even if I received payment to watch him play.

When neither Phil Jackson nor Pat Riley wants anything more to do with you as a player, you know you're pretty much done. But hey, he averaged 11 ppg once. Never mind that 2 of the 3 greatest coaches of all time wants no part of him.


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Post#35 » by tnayrbrocks » Wed Jan 9, 2008 7:14 am

lol Fisher was a Godsend for the lakers

JordansBulls you should make sure you know wtf your talking about next time before you get exposed
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Post#36 » by Patterns » Wed Jan 9, 2008 7:17 am

JordansBulls wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



What do you mean? The guy averaged 11 ppg. Not even half the players on any team average that.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Post#37 » by Bgil » Wed Jan 9, 2008 8:12 am

tkb wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



:rofl:

So you're admitting to not having seen him play at the back end of last season?

Let's put it this way; I wouldn't want Smush on the team even if I received payment to watch him play.

When neither Phil Jackson nor Pat Riley wants anything more to do with you as a player, you know you're pretty much done. But hey, he averaged 11 ppg once. Never mind that 2 of the 3 greatest coaches of all time wants no part of him.


Larry Brown called him "a turnover waiting to happen".
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Post#38 » by thefoulness » Wed Jan 9, 2008 8:25 am

I go with Fisher or Posey. Fisher has offered leadership and some good shooting, and Posey leadership, shooting and a defensive focus that mirrors KG's.

Grant Hill is good, but Phoenix is worse than last year. I don't blame him, but when the team you come to gets worse, you're clearly not making that much of a difference.
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Post#39 » by That Nicka » Wed Jan 9, 2008 8:30 am

^ I dont consider Grant Hill that great of a pickup because I think he actually takes a little bit away from Shawn Marion and maybe even Raja Bell too... Grant is having a great year but both those guys numbers have dipped
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Post#40 » by mkot » Wed Jan 9, 2008 11:25 am

Bgil wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Larry Brown called him "a turnover waiting to happen".


Mike D'Antoni also called him "a turnover waiting to happen" when he was with the Suns for a 10-day contract...
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