Bynum Missing All-Star

Mamba Venom · Post #1 » by **Mamba Venom** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:33 am

Bynum is 2nd in the league in FG%.
Bynum is 9th in blocked shots
Bynum is 10th in rebounding

Bynum will be an All-Star next season if he can become a top 30 scorer. Currently he isnt top 70 yet but he is breaking out.

If Bynum were listed as a center on this years ballot he might have gotten in because he is only 20. Kobe was on the ballot early because of the hype his third season. I wish Bynum would get consideration.

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Duncan is a forward... Bynum would stand a chance because of the Lakers record. Individuals get rewarded for team success. Howard and Butler got noticed because of the improvement of their play and how it affected each s team. Bynum has had a huge effect on this ball club.

Post #2 » by **snaquille oatmeal** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:35 am

Like Jeff Van Gundy said last night, he can still get voted in by the coaches.

Post #3 » by **crazyeights** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:48 am

Bynum has said since he was drafted his goal was to be an All-Star by his fourth season.

Let's hope he achieves that goal.

That Nicka · Post #4 » by **That Nicka** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:51 am

He shouldnt be one this year... Make him earn it... At this pace he will be one for sure next year

KobeFan · Post #5 » by **KobeFan** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:00 am

Bynum's averages in January:

MIN PTS REB BLK FG FT
31.4 18.8 12.8 2.8 6.98 7.41

Bynum has more upside than D12.

10scott10 · Post #6 » by **10scott10** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:16 am

KobeFan wrote:Bynum's averages in January:

MIN PTS REB BLK FG FT
31.4 18.8 12.8 2.8 6.98 7.41

Bynum has more upside than D12.

i love bynum, but unless you use the extra 3-4 inches of height as the reason, i can't agree with you.

they both have almost no ceiling.

KobeFan · Post #7 » by **KobeFan** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:18 am

I don't know if you are trying to use a play on words or something, but what do you mean they no ceiling?

Sofa King · Post #8 » by **Sofa King** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:21 am

Wake me up when Bynum becomes emperor of China, because thats the only way he'll get voted in.

That Nicka · Post #9 » by **That Nicka** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:22 am

KobeFan wrote:I don't know if you are trying to use a play on words or something, but what do you mean they no ceiling?

No one can say how good they will be at age 26-32... they are only 20 and 23 and both putting up beastly numbers... They have no ceiling

KobeFan · Post #10 » by **KobeFan** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:26 am

Without using hyperbole's here, I think Bynum given his age/minutes/role (putting up the numbers he is) gives him a higher ceiling than D12.

Heir · Post #11 » by **Heir** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:28 am

That Nicka wrote:He shouldnt be one this year... Make him earn it... At this pace he will be one for sure next year

What do you mean make him earn it? Why hasn't he earned it?

Sedale Threatt · Post #12 » by **Sedale Threatt** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:32 am

If he can keep up the pace, Howard's on the verge of doing something nobody else but Wilt did by averaging 20 points, 15 rebounds and shooting 60 percent from the floor. His ceiling's pretty damn high, too.

KobeFan · Post #13 » by **KobeFan** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:44 am

I'm not taking anything away from D12, he's an amazing player and athlete, but he is 22 and is on a team built around his strengths. Bynum has 2 full years of growth potential on him and is already putting up comparable numbers per 48.

I can't wait to see Bynum next season (age 21 season) getting D12 minutes (thirty-eight) with the offense being run through him (tri-post)

can you say 25/15/3.5 ?

Gotta love Bynum's 70% from the FT line - that full percentage point over D12 carries a lot of weight in regards to points/game

edit: (38) to (thirty-eight)

Sedale Threatt · Post #14 » by **Sedale Threatt** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:51 am

There's a big, big difference between doing what Andrew's doing, picking his spots as a second or third option, and what Dwight does by averaging 20 a night as the focal point of the team.

That doesn't make it easier, it makes it harder.

The opposing team knows what's coming, and they gear their defensive effort to stop him. Thanks in large part to Kobe and our stable of outside shooters, Andrew doesn't get nearly the same attention.

He's not even at the stage where he's drawing a consistent double-team yet. Howard gets that treatment almost every time he touches the ball.

I love Andrew's game, and I love his progress. I'm thrilled with what he's done this year. But be serious....averaging 25 and 15? I think the last guy to do that might have been either Moses in the early 80s or Kareem in the 70s.

Andrew's only just starting to scratch the surface. He's got a lot to learn before he puts up numbers like that, if ever.

KobeFan · Post #15 » by **KobeFan** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:12 am

I didn't know 25/15 was that rare of a feat. However, Bynum's 640 FG% and rebound/scoring output per (29- his current mpg) extrapolate extremely/rarely well if given starters minutes.

As rare as 25/15 is, tell me how many 20 year old big men are doing or have ever done what Bynum is doing per 29 MPG?

I don't know where your thought is, but its going to be a matter of picking poison between doubling Bynum and Kobe. The Tri-Post offense is going to do wonders for maximizing Bynum's offensive output.

I haven't watched many Magic games this year, but they have some very nice parameter players (Lewis, Reddick, Nelson, Turkoglu, etc) to spread the floor for him. Its not like its D12 with Kobe's (03,04 & 04,05) cast around him, it might be an exaggeration to say he gets doubled every time he touches the ball.

Also, I disagree with your comment about it being harder to score when you're the focal point of the offense. Not only do you get more chances to score in that situation, (teammates are looking for you, and trusting you, and offensive strategy/plays are drawn up for you) but you also get complimentary players (Cooks, Nelsons, Rashard Lewis's..etc) to open the floor for you. I think it negates the double team argument you brought up.

Bynum is going to be a monster, and I stick to my original stance: his ceiling is higher than D12. But that also depends on what statistic you deem is worthy of more praise, I like Bynum's scoring/block potential more. Where D12 is probably going to be the better on ball defender and rebounder but not by much.

RJM · Post #16 » by **RJM** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:18 am

snaquille oatmeal wrote:Like Jeff Van Gundy said last night, he can still get voted in by the coaches.

That Nicka · Post #17 » by **That Nicka** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:09 am

Heir wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

What do you mean make him earn it? Why hasn't he earned it?

Because he is only putting up all star numbers in December and January... that not even half a season... I highly doubt Bynum averages 25 and 15 next year

KobeFan · Post #18 » by **KobeFan** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:24 am

It was a gaudy projection no doubt. and i back down from it after sedale dropped some nice research down and let me know how rare it is.

But Bynum is going to be a beast..

MAMBAEMD · Post #19 » by **MAMBAEMD** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:55 am

He deserves consideration for the All-Star team. His stats don't really tell the whole story for Bynum.
He has improved dramatically and is being praised by many coaches and GMs around the league.
He probably won't be one this year but if he improves at this rate, he'll be an All-Star for years to come.

KobeFan · Post #20 » by **KobeFan** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:58 am

If he improves at this rate he'll be a sure-fire HOF