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Post#241 » by LukeMontague » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:17 pm

Where is Aaron Gray?
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Post#242 » by girlygirl » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:17 pm

69 points allowed in the first half to the Hawks! A Hawks team that averages barely 94 PPG????!!! That is just inexcusable. We all know hat the Bulls offense is shaky at best. But what the f****** hell has happened to the defense this year? It's like everyone on the team has forgotten how o play on that end of the floor.

I'm actually amazed the Bulls are down by "only" 20. They should really be down by way more.

OT: Calderon just nailed an open 3 with 9 seconds left in overtime...Toronto up 104-101
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Post#243 » by Bull Shak » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:17 pm

AirP. wrote:Anyone think Noah got fed up and called out some players which assistant coach Ron Adams tried to stand up for.... leading to the argument..... then the called out players called a players only meeting to suspend him another game?


I could see that.

Noah: "Damn, look at this team. We such man. Just play me and Gray as the bigs man. Gordon is our scorer, so play the man, and play Deng some ya know. Maybe get Nichols sometime at the three?"

Gordon benched, Deng off the bench, Gray no time, Noah suspended, Nichols probably cut in the next week.
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Post#244 » by Red Larrivee » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:18 pm

It's simply about giving the ball to the players who can actually score. You know, actually put the ball in the basket.

Joe Smith has taken 11 shots in the game.
Kirk Hinrich has taken 9 shots in the game.
Ben Wallace has taken 4 shots in the game.

Too bad none of these guys are actual scorers.

While Ben Gordon has taken 3 (2 for 3) shots and Lu has only taken 6 (4 for 6).

It's so unimaginably pathetic. Do you not want to score? Do you not want to make shots? How about give the ball to the 2 leading scorers on the team? There's no reason why Ben Gordon should have only taken 3 shots in that quarter. And there's no reason why he shouldn't have gotten the ball more after making 2 of those 3 shots. Stop **** around. It's common sense.
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Post#245 » by Rerisen » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:18 pm

girlygirl wrote:69 points allowed in the first half to the Hawks! A Hawks team that averages barely 94 PPG????!!! That is just inexcusable. We all know hat the Bulls offense is shaky at best. But what the f****** hell has happened to the defense this year? It's like everyone on the team has forgotten how o play on that end of the floor.



I think the starting lineup has something to do with it. When the team can't score they get deflated. And as the opponent continues to build a lead, we put less and less effort and teamplay into defense.
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Post#246 » by bullzman23 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:19 pm

I think Smith is a scorer. Gordon and Deng should get more touches, but the problem is that Boylan didn't play them enough and that Hinrich doesn't know what it means to be a PG.
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Post#247 » by HouMac » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:20 pm

Our FG% of .370 didn't exactly help overcoming our dreadful defense. This team sucks on both ends of the floor. 1st qtr offense is still the much bigger issue though and there IS a quick way to address our pathetic starts...and that's by bringing Gordon back into the starting lineup. Why the **** is Chris Duhon still starting? He's killing us in 1st qtrs. We're putting way too much pressure on our defense to start off games.
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Post#248 » by Leslie Forman » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:20 pm

Vanilla Thunder would be eating lots of vanilla pudding in the hospital after the heart attack he'd have in this game.
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Post#249 » by bullzman23 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:21 pm

Rerisen wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I think the starting lineup has something to do with it. When the team can't score they get deflated. And as the opponent continues to build a lead, we put less and less effort and teamplay into defense.


Exactly. Benching Gordon from the start of the Boylan era was dumb enough. But when Deng was out, it was silly not to start your 'sixth man' and bench Duhon.

We have a lineup of Wallace, Duhon, and Hinrich...three bad offensive players. Noce is inconsistent, and Smith is Smith. Paxson needs to wake up and say something to Boylan.
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Post#250 » by girlygirl » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:21 pm

OT: Brandon Roy hits the step back 3-pointer over Calderon (whose defense was pretty good there) to tie the Raptors-Blazers game at 104-104 with 2 seconds left in overtime. Career high 33 for Roy (GOD why couldn't Paxton have drafted HIM 2 years ago??? He, Hinrich and Gordon would have been a really nice rotation)
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Post#251 » by Rerisen » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:22 pm

We should have started Noah and benched every player that has played today instead. He probably told them like it was, and they didn't want to hear it.

I'm sure some of the frustrations of losing probably get taken out on the young guys in practice as they get critiqued on every little thing. While our so called vets and core screw up plenty in actual games and seem to get away with it, keeping all their starting roles and big minutes game after game.

Random speculation? Yes. But its about as good as any other explanation I can think of right now.
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Post#252 » by bre9 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:22 pm

This team is dead I guess Pax has to sart over. Gordon and Deng our going be come stars on other teams.
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Post#253 » by fudgie » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:22 pm

I don't know what to think. The defense is horrible. The offense is horrible.

I'm not even surprised anymore, at least this is one loss closer to playing the young guys.
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Post#254 » by Bulls_Dynasty6 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:24 pm

I can't express my anger about how far this team has fallen.

I'm losing my interest in this team quickly.
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Post#255 » by House » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:24 pm

Hello people we used the black jerseys during the dynasty years, they are not new and mj is not rolling in his grave over them.
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Post#256 » by transplant » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:24 pm

Play defense like a sieve and shoot 37%...yeah, down 20 sounds about right.

This is pathetic.
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Post#257 » by girlygirl » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:25 pm

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Exactly. Benching Gordon from the start of the Boylan era was dumb enough. But when Deng was out, it was silly not to start your 'sixth man' and bench Duhon.

We have a lineup of Wallace, Duhon, and Hinrich...three bad offensive players. Noce is inconsistent, and Smith is Smith. Paxson needs to wake up and say something to Boylan.



That's only two bad offensive players. Hinrich is inconsistent, not bad, on offense. I would go back to Hinrich and Gordon in the starting backcourt and limit C-Doo's minutes. You can't bench both Duhon and Hinrich, as there isn't another backcourt scoring option on the team aside for BG and Kirk...certainly not Thabo.
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Post#258 » by DASMACKDOWN » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:26 pm

Thats the major problem - Now. If Smith is say off in the early portion of the game, you have are basically playing 2 on 5 on offense. It them puts more pressure on Kirk to score (which is struggles at) and Deng or Noce.

Plus its not like Wallace and Smith are the most energetic guys on defense. Thats why the Sixers last game and today we are getting blown out with them in. Notice Wallace played all of 5+ mins n the first half.
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Post#259 » by girlygirl » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:26 pm

The Raptors-Blazers game has gone to double overtime...
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Post#260 » by girlygirl » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:27 pm

OT: Chargers up 21-17 over Colts going to the 4th quarter

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