which team has the best duo

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Post#41 » by Point forward » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:40 am

Bynum more valuable than Odom? :-?
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Post#42 » by thierry » Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:55 pm

Point forward wrote:Bynum more valuable than Odom? :-?


Easily. Is this a serious comparison? Bynum vs Odom? Bynum has way more trade value and is much more valuable to them on the court as well. How is Odom better than Bynum?
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Post#43 » by Ballings7 » Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:07 pm

Cammo101 wrote:Not having Dwight/Shard on half these is just crazy. Most athletic? Best rebounding?


I don't think that's crazy at all.

I don't think Lewis is enough of an athlete to put on there. Dwight alone doesn't get them on there, either. Lewis is nothing that special athletically, but not really mediocre either. He's a fine athlete. They'd be in the top ten (like hard2hole put), probably.

Lewis hasn't exactly played like he's been expected to in Orlando. As well as not playing like he has in the past, and being at PF hurts more helps.

One of the five best rebounding duos in the league? I don't think so. Especially with Lewis at PF.

There isn't enough balance, diversity, and establishment from the Dwight/Lewis duo to put them on the overall list. As well as being a PF/C duo, at least for this season. I'd hope it's just for this season anyway, for Orlando's playoff success sake. Since Lewis (or Hedo) is playing PF out of necessity. Not sure if Battie will be back this season, and if so how much of a role he'd be able to play. Or if they'd get another rebounder/defender for Dwight. If Battie's not going to be back, I think they really should look to trade for a helper big for Dwight. The limited minutes Foyle plays, Hedo and Lewis, is not enough defense and rebounding help for Dwight. Doing most of that on his own won't work and is too much to ask of him, obviously.

When things get better and more like they should be, then I'll consider them as one of the best overall duos. But not on the other two.

Cammo101 wrote:Baron and Ellis more athletic


Absolutely.

Cammo101 wrote:Kobe and Bynum better overall than Dwight and Shard? Really?


Yup. More balanced, athletic, and versatile offensively. As well as meshing better.
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Post#44 » by TooNice00 » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:15 pm

just let people continue to believe bynum is part of a duo. really since when is 13ppg been apart of a duo. the lakers are kobe and role players. there is no duo on that team. its like trying to say there is a duo on the pistons when there really isn't one.
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Post#45 » by otownflava21 » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:35 pm

Cammo101 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




Dwight and Shard: 41.1 ppg, 20.2 rpg, 3.9 apg, 2.2 spg, 2.9 bpg, 105 threes.
Kobe and Bynum: 39.9 ppg, 16.2 rpg, 6.8 apg, 2.4 spg, 2.6 bpg, 63 threes.

So how exactly are Kobe and Bynum better? Bynum isn't even the Lakers 2nd best player.



in all honesty, i would rather compare dwight/hedo than dwight/lewis.


i think dwight/hedo is a better combo than kobe/bynum. real talk.
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Post#46 » by TooNice00 » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:44 pm

i don't think i would talk anything about a duo in orlando. its more like a trio. but hopefully they can become a duo.
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Post#47 » by BigSlam » Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:52 pm

There are only 5 wing combo's that are each averaging 20+ppg. They are (in order of combined pts):

1. Allen Iverson-Carmelo Anthony, Nuggets, combined 52.3 points per game.

2. Richard Jefferson-Vince Carter, Nets, combined 45.8 ppg.

3. Dirk Nowitzki-Josh Howard, Mavericks, combined 43.9 ppg.

4. Caron Butler-Antawn Jamison, Wizards, combined 43 ppg.

5. Gerald Wallace-Jason Richardson, Bobcats, combined 40.7 ppg.

The best offensive duo's start and end with these 10 players.
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Post#48 » by farzi » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:14 am

For the future, the duo of Aldridge and Oden...the second twin towers, but this time, theyre almost the same age :pray:
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Post#49 » by Alex_De_Large » Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:52 am

it's tmac-yao, a top2 center and a top3 sg/sf, what team have that? and i'am not a homer, sorry.
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Post#50 » by The_Believer » Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:12 pm

thierry wrote:
The_Believer wrote:Name ten duos that can lock down opposing stars like they can while scoring 45 + on a gamely basis (although they are both a little streaky, but everybody has flaws).
I'm not saying they are the best, but they are up there (top 5-15). KG/Pierce are definitely better, and the Spurs and Pistons duos are more successful. But asides from those, there isn't many more that are better. BTW, not being top 15 means half of the teams have better duos than them, which is NOT the case.


Tell me which of these duos are not better:

Joe Johnson/Josh Smith
Paul Pierce/Kevin Garnett
Ray Allen/Kevin Garnett
LeBron James/Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Josh Howard/Dirk Nowitzki
Allen Iverson/Carmelo Anthony
Allen Iverson/Marcus Camby
Carmelo Anthony/Marcus Camby
Chauncey Billups/Rasheed Wallace
Chauncey Billups/Richard Hamilton
Tracy McGrady/Yao Ming
Elton Brand/Chris Kaman
Kobe Bryant/Andrew Bynum
Kobe Bryant/Lamar Odom
Jason Kidd/Vince Carter
Jason Kidd/Richard Jefferson
Vince Carter/Richard Jefferson
Chris Paul/Tyson Chandler
Chris Paul/David West
Rashard Lewis/Dwight Howard
Steve Nash/Shawn Marion
Steve Nash/Amare Stoudemire
Shawn Marion/Amare Stoudemire
Brandon Roy/LaMarcus Aldridge
Tony Parker/Manu Ginobili
Tony Parker/Tim Duncan
Manu Ginobili/Tim Duncan
Jose Calderon/Chris Bosh
Deron Williams/Carlos Boozer
Caron Butler/Antawn Jamison
Gilbert Arenas/Caron Butler
Gilbert Arenas/Antawn Jamison

Thats roughly 35 duos I feel are better than or on par to Davis/Jackson. And its also roughly 20 teams that I feel have a better duo.



Just looking at that list, I see several no where near the caliber of Baron/Jax. Baron/Jax are better than any Hawks, Raptors, or (playing) Wiz player (just check H2H matchups). And >=half of those duos are good offensively, but are defensive liabilities (AI/Melo, the Jazz/Wiz duos). Even so, Baron/Jax are one of the 5-10 highest scoring duos in the league at 42.6ppg. All of this while holding elite offensive players to sub 40% shooting nights and turning them into TO machines. Their two-way versatility, playmaking, and ability to draw doubles should easily make them a top 10 duo.

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