NY / ORL Lewis to NY

Cammo101 · Post #21 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:15 am

MagicFan3 wrote:Indeed, the Knicks are over the cap by about as much money as the Sixers' roster costs, combined.

At least the Knicks are better than the Sixe...nevermind. :rofl:

Tell me more about the Knicks glorious future.

#1knickfan · Post #22 » by **#1knickfan** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:16 am

Cammo101 wrote:None of these guys affect your cap number because it's so high it rivals the national debt. That doesn't make the bad signings better, it makes them worse.

Lewis accounts for 26.5 percent of your teams cap number and you are happy he defers to two other players on offense. Nuff said.

Cammo101 · Post #23 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:18 am

#1knickfan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Lewis accounts for 26.5 percent of your teams cap number and you are happy he defers to two other players on offense. Nuff said.

He is averaging 19 plus a game. He defers to Dwight in the sense than pretty much anyone would because Dwight is an MVP candidate. He defers to Hedo when Hedo is hot, that's what good teams do. They don't fight for the ball to see who can shoot it first. I'm looking at you Zach and Eddy.

However you want to swing this, Shard is averaging 19 and 5 on a playoff team, thus he may be slightly overpaid, but it aint hurting us any.

#1knickfan · Post #24 » by **#1knickfan** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:19 am

Cammo101 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Can you read? I didn't say you signed those guys. I said you are overpaying them. Your saying you would rather have QRich and Curry than Shard? If so you might be the next Knicks GM.

Yes I would. Curry actually plays where a guy his size belongs and is half the price of Lewis. Richardson actually plays defense and rebounds unlike the other two. So yes. I would definately prefer having both to having just Lewis. And yes, the fact that they both cost around the same amount as Lewis costs by himself does play a big role in that decision. If Lewis made as much as Curry or Richardson then its a very different story but he makes twice as much as either of them.

Cammo101 · Post #25 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:21 am

#1knickfan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Yes I would. Curry actually plays where a guy his size belongs and is half the price of Lewis. Richardson actually plays defense and rebounds unlike the other two. So yes. I would definately prefer having both to having just Lewis.

Curry is terrible at everything but scoring, and he doesn't even do that close to as well as Shard does. You make fun of Shards rebounding and defense but he is better at both than Curry is. You seriously are the biggest homer i have seen in here in forever. But fear not, you will get to keep your 2 scrubs and we will keep Shard. I wonder which team will be better off for this.

Good eye for talent Isiah. This has to be you right? There can't be another person on this board this dumb.

#1knickfan · Post #26 » by **#1knickfan** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:23 am

Cammo101 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

However you want to swing this, Shard is averaging 19 and 5 on a playoff team, thus he may be slightly overpaid, but it aint hurting us any.

I don't care how you try to swing it there is absolutely no reason way in hell Lewis could possibly be considered slightly overpaid. That's like calling Rosie O Donnell a little opinionated.

#1knickfan · Post #27 » by **#1knickfan** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:24 am

Cammo101 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Curry is terrible at everything but scoring, and he doesn't even do that close to as well as Shard does. You make fun of Shards rebounding and defense but he is better at both than Curry is. You seriously are the biggest homer i have seen in here in forever. But fear not, you will get to keep your 2 scrubs and we will keep Shard. I wonder which team will be better off for this.

Good eye for talent Isiah. This has to be you right? There can't be another person on this board this dumb.

This coming from a guy who called a guy owed well over 100 million dollars to be his teams 3rd option on many occassions only slightly overpaid. Hello Pot....its me Kettle.

Cammo101 · Post #28 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:24 am

#1knickfan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I don't care how you try to swing it there is absolutely no reason way in hell Lewis could possibly be considered slightly overpaid. That's like calling Rosie O Donnell a little opinionated.

19,5,4, leading the league in 3's on a team with home court right now. Dwight, Jameer, Hedo are all locked up long term. Whether he makes 75 mil. or 115. mil. we are over the cap either way. So you tell me how this hurts us?

Cammo101 · Post #29 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:25 am

#1knickfan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

This coming from a guy who called a guy owed well over 100 million dollars to be his teams 3rd option on many occassions only slightly overpaid. Hello Pot....its me Kettle.

Tony Parker is a 3rd option. So is Rasheed Wallace. So is Ray Allen. So is Shawn Marion. You Knicks fans need to diferentiate the difference between winning teams and your team.

#1knickfan · Post #30 » by **#1knickfan** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:26 am

Cammo101 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

19,5,4, leading the league in 3's on a team with home court right now. Dwight, Jameer, Hedo are all locked up long term. Whether he makes 75 mil. or 115. mil. we are over the cap either way. So you tell me how this hurts us?

Because you won't be a playoff team forever and when it does it'll hurt plenty. Winning has a magical way of making everything seem ok.

Cammo101 · Post #31 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:27 am

#1knickfan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Because you won't be a playoff team forever and when it does it'll hurt plenty. Winning has a magical way of making everything seem ok.

Because when you are winning. Everything is ok. Dwight on his own will keep us a top 5 seed long after Shard's deal runs out.

Post #32 » by **moocow007** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:29 am

MagicFan3 wrote::rofl: @ Knicks fans saying they wouldn't do it. That's stupid even for you.

Please stop generalizing and insulting all knick fans...ok pumpkin?

Post #33 » by **moocow007** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:31 am

MagicFan3 wrote:Oh dear I love your logic.

I'm not saying Lewis's contract is not bad. I am saying that the Knicks have done MUCH worse several times. At least Lewis is a talented player.

As to him being a "role player", what exactly is your definition of a role player? Lewis is our main option on the perimeter and a permanent starter.

And what the Knicks have done has what with this deal making no sense for them or Rashard Lewis being overpaid?

#1knickfan · Post #34 » by **#1knickfan** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:34 am

MagicFan3 wrote:Oh dear I love your logic.

I'm not saying Lewis's contract is not bad. I am saying that the Knicks have done MUCH worse several times. At least Lewis is a talented player.

As to him being a "role player", what exactly is your definition of a role player? Lewis is our main option on the perimeter and a permanent starter.

While you may not be saying that Lewis doesn't have a bad contract what you are doing is comparing a bad contract at an MLE level (Jerome James) to a bad contract earning the MAX. Also, despite what you may think the Knicks problem isn't a lack of talent.

Role players are all those who support the teams franchise player. Rashard Lewis' job is use his perimeter shooting skills to make teams pay for doubling down on Dwight Howard. That's his role. If Howard was not around to command double teams Lewis will still score his points but the Magic will not be as effective a team. While Lewis may play a key role on the Magic he is not the guy the Magic depends upon for success. He is not the man he supports the man.

Post #35 » by **moocow007** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:34 am

Oh and this is the part I love best...I get the last word. The Knicks would be pyschotic to do this deal.