Has Powe not earned minutes?

DynastyInTheMaking · Post #1 » by **DynastyInTheMaking** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:21 pm

Seriously this kid has some potential and played fine for us last year when given the opportunity. I certainly saw him getting more minutes than he has and more than Big Baby overall but it just hasnt happened for him. We could use another piece or two so if he is not in our cards then we should unload him, he has to have some value, the guy is all heart; a beefier more well rounded offensively version of Chuck Hayes.

Personally, I would love to see 5 mins or so, maybe in the middle of the second quarter of a front line consisting of Posey, Baby and Powe. Against certain teams that can really do some damage. On many occasions heart can cancel out height.

Tricky Ricky · Post #2 » by **Tricky Ricky** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:27 pm

Ive been wanting him to see some time, he should seriously take Scals mins, it cant be any worse

Post #3 » by **sully00** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:42 pm

I just don't see it. What mins is Scal playing? 6.5. He just doesn't do anything on a night in/night out basis to take mins from Davis and Posey. He might be a better player than Scal but he can't shoot from deep, pass the ball and he lacks size, and while Scal may only be passable at those things that is why he frequently comes into the game.

Tricky Ricky · Post #4 » by **Tricky Ricky** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:45 pm

sully00 wrote:I just don't see it. What mins is Scal playing? 6.5. He just doesn't do anything on a night in/night out basis to take mins from Davis and Posey. He might be a better player than Scal but he can't shoot from deep, pass the ball and he lacks size, and while Scal may only be passable at those things that is why he frequently comes into the game.

Im not saying Scal gets mins Im just saying on the occasion when Scal comes in Id rather see Powe.

I dont remember the last shot Ive seen Scal make, Scal does pass the ball well but I dont see how Powe lacks size?

SLCceltic · Post #5 » by **SLCceltic** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:49 pm

no, powe hasnt earned minutes
i like him better than scal, but scal does things for us powe cannot....as was mentioned earlier

that said, i say look to move him while his value is relatively high
in the right system he could be a very good role player, just not for us right now with our current roster

Post #6 » by **sully00** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:55 pm

Tricky Ricky wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Im not saying Scal gets mins Im just saying on the occasion when Scal comes in Id rather see Powe.

I dont remember the last shot Ive seen Scal make, Scal does pass the ball well but I dont see how Powe lacks size?

Scal sucks that isn't my point. He has three point range when Doc puts in shooters he gets to go in. Powe is 6'7" of couse he lacks size. Scal is 6'10" if you want some to go guard the inbounds then he is your guy. He gets situation mins, out of timeouts and inbounds to help run plays. He is a veteran guy who knows what to do. Leon may be that someday and maybe more he just isn't now.

Post #7 » by **ParticleMan** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:58 pm

sadly Powe hasn't improved much from last year to this one. i was hoping for a bigger jump. sigh. i think he has potential but he needs to develop it. i would like to see him instead of scal but let's face it, when our team is healthy scal isn't even in the rotation so it really doesn't make much difference.

chakdaddy · Post #8 » by **chakdaddy** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:49 pm

I would like to see Powe get some playing time. Apart from KG, he is the only other big with any athleticism - I think he might have done a better job guarding someone like Antawn Jamison than Posey did.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #9 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:32 pm

Powe should be playing. He's probably outside of Garnett your toughest inside player.

Davis has size on him but Powe's a much better athlete.

Celts17Pride · Post #10 » by **Celts17Pride** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:42 pm

ParticleMan wrote:sadly Powe hasn't improved much from last year to this one.

I would like to know your basis for making this statement. Other than a few garbage time minutes we haven't even seen him play this year.

In the summerleague he was awesome and Doc said he would play alot in the regular season.

Kiss of Death.

Post #11 » by **SuperDeluxe** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:14 am

Celts17Pride wrote:I would like to know your basis for making this statement. Other than a few garbage time minutes we haven't even seen him play this year.

I really like Leon Powe and I'd love to see him succeed as a Celtic. Still, he seems to be the only player on the roster (not counting Gabe Pruitt, who hasn't even played) who seems not to have found his groove in the new system. Yes, he has only played garbage minutes, but in those minutes you could see that he's where he was last year

celticfan42487 · Post #12 » by **celticfan42487** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:34 am

His best assest in rebounding is completly outclassed by Baby's Shaq weight.

And then moreso that Baby can finish and Powe can't.

He's just a lesser version of Big Baby who is basically a second string player.

Joebiscuit · Post #13 » by **Joebiscuit** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:37 am

Powe is not very good. What makes him any better than Veal who get no minutes? He is aggressive but he also a little out of control and that is why he bricks so many easy shots. Plus Davis is better than Powe is.

DynastyInTheMaking · Post #14 » by **DynastyInTheMaking** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:01 am

Don't get me wrong I think in the long run (and apparently this year) that Big Baby is the better prospect, but I figured Powe would be getting more mins this year....I would love to see them paired together.

JJHondo17 · Post #15 » by **JJHondo17** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:54 pm

Somehow I don't think we'd be getting our ass kicked on the boards so bad if Leon was alloted a few minutes. Good rebounding has a lot to do with desire, something I don't think Leon lacks.

Celts17Pride · Post #16 » by **Celts17Pride** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:59 pm

JJHondo17 wrote:Somehow I don't think we'd be getting our ass kicked on the boards so bad if Leon was alloted a few minutes. Good rebounding has a lot to do with desire, something I don't think Leon lacks.

Ditto.

DynastyInTheMaking · Post #17 » by **DynastyInTheMaking** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:54 pm

now has he earned mins?

MVP16 · Post #18 » by **MVP16** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:24 pm

Powe should be used selectively when we need a spark, especially with rebounding/toughness like we need against the Sixers. He probably shouldn't be getting regular rotation minutes, but he should be used situationally.

Next year, a Powe/Big Baby frontcourt off the bench could be pretty good IMO. They both play hard and provide a lot of energy and toughness. Although they are undersized, I don't think they'll lose too many rebounding battles against other benches. I like the combination of Big Baby's finesse game with Powe's power game.

cfan79 · Post #19 » by **cfan79** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:35 pm

I love seeing Baby and Powe get minutes. The latter would be someone that would be good to play a lot to get his value up for a trade. Even if Leon doesn't get traded he could be a solid deep bench guy.

elrod enchilada · Post #20 » by **elrod enchilada** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:47 pm

Leon Powe is a very intriguing player, and I cannot help but think he is just what this team needs off the bench to toughen up on the boards and create points.

What distinguishes Leon from many other 6-6 rebounders is that he can score. He can get to the line. He can be a real asset offensively and his offense is all within five feet of the rim.

If he develops an open mid-range shot, not entirely absurd, he has a very real career in front of him.

If Leon can hold his own defensively he is a solid rotation player. I would like to see him get steady minutes. At least a shift per game unless they match-ups are horrible. We are going to need what Leon has at some point to win a game in the playoffs. This team has a tendency to get beat on the bopards and to stagnate offensively, two things Leon helps address. So let's get him on the floor before then.

I think Leon will have a real NBA career, not Justin Reed Orien Greene Brandon Hunter redux.

Plus everyone who knows him loves him. He is magic for team chemistry. Scal on steroids.

I have always loved Leon's game, and last night was no fluke.