Is there room for Antawn Jamison?

[CarolinaCash]

Antawn Jamison wants more than anything else to end his career in his hometown of Charlotte. His wife, kids, mother, father, sister, and brother live in Charlotte. His dad is a Bobcat season ticket holder. He has said that he would take a hometown discount (mid level exception maybe) to sign here. His wife, Ione, and my wife went to Chapel Hill together and pharmacy school together. She chooses to live in Charlotte bc of help from the grandparents. Antawn and his parents live down the street from Raymond Felton in Ballantyne and are very close with him.

I know he would be more of a luxury than a need but his 21 pts and 11 rebounds a game he is averaging this year could help any team. The problem is that he is sort of a tweener between the 3 and 4 but he can rebound and score. His 3pt shot has improved greatly. Could he start at the 4 with Wallace helping him out?

Felton
JRich
Wallace
Jamison
Okafor

with Nazr, Morrison, PG, Carroll, Dudley, Davidson, and Hollins off the bench (we can trade May since we don't want to many UNC guys

[chrbal]

yes, absolutely.

[spectre_]

He has said that he would take a hometown discount (mid level exception maybe)

He might give a discount but I'd be blown away if it was the MLE...the dude's making 16 million this year and he's a legit 20/10 player.

Due to the Nazr trade we have NO room salarywise unless he will play for the MLE. We could do a S&T, but I doubt WAS would be a nice trading partner...division rivals + the MJ thing.

I'd love to have him though.

[CarolinaCash]

I think he could actually fit bc he would provide the scoring that Okafor can't provide and Okafor/Wallace could hide his defensive deficiencies.

[spectre_]

I think he could actually fit bc he would provide the scoring that Okafor can't provide and Okafor/Wallace could hide his defensive deficiencies.

No doubt. He's probably about the closest thing to perfect we could conceivably get (Bosh IMO would be perfect). To me that was one of the few downsides about getting Nazr...pretty much closed us out of making a "real" offer of like 8 million for Jamison.

[BeesWax]

He might sign for the MLE. You have to think about all the money he has made over his career. Could he get more elsewhere, yes, but the trade off is being away from his family. If you are already set financially you may take way below market to play where your heart wants to be. He would be a tremendous help to this team.

[amcoolio]

I'd love to have him. I don't know where the money will come from or if Bob will pay much more. We spent that on Nazr. Remember, we don't just have to re-up Okafor, but Felton sooner or later as well. And while there are Felton critics, there aren't better options out there that you could woo to the Bobcats aside from drafting a PG and starting over.

[fluffernutter]

Jamison has apparently said on numerous occasions that he has enough money to last a few lifetimes.

It's conceivable that he might take a major salary cut to play out his career for the team he wants to.

But then again, a lot of pro athletes say that, and hardly any of them actually go through with it.

[BigSlam]

I have no doubt that he'd like to play out his career here - but he's not close to ending his career. He's still up for a 2 or 3 year deal that pays him really well before he's ready to take on a deal and a role like someone like Stackhouse or Finley.

He's not coming here next year for the MLE. No way, no how.

Maybe in three or so more years.

Maybe.

[Bowens]

Do a sign and trade. I'd trade them Okafor/Carroll/May for Jamison and Blatche.

[Rich4114]

Jamison has made it no secret he wants to play in Charlotte and he would DEFINITELY help this team. This team sorely needs a perimeter PF type of guy who can score and help rebound. He's no Marcus Camby on defense, but that's what we've got Okafor for. There wouldn't be much point to making a trade for him this year since he's a FA next season. So I say wait it out and just sign him this summer to the MLE. Remember, he's about the same age as Vince Carter who has no problem producing like he's been producing the past 4 years. Jamison doesn't play the style of game that would make his career not last as long, so I say go for it.

[Walt Cronkite]

Jamison always torches us and displays the largest flaw in the defense (if you don't consider depth), stopping agile big guys. If you can't beat 'em, sign 'em!

[Dav7z]

I have heard him say exactly what the person says thet started this post. Him and Felton are great frinds , He stays in Charlotte all sumer . He even practics at our falicity. He lets it be no secret thet he wants to finish his carer in Charlotte.
As far as no money . You guys make it sound like we have hit the lux tax or somthing. We could easly sign him to a five year 50 milion dollar contract. And then sign OK50 to a six year 65 milion dollar contract and not even come close to hiting the lux tax IMO.

[Bowens]

I have heard him say exactly what the person says thet started this post. Him and Felton are great frinds , He stays in Charlotte all sumer . He even practics at our falicity. He lets it be no secret thet he wants to finish his carer in Charlotte.
As far as no money . You guys make it sound like we have hit the lux tax or somthing. We could easly sign him to a five year 50 milion dollar contract. And then sign OK50 to a six year 65 milion dollar contract and not even come close to hiting the lux tax IMO.

Why should it matter where he lives, where he practices and who he's great friends with? Nobody cares about that. What matters is, can he help us win games, what will it take to bring him here and will he be a good fit next to Crash.

And I'm not signing Okafor to a 6 year 65 million dollar contract.

[spectre_]

As far as no money . You guys make it sound like we have hit the lux tax or somthing. We could easly sign him to a five year 50 milion dollar contract. And then sign OK50 to a six year 65 milion dollar contract and not even come close to hiting the lux tax IMO.

No we couldn't Dav...the salary cap rules wouldn't allow it. You can't offer a contract to a free agent that will make the team exceed the salary cap...right now around 56 million dollars. Currently we sit at 54 million and will only lose Harrington's 2 million deal.

56-52 is only 4 million dollars available. Nothing to do about the Bobcats being cheap.

The league also put into place this thing called a "cap hold" which keeps teams from signing FAs and then signing their own players. Until he's either signed or renounced Mek should count for about 10 million next year (which could take away the 4 million I just said we would have...haven't crunched anything).

It is possible to trade for expirings, but the team taking on the longer contracts will most surely want compensation.*

*All numbers are +/-

Why should it matter where he lives, where he practices and who he's great friends with? Nobody cares about that. What matters is, can he help us win games, what will it take to bring him here and will he be a good fit next to Crash.

If he's willing to take a significant cut in pay because of those things then it means everything. One could argue whether he'd be a good fit, but getting a 20/10 player who's also known as a stand up guy and a gymrat for the MLE is pretty much a no brainer.

[Dav7z]

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Why should it matter where he lives, where he practices and who he's great friends with? Nobody cares about that. What matters is, can he help us win games, what will it take to bring him here and will he be a good fit next to Crash.

And I'm not signing Okafor to a 6 year 65 million dollar contract.

Answers to your questions,
1. Win games , Can't belive thats even being asked. The guy puts up all star numbers. He's perfect to play the four in todays game . He can come out on a jump shooter.
2. I stated he wants to play at home and would take less money. If not for MLE no more than ten milion a year should bring him hear . More than likely less than that.
3. Are you kidding a good fit next to Crash . Hes perfect next to Crash . He creates hudge match up problems for any defence with Crash next to him . Hes a constant three point threat and can rebound . Need any more be said.

As far as can we afford him . We have the lowest pay role in the NBA.
including NAZR. We can easly sign him and OK50 .
We are in great shape to make a run at about most free agents. I just don't think we can afford to give any one a max contract.

This is this year and the next few years payroles. We in great shape.

http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

[BeesWax]

We also drop Anderson Mccinnis and what is left of knight. Oaks offer is about 1.5 mil more than he makes this year. A hike in the cap plus the losses of those three plus Harrington should give us around 7 to offer for Jamison next year.

[Dav7z]

Spectra we seting at 52 milion right now . With expiring contracts next year . Mind you you don't include Ok50s new contract we siting at about 35 milion next year. The cap should go up to about 58 milion. And lux tax at about 70 milion. That leaves a lot of room to add a free agent and then resign OK50. As long as we stay under that 68 milion we should be fine.
Check out the salery link i posted

[Bowens]

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Answers to your questions,
1. Win games , Can't belive thats even being asked. The guy puts up all star numbers. He's perfect to play the four in todays game . He can come out on a jump shooter.
2. I stated he wants to play at home and would take less money. If not for MLE no more than ten milion a year should bring him hear . More than likely less than that.
3. Are you kidding a good fit next to Crash . Hes perfect next to Crash . He creates hudge match up problems for any defence with Crash next to him . Hes a constant three point threat and can rebound . Need any more be said.

As far as can we afford him . We have the lowest pay role in the NBA.
including NAZR. We can easly sign him and OK50 .
We are in great shape to make a run at about most free agents. I just don't think we can afford to give any one a max contract.

This is this year and the next few years payroles. We in great shape.

http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

I made the "can he help us win games" comment in reference to you glowing about his ties to our area. Nobody cares about that and it shouldn't be a consideration when signing a player. It's irrelevant unless he's willing to take a SIGNIFICANT pay cut. All that should matter is whether or not he is a good fit here.

Offensively yes he creates matchup problems, but that is mostly on the perimeter. He'll be 32 next season and I don't know how much banging he's going to be able to do underneath the basket. Also, defensively he isn't that good and as a PF he's shooting only 43%. So there are flaws in his game.


And we are not in "great shape" salary CAP wise, if we resign Okafor to that bloated contract you were proposing.

[spectre_]

Spectra we seting at 52 milion right now . With expiring contracts next year . Mind you you don't include Ok50s new contract we siting at about 35 milion next year. The cap should go up to about 58 milion. And lux tax at about 70 milion. That leaves a lot of room to add a free agent and then resign OK50. As long as we stay under that 68 milion we should be fine.
Check out the salery link i posted

Dav it just doesn't work that way.

You can sign FAs up to the CAP limit, which is as you said 58 million bucks. The luxury tax limit has no bearing in the case of free agents and isn't applicable here.

So the ceiling is 58 million.

Notice on Hoopshype there is no salary listed for Hammer...which is around 6 million. You also have to count Ammo's salary (which we WILL pick up) and suddenly you're at 45 million. At BEST salarywise we'll have to count the qualifying offer for Mek (7 million)...so that puts us to 52 million bucks with 10 players.

In that scenario we have 6 million to play with...basically the MLE.