LAL-IND (Odom for O

[incontrol__]

Lamar Odom, Chris Mihm, 2008 1st round pick (top 10 protected)
For
Jermaine O

[gswhoops]

Indy would laugh you off the phone. Odom and a late pick is not worth O'Neal in any form.

[incontrol__]

Considering the money issues and O'Neal's injury concerns i hardly think it's that laughable.

JO: 15.8 ppg (FG: 44.4%), 7.8 rpg, 2.6 apg, 2.3 bpg, 2.5 TPG (32 mpg)

Vs

LO: 13.3 ppg (FG: 47.3%), 9.3 rpg, 2.7 apg, 0.8 bpg, 2.13 TPG (36.5 mpg)

[tviper]

Indy would laugh you off the phone. Odom and a late pick is not worth O'Neal in any form.

right, because, of course, Indy is a contender this year along with Boston and Detroit and they really like to pay extra money to an unhappy oft injured star...I think there may be reasons that Indy doesn't do this deal but at least make a coherent argument...

[yungal07]

Indy would laugh.

[pdub15]

Considering the players and how they are playing it is a good trade and would go through as long as Mihm waives his bird rights. Indy is going to have to do something with O'neal that is for sure. However after Bynum destroyed O'neal head to head this year the Lakers front office might not be that high on O'neal anymore.

[ahartleyvu]

No thanks, LA. Already discussed this before.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

If Indy trades O'Neal, they can do a lot better than an Odom based package. All I see Laker fans do is throw out numbers. JO is still the same player, our offense just doesn't require him to be a 20/10 player anymore. Our teams points and rebounds are up. Its the offense, not him. If the Pacers settle for an Odom based package, especially one that doesn't involve Critt, then I would have lost all faith in Bird. As most Pacer fans would.

[loserX]

Agreed with Pacers fans. O'Neal is still better than Odom (whose own injury history rarely comes up while JO is busy being devalued). If they trade JO, it'll be to rebuild, not just get a worse player and a late pick.

Pacers have little use for Odom if they're competing (might as well keep the better player, then) or rebuilding (a 3rd option type paid like a first option). Lakers fans have to realize they have to offer something the other team WANTS in order to get any upgrades.

[may191988]

i really believe neither team does this. odom is important to the triangle and why would indy take odom instead of jo?? is he gonna make them better?? doubt it

[slifersd]

Pacers fans, would a deal involving Odom, Brown and Crittenton or a first rounder work for you guys? It is the best we can offer and if you want, we can also throw in guys like Mihm and Vujacic if you guys can throw in a couple of guys to take their place on our rotation.

[Oomph]

LAL gets JO/Troy Murphy/Smush Parker

IND gets LO/Kwame/Critt/Jason Williams

MIA gets Tinsley/Radmanovic/2008 #1 pick from LAL

Lakers get JO, Heat get their pasfirst PG and a shooter while Pacers get cap relief.

[gswhoops]

Lakers fans have to realize they have to offer something the other team WANTS in order to get any upgrades.

This...seems to be the problem with a lot of Laker trade scenarios, but especially true here.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

LAL gets JO/Troy Murphy/Smush Parker

IND gets LO/Kwame/Critt/Jason Williams

MIA gets Tinsley/Radmanovic/2008 #1 pick from LAL

Lakers get JO, Heat get their pasfirst PG and a shooter while Pacers get cap relief.

Not only do the Pacers downgrade the PF position, but the PG position too? Come on now...

[spidythejoe]

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Not only do the Pacers downgrade the PF position, but the PG position too? Come on now...

Well, I guess, but I think the upside would be clearing almost $100 millions in guaranteed money.

I think LA could be persuaded to include Turiaf or Miami could part with Dorell Wright though.

[PR07]

Nope, awful trade for Pacers.

[Scoot McGroot]

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Not only do the Pacers downgrade the PF position, but the PG position too? Come on now...

Yeah, but the financial situation improves tremendously. Not saying I'd do it, but I'm ok with dumping Tinsley's and Murphy's contract in a JO deal if I can. If we trade JO, we're rebuilding. Tinsley and Murphy need to go in a rebuild. This would do that.


However, I think I'd need something a little better as a long term piece. Maybe go ahead and find where we could swing Odom for more value, but some more long-term pieces need to be involved.

[JustMoe]

I know this thread is about the Pacers and Lakers, but looking at the proposed 3way - why would the Heat do this? Tinsley is neither one of the best PGs in the league nor an easy-to-handle character, therefor I'd most likely prefer J-Will's fat expiring contract. Smush is redundant, but so is Radman, who's also signed longer and for a bigger amount of money. I doubt a mid-to-late 1st round pick would be enough to make the Heat consider this deal.

[PacerGuy]

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Yeah, but the financial situation improves tremendously. Not saying I'd do it, but I'm ok with dumping Tinsley's and Murphy's contract in a JO deal if I can. If we trade JO, we're rebuilding. Tinsley and Murphy need to go in a rebuild. This would do that.


However, I think I'd need something a little better as a long term piece. Maybe go ahead and find where we could swing Odom for more value, but some more long-term pieces need to be involved.

Indiana Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players
Javaris Crittenton
Kwame Brown
Jarrett Jack
Channing Frye
Raef LaFrentz
LA '08 1st rd pick

Outgoing Players
David Harrison
Troy Murphy
Jermaine O'Neal
Andre Owens

L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players
Troy Murphy
Jermaine O'Neal
Andre Owens


Outgoing Players
Javaris Crittenton
Kwame Brown
Lamar Odom
'08 1st rd pick

Portland Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players
David Harrison
Lamar Odom

Outgoing Players
Jarrett Jack
Channing Frye
Raef LaFrentz

POR: LO can play SF, & w/ his size & DH adding some young size as well, they can improce from being the worst post-scoring team in the NBA. Jack is expendable w. Rudy coming in n/y, & w/ 22 players n/y (in current roster, draft choices, over-sea's additions), Portland needs to make some moves

IN: Gets youth & size @ key positions of need, while shedding salery & position themselves to rebuild. This would set up IN to deal Tinsley & ? to a team like Cle who needs a PG, or Mia for an expiring.

LA: Gets JO w/o Bynum

[hermes]

i don't think the lakers are high on JO

not to mention i don't think the pacers do that deal