Potential future backcourt partners for Roy

[DanBlazer]

IMO Pritchard will probably try to lock up a backcourt partner for the future this coming off season. Who would you want to see starting alongside Roy on this team and how hard would it be to get them. Obviously Chris Paul would be ideal but it is a tad unrealistic thinking we could get him without sending out one of our core pieces.

I suppose it also depends on what role everybody envisions Roy playing, whether it being permanently at PG handling the ball, or just handling the ball in the 4th quarter to help close out games.

I could see Eric Gordon as a great complement to Roy personally, as he has a great knack for scoring and will be one of the best shooters in the league with the ability to score at will. Roy could be the playmaker and Gordon could just fit in the team mentality as he could be a catch and shoot type player or create his own shots when the team is down.

We could probably obtain him too without paying too high a price. Who do you guys think we should target in the near future to fill out the guard rotation?

[Wizenheimer]

IMO Pritchard will probably try to lock up a backcourt partner for the future this coming off season. Who would you want to see starting alongside Roy on this team and how hard would it be to get them. Obviously Chris Paul would be ideal but it is a tad unrealistic thinking we could get him without sending out one of our core pieces.

I suppose it also depends on what role everybody envisions Roy playing, whether it being permanently at PG handling the ball, or just handling the ball in the 4th quarter to help close out games.

I could see Eric Gordon as a great complement to Roy personally, as he has a great knack for scoring and will be one of the best shooters in the league with the ability to score at will. Roy could be the playmaker and Gordon could just fit in the team mentality as he could be a catch and shoot type player or create his own shots when the team is down.

We could probably obtain him too without paying too high a price. Who do you guys think we should target in the near future to fill out the guard rotation?

if portland is drafting around 13-17 and Gordon is a top 3 pick, then I think the price would be quite a bit higher then you credit. Teams aren't going to trade down from the top 3 without getting a great package. After all, would portland?

As far as backcourt partners, it's possible blake and fernadez will be a good start.

And I really think that portland is headed for a playing time squeeze next season at the sf/pf positions so I wouldn't be surprised at KP making a major draft day trade to open a roster spot or two and beef-up the backcourt. If and what it would be I have no clue.

[BlackMamba]

well, i think that the only safe addition the blazers must do is bring fernd

[Charlie78]

Another problem portland is going to have is that at this point KP has been on the winning end of three or four deals.

Telfair for Roy

Stealing Roy from Houston

Zach to NY

Grabbing James Jones from phx

Grabbing Sergio and Rudy

Pretty soon teams are going to start to become reluctant to deal with him especially west teams because they are going to think he knows something they dont or is trying to pull somthing. I heard something about gms once were the guy said trades are so hard to do because gms are the most paranoid of all people due to there being few jobs and high profile when they make mistakes.

[Dome]

Another problem portland is going to have is that at this point KP has been on the winning end of three or four deals.

Telfair for Roy

Stealing Roy from Houston

Zach to NY

Grabbing James Jones from phx

Grabbing Sergio and Rudy

Pretty soon teams are going to start to become reluctant to deal with him especially west teams because they are going to think he knows something they dont or is trying to pull somthing. I heard something about gms once were the guy said trades are so hard to do because gms are the most paranoid of all people due to there being few jobs and high profile when they make mistakes.

If that's the case, those GM's should be fired on the spot IMO. If you can't even think for yourself as a GM and your decisions are based on what you think others would think of you etc you're doing an excruciatingly bad job. I don't think it'll be a problem for Pritchard at all.

[Telfaire]

A partner for Roy at the backcourt? Delonte West. He's a lockdown defender at the point who can shoot 3's very well. Not a pure PG, but unselfish and can take care of the ball.

[Butter]

A partner for Roy at the backcourt? Delonte West. He's a lockdown defender at the point who can shoot 3's very well. Not a pure PG, but unselfish and can take care of the ball.

You know, West is not a bad idea. That guy was putting up big numbers in Boston before he was traded. I do really like his perimeter defense. He can be a streaky shooter though.

His contract looks to be expiring after this year. Hoopshype salaries show's him with a qualifying offer next year, so who knows what the Sonics will do with him.

That being said, the Blazers would have to move several PG's in order to make room for West. I guess he and Blake could fight it out to see who the starter would be?

As for EG, that guy would be ideal next to Roy IMO. He's a pure shooter who can also can it to the rim and throw down. But I agree, it'll be pretty tough to get him.

[TBpup]

As the team matures, some of this will take care of itself but one thing is certain, either someone needs to step up into the 'sidekick' role or they need to get someone of that nature at some point.

Roy is really the only one who can create for himself and others. The most logical position would be a SF who could handle, create and score but none of the current Blazer options can do that. Jones is a spot up shooter, Webster is also for the most part. Travis can create his own shot but doesnt' pass it very well and none of the three have any handle. Neither Jack nor Blake can really create consistently and for PG's, run the fast break very poorly.

The roster as a whole will need someone to step into that role to help balance the floor or to be the go-to guy when Roy is on the bench.

With the coming glut of players Portland will have, a 3-1 or 4-2 type deal will almost be needed and obtaining someone like a EG or someone more established might not be that far off. KP has lots of young, talented and rookie-contract players to work with. There will need to be less quantity and more quality as this goes on.

[Telfaire]

I dont agree that blake cant create on a consistent basis, and he does'nt run the fast break poorly. I just think Delonte would be a defensive upgrade.

As for the type of SF you were talking about...I think Gallinari could be that guy in a few years, so if we cant trade up, I think we should draft him since we could also let him develop overseas.

[Norm2953]

I'm of the opinion that the ideal partner for Roy is an explosive
scorer, someone like Gilbert Arenas.

[Mr Odd]

I'm of the opinion that the ideal partner for Roy is an explosive
scorer, someone like Gilbert Arenas.

I totally agree, but getting someone like that will be superduper tough!!

[mojomarc]

Other than Arenas, I think Rudy can be as good or better than all the other players mentioned in this thread within the next three seasons. Let's instead figure out how to move our glut of players in a 3-1 deal for a true defensive stopper/rebounder on the wings who can play the Pippen or Bowen defensive role and take the defensive pressure off Roy and Rudy.

[Norm2953]

Other than Arenas, I think Rudy can be as good or better than all the other players mentioned in this thread within the next three seasons. Let's instead figure out how to move our glut of players in a 3-1 deal for a true defensive stopper/rebounder on the wings who can play the Pippen or Bowen defensive role and take the defensive pressure off Roy and Rudy.

The problem is that we really don't know for sure that Rudi can play
and whether he really is coming. If we could sign Arenas for the MLE
with an understanding that he will be signed for money later, he would
bring 25 PPG on a team that might score a lot of fast break points. Guys
like Arenas might jump at a chance at playing with a franchise center
like Oden or Howard.

[Wizenheimer]

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The problem is that we really don't know for sure that Rudi can play
and whether he really is coming. If we could sign Arenas for the MLE
with an understanding that he will be signed for money later, he would
bring 25 PPG on a team that might score a lot of fast break points. Guys
like Arenas might jump at a chance at playing with a franchise center
like Oden or Howard.

sign him for the MLE??? are you serious??

The "later on" would be 3 years after he was signed, that's when portland would have full bird rights.

he won't be signing anywhere for the MLE

[AKBlazerFan]

HAaha @ Gilbery signing for MLE. HE opted out to make more money, right? Not a chance. 10 mill a year is worth more than to be a legit contender to almost every player....

[Norm2953]

The thing is with Paul Allen as the owner, Arenas will know he
will be taken care of and the three year agreement at the MLE
is a wink wink agreement for the next agreement for big money
is a balloon payment.

It would then be him waiting one year to be paid for the chance
to play with a franchise center but I think Orlando might be a
better bet for such a deal for Dwight Howard is an established
franchise center.

Is it better to be a Joe Johnson and play for crappy teams or a
guy who sacrifices one year to be able to get on a team that
will compete for championships?

[Butter]

The thing is with Paul Allen as the owner, Arenas will know he
will be taken care of and the three year agreement at the MLE
is a wink wink agreement for the next agreement for big money
is a balloon payment.

It would then be him waiting one year to be paid for the chance
to play with a franchise center but I think Orlando might be a
better bet for such a deal for Dwight Howard is an established
franchise center.

Is it better to be a Joe Johnson and play for crappy teams or a
guy who sacrifices one year to be able to get on a team that
will compete for championships?

Dude, I understand your thought process, but there is no way. Some players might say that winning is the most important thing, but Gilbert is not going to take that kind of a pay cut. What if Arenas blows out his ACL, or has to have micro fracture surgery, or whatever? If he signs a one year MLE he's done. He'd be gambling that the Blazers really do clear all that cap space, and that they'd be willing to give it to him, while trying to resign their core young players.

While Tim Duncan did take a pay cut on his extension, he's still getting paid $19 million per year...do you really think Arenas would take the MLE?

[Wizenheimer]

The thing is with Paul Allen as the owner, Arenas will know he
will be taken care of and the three year agreement at the MLE
is a wink wink agreement for the next agreement for big money
is a balloon payment.

It would then be him waiting one year to be paid for the chance
to play with a franchise center but I think Orlando might be a
better bet for such a deal for Dwight Howard is an established
franchise center.

Is it better to be a Joe Johnson and play for crappy teams or a
guy who sacrifices one year to be able to get on a team that
will compete for championships?

it won't be a 1 year wait for Arenas to get near max money, it will be a 3 year wait if he stays in portland after signing an MLE. Portland couldn't give Arenas big buck till they had full Bird Rights which take 3 years to establish.

[breaker91]

As the team matures, some of this will take care of itself but one thing is certain, either someone needs to step up into the 'sidekick' role or they need to get someone of that nature at some point.

Roy is really the only one who can create for himself and others. [b]The most logical position would be a SF who could handle, create and score but none of the current Blazer options can do that.[/b]

I've heard of that guy and his name is Lamar Odom. A great ballhandler, passer, shooter and rebounder who seems most comfortable being a sidekick.

[J~Rush]

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I've heard of that guy and his name is Lamar Odom. A good ballhandler, passer, shooter and rebounder who seems most comfortable being a sidekick.

I don't think Lamar Odom is that good of a player. I never really saw him with the Heat, but I'm not impressed with him on the Lakers.