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I think opposing guards really detest Calderon...

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Post#41 » by yt_boi » Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:11 am

I think the main thing is Calderon doesn't get the respect he deserves. So when he's making the opposing guard look dumb they get frustrated.

And I'm glad he's talking smack, we need some guys on our team to talk it, to give us a little edge. All that matters to me is that he's a great team guy to our players.

If he went to an elite college in the states and got drafted he would be way more touted. Anyways, he'll get his money, and in this league, after you get your money you get your respect. It's not the way it should be, but htats how it is.
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Post#42 » by AndreaFTW » Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:37 am

Calderon is a tough player. He's persistent and keeps coming back even after he gets knocked down. If smack talk gets in the opposing players heads, all the better.
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Post#43 » by InsaneRaptors » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:27 pm

Now does he trash talk in english or spanish?
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Post#44 » by LittleOzzy » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:34 pm

InsaneRaptors wrote:Now does he trash talk in english or spanish?


Probably both, I bet he swears a lot out there in Spanish.
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Post#45 » by The Notic » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:05 pm

Snayr wrote:I like that type of attitude from Calderon personally. He keeps his head high out there, and just hustles and hustles and is feisty every time on defense. He may not be the most talented defender, but he tries and he gets under the skin of opposing guards, usually throwing off their game.


Calderon's defensive intensity in no way makes up for his pathetic ability to contend penetration from opposing point guards.

His defense is what I've heard some people refer to as "fake hustle". Where he seems energetic and in good defensive posture, he is nowhere near physical enough on opposing guards to make them detest him for it.
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Post#46 » by barrist » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:10 pm

jaymeister15 wrote:I havent't read this thread....and I'm drunk and just refreshed my browser and saw this thread....but, I've been saying that since he's started that "3-point signal" that it would rub people the wrong way, and it was really annoying. You guys can bash me all you want, but whatever, it's a stupid thing to do after every single three, even when he doesn;t hit it.... whatever, I'm gonna go get some.


I'm glad it annoys fans of other teams, especially Nets fans.
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Post#47 » by WaltFrazier » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:11 pm

There's nothing fake about Jose's hustle.

Re: his lack of respect from other point guards: I remember reading a similar thing about Ginobili after one of the Spurs' championships. Something about how US (black) players tend not to respect his game and athleticism because he's white. They don't like this guy dunking on them, and I think opposing PG's similarly don't like Jose blowing by them with the ball.
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Post#48 » by AB_21 » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:19 pm

I think he's that guy that does things so deliberately and obvious and he makes all the shots and it just irriatates players when he looks like a screen roll decison (pass, drive, shoot) looks like a drawn up play.
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Post#49 » by bakafool » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:39 pm

Ya'll are wrong. It's cuz opposing pointguards can't stand his eyebrows.
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Post#50 » by sattu » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:55 pm

i like jose way more because of this.
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Post#51 » by lmaonade » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:08 pm

Because he has no turnovers and they be jealousing
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Post#52 » by Basketball_Jones » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:07 pm

yt_boi wrote:I think the main thing is Calderon doesn't get the respect he deserves. So when he's making the opposing guard look dumb they get frustrated.

And I'm glad he's talking smack, we need some guys on our team to talk it, to give us a little edge. All that matters to me is that he's a great team guy to our players.

If he went to an elite college in the states and got drafted he would be way more touted. Anyways, he'll get his money, and in this league, after you get your money you get your respect. It's not the way it should be, but htats how it is.


That's basically it. Jose talks a lot out there and plays with a lot of passion, so it rubs guys the wrong way because they don't expect him to be like that while schooling them. I remember when I played ball back in high school and the least athletic guy who looked like he had no game, was out there talking a lot and playing with so much emotion. It got under everyones skin, but the guy was able to back it up. Meanwhile in the NBA guys like Lebron are physically imposing and are known to be so good, so people don't step up to them when they talk trash.
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Post#53 » by LLJ » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:14 pm

I think Jose is a bit of a stereotypical Spaniard competitor. By this I mean he plays hard, and has that way of getting under people's skin that Spaniards are stereotypically known for.

If he was on an opposing team, and playing against us, I think we might get sick of his 3-fingered gestures and what have you too.

I'm glad he's a Raptor.
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Post#54 » by sh00n » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:19 pm

Rasho was talking some smack to Voskuhl too. :lol: But really I'm all for Jose talking smack, especially with Royal Ivey. Dude was giving out hard fouls left, right and center.
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Post#55 » by Ill Mago » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:29 pm

jose is too much of a nice guy to talk smack like that. this thread reminds me of that recent quiznos spot on tv, where the fat girl is eating her lil sammie and the hottie goes "i hate you!" and the fattie is totally flattered
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Post#56 » by jaymeister15 » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:38 pm

Sorry about my post last night...I came back to my room completely hammered, with a girl, and my first instinct was to check what was up on RealGM

I have a problem :(
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Post#57 » by LLJ » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:41 pm

jaymeister15 wrote:Sorry about my post last night...I came back to my room completely hammered, with a girl, and my first instinct was to check what was up on RealGM

I have a problem :(


Drinking and posting harms just as many innocent bystanders as drinking and driving. :nonono:
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Post#58 » by Ill Mago » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:43 pm

jaymeister15 wrote:Sorry about my post last night...I came back to my room completely hammered, with a girl, and my first instinct was to check what was up on RealGM

I have a problem :(



it's ok. i think i speak for everyone when i say, you are forgiven

...just try to be a happy drunk next time :)

also, i have a feeling you she won't be calling you anytime soon, after that. lol

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