Is it time to ship Odom out?

B-Scott · Post #141 » by **B-Scott** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:58 am

Lamar didnt board tonight like he has the last couple of weeks.

We miss Bynum who in my opinion is the MVP of this team. Kobe puts up nice little statistics,but we are looking like a 42-40 team again.

We need him back ASAP

DEEP3CL · Post #142 » by **DEEP3CL** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:03 am

Lamar.......................Every game is an adventure it's just painful to watch him play. He plays with no passion or energy. Waste way too much time bickering with the refs. Kobe said we're a championship caliber team with Drew, but LO brings down our team IQ. Championship teams have high IQ guys on the roster, simply put we have to trade him for anything close to the value we can get.

Post #143 » by **dockingsched** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:07 am

i can't even put up 11/19 40points 10 reb 5 ast regularly on nba 2k8. thats a sign that its a little better than nice little stats.

B-Scott · Post #144 » by **B-Scott** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:09 am

Bynum's 16 points 16 rebounds a couple of block shots and guys getting open shots from him down low impacts the game more.

Bynum is a great passer and guys get wide open looks because of him. It impacts the whole team and the record

It's still early though,but if we keep losing your going to start hearing that from the media

Kobay · Post #145 » by **Kobay** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:15 am

B-Scott wrote:Lamar didnt board tonight like he has the last couple of weeks.

We miss Bynum who in my opinion is the MVP of this team. Kobe puts up nice little statistics,but we are looking like a 42-40 team again.

We need him back ASAP

It would help for our 14 mil guy thats hogging cap space to play like one too.

LosKobeBryants · Post #146 » by **LosKobeBryants** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:15 am

B-Scott wrote:Lamar didnt board tonight like he has the last couple of weeks.

We miss Bynum who in my opinion is the MVP of this team. Kobe puts up nice little statistics,but we are looking like a 42-40 team again.

We need him back ASAP

Wtf do u have any credibility at all?

salsaking · Post #147 » by **salsaking** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:29 am

Relax, everyone knows B-scott's opinion is as good as a Lamar Odom's bball IQ

That Nicka · Post #148 » by **That Nicka** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:42 am

B-Scott wrote:Bynum's 16 points 16 rebounds a couple of block shots and guys getting open shots from him down low impacts the game more.

Bynum is a great passer and guys get wide open looks because of him. It impacts the whole team and the record

It's still early though,but if we keep losing your going to start hearing that from the media

So as soon as Lamar starts playing poorly you start riding Bynum as the guy you will use to hate on Kobe from now on??? You are such a joke

40 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists 11-19.. nice little stats... heh

That Nicka · Post #149 » by **That Nicka** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:47 am

Lamar Odom for Darius Miles and LaMarcus Aldridge

:lol:

Kweli · Post #150 » by **Kweli** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:23 am

B-Scott wrote:Bynum's 16 points 16 rebounds a couple of block shots and guys getting open shots from him down low impacts the game more.

Bynum is a great passer and guys get wide open looks because of him. It impacts the whole team and the record

It's still early though,but if we keep losing your going to start hearing that from the media

And Kobe's presence on the floor is the reason Bynum is able to put up the numbers he does. Bynum shoots 60-70% all the time. That wouldn't happen if Kobe wasn't out on the floor with him most of the game.

What we should be hearing is how the Lakers "2nd best player" got worse since last season, despite being in the prime of his career.

That Nicka · Post #151 » by **That Nicka** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:17 am

Whats funny is that Bynum doesnt average 16 and 16.... Where does B-Scott pull these numbers from?

Post #152 » by **Slava** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:37 am

He pulled a 19/19 for LO a while back. Pure genius!

That Nicka · Post #153 » by **That Nicka** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:56 am

Why was Kirilenko never an option for us?

Odom --> PHX
Marion --> Utah
Kirilenko --> LAL

Teen Girl Squad · Post #154 » by **Teen Girl Squad** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:17 am

Apparently Lamar chewed out the coaching staff toady. Last two who did that were Smush and Cook. Lets hope that this trend continues. Im done with lamar. Hes too inconsistent. His great games dont offset his terrible ones where he becomes a liability on the floor.

Post #155 » by **Danny Darko** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:12 am

Yeah, I'd prefer he goes now. When he is inconsistent and not just how is too much to take. He's got no sense of urgency or clutch.

JRob is also right about his lack of development.

Erik Eleven · Post #156 » by **Erik Eleven** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:00 pm

Erik Eleven wrote:I'm about done with "the Odom experiment", too. But there just hasn't been a good enough replacement available in a trade to justify giving him up.

Erik Eleven wrote:This is where this thread falls on its face, again. Ship him out for whom?

kobe#8 · Post #157 » by **kobe#8** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:22 pm

Trade his ass out!

That Nicka · Post #158 » by **That Nicka** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:35 pm

Teen Girl Squad wrote:Apparently Lamar chewed out the coaching staff toady. Last two who did that were Smush and Cook. Lets hope that this trend continues. Im done with lamar. Hes too inconsistent. His great games dont offset his terrible ones where he becomes a liability on the floor.

Lamar chewed out the coaching staff??

raferfenix · Post #159 » by **raferfenix** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:02 am

Bucks fan here----I can see a deal going down where we ship out Michael Redd for Odom. I got a few questions on Lamar though, if any of you care to answer:

1. How much has his athleticism declined? Is he aging poorly?

2. Does he at least put forth effort on defense?

3. Why has his offensive game declined so much? Is he feeling the effects of so many shoulder injuries and not scoring in the paint enough?

In case you guys didn't know, Redd and Kobe had a great relationship on Team USA. I bet he'd fit onto your team seemlessly, though you'd probably have to take on some Bucks trash (dan gadzuric, bobby simmons, or charlie bell) for us to do it.

I can also see the Bucks being extremely interested in Lakers players like Jordan Farmar or Trevor Ariza if they could be included. The Bucks would have almost no use for Charlie Villaneuva, so maybe he's sent out as well to entice you guys to include one of them.

Post #160 » by **Danny Darko** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:29 am

Successful Trade Scenario
Congratulations on a successful trade.

Due to L.A. Lakers and Milwaukee being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. L.A. Lakers and Milwaukee had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Trade ID
Trade ID #4437791

L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +16.3 ppg, -3.0 rpg, and +0.6 apg.
Incoming Players
Charlie Villanueva
6-10 PF from Connecticut
9.4 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 0.8 apg in 20.1 minutes
Dan Gadzuric
6-11 C from UCLA
2.9 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.3 apg in 9.9 minutes
Michael Redd
6-6 SG from Ohio State
22.9 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 3.6 apg in 37.9 minutes

Outgoing Players
Kwame Brown
6-11 PF / C from Glynn Academy (HS)
5.7 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 1.3 apg in 21.0 minutes
Lamar Odom
6-10 SF from Rhode Island
13.2 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 2.8 apg in 36.7 minutes

Milwaukee Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -16.3 ppg, +3.0 rpg, and -0.6 apg.
Incoming Players
Kwame Brown
6-11 PF / C from Glynn Academy (HS)
5.7 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 1.3 apg in 21.0 minutes
Lamar Odom
6-10 SF from Rhode Island
13.2 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 2.8 apg in 36.7 minutes

Outgoing Players
Charlie Villanueva
6-10 PF from Connecticut
9.4 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 0.8 apg in 20.1 minutes
Dan Gadzuric
6-11 C from UCLA
2.9 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.3 apg in 9.9 minutes
Michael Redd
6-6 SG from Ohio State
22.9 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 3.6 apg in 37.9 minutes