Start Marcus

Universe · Post #1 » by **Universe** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:41 am

No point waiting for a deal, let's get the future on the road.

lurkingobeiscity · Post #2 » by **lurkingobeiscity** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:43 am

I don't think he's a part of it.

Post #3 » by **Rich Rane** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:43 am

Sure, let's let Kidd's value drain lower than what it currently is.

Universe · Post #4 » by **Universe** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:49 am

How will that drain his value? Teams know what Kidd can do and why add injury to insult and be stuck with a unhappy, broken down Kidd.

G_MoNeY · Post #5 » by **G_MoNeY** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:50 am

I'd actually consider this. Turned his back on management, but not only that. Risk an injury and we're done.

Da big3 · Post #6 » by **Da big3** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:51 am

The dilema we face is that we are built to win the big 3, but the future also looks bright, Marcus, sean, Wright, Boone and Curly, and looking at our comepition, Boston own big 3 gettin old, so while ther winning in the next 3 years, will be rebuilding, they ll be retiring while we are finally becoming a good team

everyone knows about the knicks, theyre doomed

Sixers might lose AI, and thats a disater, if he does we should sign him

The Raptors, always a boarderline playoff team, outside of Bosh, they are not much of a threat

In the Draft we should go after a shootin guard and a small forward

Pugsley_2491 · Post #7 » by **Pugsley_2491** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:52 am

Universe wrote:How will that drain his value? Teams know what Kidd can do and why add injury to insult and be stuck with a unhappy, broken down Kidd.

Yeah but teams will point to that as a sign of "hey kidd isn't starting he must be injured or i knew he was getting too old and couldn't sustain the level of play" it's just not smart from a business and basketball perspective.
However i would really like to finally see what we have in this kid and see how he can handle the rest of the season (assuming kidd is traded)

Post #8 » by **Rich Rane** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:55 am

Universe wrote:How will that drain his value? Teams know what Kidd can do and why add injury to insult and be stuck with a unhappy, broken down Kidd.

Other teams' management: Hmm...he's that broken down, huh? Let's lowball the Nets even more.

Universe · Post #9 » by **Universe** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:56 am

Pugsley_2491 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Yeah but teams will point to that as a sign of "hey kidd isn't starting he must be injured or i knew he was getting too old and couldn't sustain the level of play" it's just not smart from a business and basketball perspective.
However i would really like to finally see what we have in this kid and see how he can handle the rest of the season (assuming kidd is traded)

Or we are resting him for them so he's fresh to go. :nod:

I just don't see not pushing for the playoffs so why have a sulking Kidd lead us.

Just my thoughts though.

G_MoNeY · Post #10 » by **G_MoNeY** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:58 am

nonsense. Management wouldn't think that. He's quit on the team, demanded out, why does he play? He can't increase his value much more, teams know what they're getting. If you play him, you risk injury, then we're screwed.

Pugsley_2491 · Post #11 » by **Pugsley_2491** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:04 am

Look at it this way. Did you see what happened to Iverson's value when he sat out and didn't play? I rest my case.

Universe · Post #12 » by **Universe** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:10 am

Pugsley_2491 wrote:Look at it this way. Did you see what happened to Iverson's value when he sat out and didn't play? I rest my case.

What other offers were they getting before hand?

We aren't getting good offers to start anyways.

Post #13 » by **Rich Rane** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:44 am

Universe wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

What other offers were they getting before hand?

We aren't getting good offers to start anyways.

Why the hell make it worse then?

Universe · Post #14 » by **Universe** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:02 am

How does it make it worse?

"Oh he's in the All-Star game but he sat out against the Bucks so I'm not including Jordan Farmar"

I doubt that will happen.

Post #15 » by **Rich Rane** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:15 am

How about..."Damn, Kidd's sitting? The Nets will be desperate to get rid of him. Let's lowball them even more."

tsp00n · Post #16 » by **tsp00n** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:05 pm

Rich Rane wrote:How about..."Damn, Kidd's sitting? The Nets will be desperate to get rid of him. Let's lowball them even more."

you think so??? how bout... teams get thankfull he's not taking the inury risk... and i doubt rod thorn will deal him if the deals are that lop-sided like you assume they'd be, next thing you know thorn'll pull off some crazy ish in summer and kidd stays in jersey ala kobe

Universe · Post #17 » by **Universe** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:11 pm

So when Kidd is lying down on the ground, grabbing his ankle, who do we get then?

will · Post #18 » by **will** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:16 pm

Rich Rane wrote:Sure, let's let Kidd's value drain lower than what it currently is.

Teams know what they would get outta Kidd, and they are already lowballing the Nets for Kidd.

It's not a well kept secret Kidd wants out, so it makes absolutely no difference.

Pugsley_2491 · Post #19 » by **Pugsley_2491** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:32 pm

Only rich and i are seeing this clearly and realistically. Guys, don't forget this is a business. And in business, it's not always nice and what you would ideally like to happen. Why wouldn't the GMs use that as leverage to lower the price. Besides, they don't know that he's not hurt and that we're trying to prevent an injury. In ANY form of business, if there is one weakpoint, it will be exposed and made to be worse than it is to make a better deal for that person. It's just how it is and thank god none of you are the GMs of this team otherwise we'd end up with the same or worse deal than the carter or iverson trades.

superLuigi21 · Post #20 » by **superLuigi21** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:53 pm

will wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Teams know what they would get outta Kidd, and they are already lowballing the Nets for Kidd.

It's not a well kept secret Kidd wants out, so it makes absolutely no difference.

exactly right... and rod thorn is on record saying hes not going to make a kidd trade for the sake of trading him, and i trust he'll get something decent in return... but starting marcus isnt the way to go, thats kind of disrespectful to jkidd.. and before u guys rip me for that, he does deserve better than this.. hes the reason we're out of the gutter, so let him have his starting spot til he gets traded