Its Official! (All Star News)

[Spykes]

Happens often to us.

To quote yehyeh82

Try being a fan of a team that doesn't have an all-star for over(Latrell Sprewell) ten years and then get back to me.

All these years guys like J-Rich and Jamison didn't make it because we didn't win, and now we're winning and we still get snubbed. It really starts to eat at you after a while

Roy is the first Blazer to make an All Star game in 7 years, so it's not like the Warriors are the only team to be left out of the ASG on a regular basis.

[GswStorm3]

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Roy is the first Blazer to make an All Star game in 7 years, so it's not like the Warriors are the only team to be left out of the ASG on a regular basis.

Seven is nothing compared to thirteen the league high.

[Mr Odd]

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Seven is nothing compared to thirteen the league high.

Atleast you guys can make the playoffs.. .

[Spykes]

Seven is nothing compared to thirteen the league high.

I thought it was 10, but I missed that you said "over". My bad.

Ya, that is a long time, but losing teams rarely ever get All Stars (unless you're in the East). Once the Blazers went down hill, that's how it was even though Randolph put up some monster numbers.

Bottom line is, this was the coaches votes. They obviously saw something in Roy that they liked better than what they saw out of Baron this year. Just going by stats alone, Baron definitely should have gotten in over Roy. But of course, Baron is surrounded by a ton more talent than Roy is, and up until VERY recently, the Blazers have had the better record than GS.

You can make a good case either way.

But it sucks being snubbed, we know.

Atleast you guys can make the playoffs.. .

Seriously. The ASG is small potatoes compared to what the Warriors have achieved (one of the best 1st round matchups in recent history last season) and what they'll likely continue to achieve. So nut up Night, you guys still got a lot of things to look forward to and be thankful for.

Portland probably won't even make the playoffs, while the Warriors probably will. So I'm not gonna feel overly sorry for you guys.

[BigOrangeBalls]

Rough for Baron, I actually think hes
the better player right now and the
Warriors are ahead of the Blazers.

Down the line Roy will probably
be the better player tho.. .

I know a lot of you wont agree.. .

I agree.

[doogul]

[quote="Night Angel 1"][/quote]

Yeah, that has to be tough not having an all-star that long. Our streak of 7 years felt awful too, especially since we had a statistical monster player but he didn't make it because of our team record. I do truly believe Baron should have been there. He is a great player. I'm not against ya...I'm just thrilled that one of my team's players made it. I can't really say that I know how you feel, but I do know that snubbing sucks.

[trentsdad]

Congrats to a deserving player on a team that deserved to have their accomplishments recognized

[PDXKnight]

Apparently, there's an I-Roy controversy going on. This is an SI article discussing it:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/marty_burns/01/25/iroy.nano/index.html

Paul Allen needs to hook me up with one of those!

[Dakotah612]

Haters will hate. Brandon Roy is absolutely deserving. People forget we were one of the worst teams last year and now we are in the hunt for a playoff spot, all due to Brandon Roy.

Brandon Roy is more than numbers.

[Yadadimean]

Apparently, there's an I-Roy controversy going on. This is an SI article discussing it:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/marty_burns/01/25/iroy.nano/index.html

Paul Allen needs to hook me up with one of those!

LMAO for people who make multiple millions a year, I hardly see how you can say an ipod with B Roy highlights on it could be considered a bribe.

[doogul]

I'm actually enjoying reading all of the hate. We better get used to it.

Before this season, after Oden went out, did any of you ever dream that at the midpoint of the season, people would be complaining about the NBA's "conspiracy" to get Roy into the all-star game because our team is the feel good story of the year?

It really says something about how far the Portland Trail Blazers have come. What a freakin' surprise. I love it!

[blazersmaniac8]

Agreed doogul, I actually enjoy the hate eventough I usually get mad and try to defend, argue back.

[blazerbasketbal]

What a bust.

Roy's first admittance into what will hopefully be the first of many All-Star games to come is always going to be tarnished because of iRoy.

I'm a huge Blazer fan myself, and I don't think it's right to entice coaches into voting for your player by sending them expensive gifts. I'm glad to hear that Roy took no part in coming up with and distributing the iPod's though.

My thoughts on the starters and reserves for the All-Star game:
-Baron Davis deserved to be in the All-Star game. Roy has played tremendously well for us this season but, like many in the G.S. forum said, he will have his chance to shine every passing year. Baron, a veteran and in my eyes a top 3 or 4 pg, deserves to get recognition for his play. Baron > Roy > West

-Why is everyone hating on Iverson being a starting guard in the West? Has everyone forgotten how good he still is even after 10+ seasons? Sure, Paul and Deron may be the up and coming pg's of the league, but Iverson is still right up if not above them. Vet's deserve their due, people.

-David West doesn't belong in the ASG.


Some other things nonrelated to this thread. First time posting in the forum, and I gotta say I'm glad to have finally done it. Been reading for a while, and you Blazerheads know your basketball. At least most of you =)
Nice to meet you all.

Blazer-related observations:

-The Dal - NJ - PDX trade talks, from what I've heard, are stll supposed to be on the table. Martell-Jack-Frye for DH and Bass, in my opinion, is a dang good trade. We Blazer fans, along with every other team fan base in the world, overvalue our players. DH and Bass fit our criteria perfectly. Our needs as of now include 1) a pg who can control the tempo, distribute to the hot hand, penetrate, and play good D, and 2) a bruiser down low. Devin Harris can do all those things, and better than our other pg's. No digs to Blake - Jack - Sergio, but we need a point with better offensive capabilities. Teams collapse on Roy now because, among many reasons, the pg just isn't an offensive threat inside the 3. Successful teams (think Spurs, Sun, Celtics, Detroit, NO, etc etc.) have pg's that can penetrate and dish. JJ can drive but he can't dish. Sergio's got a lot of potential but he above Martell needs a confidence booster. He's scared to shoot, fellas. How many times have we seen him drive all the way to the paint only to run back outside? No dig on Sergio, all he lacks is that swagger. And a midrange.

-Even though this is old news, at the beginning of this season I never thought TO had it in him. I was big on trading him before this season because he always seemed awkward on the court, had bad bball IQ, took bad shots, and didn't have any handles. Now he drains all his shots. The hell happened?!

-No way we're going to be an elite team if we play jumpshot ball every night. It finally caught up to us. It's not just that we're have poor shooting nights, but it's also that teams are just guarding us more tightly. We have no O down low, and we need that. Cue Oden. This year, though, unless we get a big who knows how to bruise, probably won't be a playoff year for us.

-I noticed in the game against the Cavs yesterday, that Roy still needs a lot of work. Going head to head against Lebron wasn't even a contest. If you watched the game you'll understand what I mean. Roy was clearly overmatched by Lebron's strength and size. Of course, just a few days before that he schooled Kobe for the first time, so yeah, examining Lebron to Roy isn't a fair comparison. Still though, it's smart to realize that while Roy is a sensational player, he still isn't on the level of being Kobe-esque. He is not one of the elite - many don't think he ever will be bc of his 'good at everything but not great at one thing' description - but we'll wait and see.

In the meantime, Go Blazers!!!! We have an All-Star!!

[Spykes]

Apparently, there's an I-Roy controversy going on. This is an SI article discussing it:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/marty_burns/01/25/iroy.nano/index.html

Paul Allen needs to hook me up with one of those!

You're always going to find someone who wants to be a proverbial 'stick in the mud'. It's the same reason the Blazers have to take down the big "Rise With Us." banner that's on those silos by the RG. Some people just aren't happy unless they're complaining about something.

I'm a huge Blazer fan myself, and I don't think it's right to entice coaches into voting for your player by sending them expensive gifts. I'm glad to hear that Roy took no part in coming up with and distributing the iPod's though.

Whats "expensive" to us is not whats expensive to NBA head coaches. Those iPod Nano's are around 100-200 bucks a pop. For you and I, yes, those would be considered expensive items. For coaches making over a million a year, those things are hardly expensive. Most of the coaches likely already have one or will end up giving away the one they got from the Blazers. To think that something as insignificant as a music player "bought" Brandon his way into the ASG is pretty absurd imo.

[The Sebastian Express]

If you think that in any way the iRoy influenced the coaches well, I think you're wrong. His play and the Blazers record is what influened them. Everyone, everyone, EVERYONE thought the Blazers would be just horrible this year without Zach and without Oden.

[Spykes]

If you think that in any way the iRoy influenced the coaches well, I think you're wrong. His play and the Blazers record is what influened them. Everyone, everyone, EVERYONE thought the Blazers would be just horrible this year without Zach and without Oden.

Not only that, but throughout this entire season, how many times have we heard head coaches rave about Roy after games? Sloan, Scott, Johnson, etc... The list goes on and on. The Western Conference coaches know just what Brandon can do and what he's done for this team. A free MP3 player had nothing to do with Roy getting in.

[blazerbasketbal]

My point isn't that iRoy was what got Roy into the ASG, but just that it was a bad idea by marketing staff. If coaches were going to vote Roy in anyway, what was the purpose of sending Roy-branded iPods to each of them? I have a feeling if every other team had advertised their frontrunner the way we did, we wouldn't be staying too quiet either. Fans are using iRoy as an excuse for why he got in. If we're going to be making championship runs within a few years, I'd like for our squad to earn ourselves a good rep, na mean?

[Dakotah612]

So the deal is still on the table?

[Spykes]

So the deal is still on the table?

Last I heard today, talks were pretty much dead.

We still got 20 or so days before the deadline, so you never know when things might heat back up...

[Fitz303]

So the deal is still on the table?

My sources are telling me that they're just figuring out the final details and it will be announced tomorrow morning. KP held out and said he would not include Outlaw and instead offered them T. Green and the rights no Nedzad Sinanovic. The nets finally agreed this evening.