Where does Kidd go and does it matter to the Pistons?

[nasty daddy]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/s ... nce30.html

It's safe to remove the Sonics from the Jason Kidd derby.

Seattle has the draft picks and players (Wally Szczerbiak and any of their three point guards) to make a deal work for the future Hall of Famer, but Presti has repeatedly talked about developing the team along a timeline that's consistent with the development of rookies Kevin Durant and Jeff Green.

Presti declined to answer questions specifically related to Kidd, but Presti said the team's 14-game losing streak that ended Tuesday hasn't altered his belief that it is on the right course. Kidd's agent has reportedly asked for a trade before the Feb. 21 deadline.

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LOL I was gonna use that emoticon cuz they didn't have a snap fingers one and of course the inside history so I enjoyed seeing it in the reply.

Is it strange that when I'm having sex with Batgirl she won't take off her mask?

The Commish wants to know.

This is a very disturbing statement if one is aware of who Batgirl really is and her connection to Commisioner Gordon!!!

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This is a very disturbing statement if one is aware of who Batgirl really is and her connection to Commisioner Gordon!!!

I was hoping nobody noticed that but the OP is off into creating video games so I imagined he did not have them sharing blood lines in his version of Batman.

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I was wondering why she always wanted me to say "Who's your Daddy?".

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I was wondering why she always wanted me to say "Who's your Daddy?".

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I was hoping nobody noticed that but the OP is off into creating video games so I imagined he did not have them sharing blood lines in his version of Batman.

Working title = ShadowRealms, It is kind of a dark world. No way I would touch a Batman game, everyone knows they are always crap.

BTW - Those photos I directed you to are only a small portion of my work that just happened to fit the theme o that thread (Manocad and Uncle Mxy can vouch). I move from style to style depending on my mood or what a client is paying me for.

And yes I know Batgirl is Barbara Gordon with a red wig and that tight ass outfit, just couldn't resist the setup.

Head bobs, body weaves, "some days you just can't get rid of a bomb." runs to the edge of the pier... SPlasH, BoOM!

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BTW - Those photos I directed you to are only a small portion of my work that just happened to fit the theme o that thread (Manocad and Uncle Mxy can vouch). I move from style to style depending on my mood or what a client is paying me for.

Your photos are great. I just remembered you said you were a student and I thought in terms of what life was like for the typical 'student'.

BTW Now that I know more about your style I'll not give you the business when I see some of your 'it will never happen' trade talk.

[GJense4181]

Well, let's assume that Kidd is demanding a trade to a *contender*.
This would--while not considering team makeup after a trade--include Detroit (Chauncey's going nowhere), Boston (not enough talent to acquire Kidd), and Orlando (perhaps) in the East.
Perhaps Kidd would propel Cleveland (in dire need of a point guard not named Boobie), Washington (needs a PG now, but what would happen to Arenas?), and Toronto (healthy TJ Ford and Calderon are all they need) to top 3-4 seed status, but I can't see Kidd's addition to any Eastern team boosting them to Boston, or us, for that matter.
The only trade that *could* work would be an inactive/injured Arenas/Etan Thomas-Kidd trade. Washington would not have to worry about Arenas opting-out and assessing his current market value and would have Kidd/Stevenson/Butler/Jamison/Haywood with a bench of Mason/Daniels/Young/Blatche/Songaila and a deep bench of McGuire and Pecherov. They would have room for three more FA's, if they chose to go that route. New Jersey's season is a waste, anyway, and this could just be considered a salary dump of a malcontent

Out West? Let's just look at every playoff team, then, for the 9th seed, Golden State, has a winning percentage of 58.7%
Utah? Deron Williams is going nowhere.
Portland COULD use Jason Kidd and should try to get it done. Starting PG experiments involving Jarrett Jack/Steve Blake/Brandon Roy haven't stuck, and Sergio Rodriguez/Taurean Green are not the answer, either. As long as Roy/Aldrige/Oden remain Trailblazers post-trade, this could be a VERY viable option.
Denver also needs a starting PG with Chucky Atkins out and ANTHONY CARTER starting. I simply don't see how one basketball could be enough between Allen Iverson/Carmelo Anthony/Jason Kidd. Rebounding is also not a necessity on this Nuggets squad, arguably Kidd's biggest strength. However, Kenyon Martin and Marcus Camby are bigman finishers that Kidd could work with.
Phoenix has Steve Nash.
The Lakers...would Jason Kidd thrive in a triange offense? I think not. Most Phil Jackson teams have had the PG serve a complementary role off-the-ball. Kobe would still demand the ball every possession and Lamar Odom's point-forward ability would go to waste. I don't think Kidd is the missing piece, here, but they certainly have the assets to pull off the trade.
Golden State has Baron Davis and he's perfect for them. They could move Davis to the SG and have him as an off-ball chucker, but I doubt it.
New Orleans has Chris Paul.
San Antonio has Tony Parker. While in the past they considered signing Kidd foremost and dealing with Parker secondly, I think Tony's breakout has changed that line of thinking.
Dallas could pull off this trade if they've determined that the Harris/Terry backcourt isn't working. Jason Kidd would be perfect in exactly this tempo of offense, IMO. I already provided a trade suggestion.

What say you?

[roc]

I can't see Kidd's addition to any Eastern team boosting them to Boston, or us, for that matter.

Hmm Cleveland has already beaten us with Boobie, what makes you think they wouldn't have a chance with Kidd?

Orlando would also be considerably better with Kidd feeding D12/Shard/Hedo for easy buckets. He is a huge upgrade from Jameer/Arroyo

Denver also needs a starting PG with Chucky Atkins out and ANTHONY CARTER starting. I simply don't see how one basketball could be enough between Allen Iverson/Carmelo Anthony/Jason Kidd. Rebounding is also not a necessity on this Nuggets squad, arguably Kidd's biggest strength. However, Kenyon Martin and Marcus Camby are bigman finishers that Kidd could work with.

And how do they manage to land him without giving up Iverson or Camby? I can't see NJ taking Nene in his situation nor a 3rd team.

Dallas could pull off this trade if they've determined that the Harris/Terry backcourt isn't working. Jason Kidd would be perfect in exactly this tempo of offense, IMO.

Quite possible situation if a 3rd team takes Terry/Stack as NJ should really be starting a rebuild before taking back those contracts and remaining mediocre.

[GJense4181]

Do you think that same Cleveland team would have beaten us again had we played another 7-game series? I don't. They're not a threat.
I suppose I have to consider Cleveland's potential playoff seeding when I think about Jason Kidd destination's, though...?
Most of these trades are impossible due to garbage deals in return for New Jersey. I only think Portland/Dallas/Los Angeles are even possibilities after you scratch off teams that can't use Kidd, teams that would ask for too little in exchange for kid, and teams that are not good enough for Kidd to want to play for.

[7r5ur]

Do you think that same Cleveland team would have beaten us again had we played another 7-game series? I don't. They're not a threat.
I suppose I have to consider Cleveland's potential playoff seeding when I think about Jason Kidd destination's, though...?
Most of these trades are impossible due to garbage deals in return for New Jersey. I only think Portland/Dallas/Los Angeles are even possibilities after you scratch off teams that can't use Kidd, teams that would ask for too little in exchange for kid, and teams that are not good enough for Kidd to want to play for.

Cleveland matches up well with us. 2 post-seasons have proven that. They may not be a threat to Boston, but I will not write them off against us at all. A series against Lebron will always be a battle.

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Quite possible situation if a 3rd team takes Terry/Stack as NJ should really be starting a rebuild before taking back those contracts and remaining mediocre.

I think you are forgetting one thing with Orlando, they do not have any tradable players now, especially after Ariza got traded earlier to LA.

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Cleveland matches up well with us. 2 post-seasons have proven that. They may not be a threat to Boston, but I will not write them off against us at all. A series against Lebron will always be a battle.

They do. and they have.
I just never thought they were a better team. I suppose I would prefer to not play them at all or to meet them earlier in the postseason, but I'd like to think that we SHOULD be able to beat them. I'd hate to be intimidated by a 1.5-man team.

[Low-Ki]

Umm Lebron - You have nothing NJ would remotely be interested in, save yourself of course.

He's probably like some trade board posters - We trade Hughes, Boobie and Donyell for Kidd.

[realfung]

I don't think it does matter for the Pistons....
Det is a true team that has been played together for long, I am looking forward to see they match up with the Celts in the playoffs.

I think who ever wins out the East will be Champs, yes, you heard me right.

[Hunter]

Frankly I'd rather have Kidd defending Billups than Hughes. Chauncey usually plays pretty well against him and Kidds inability to shoot really doesn't make him an ideal compliment to LeBron & Big Z. Depending on what they'd have to give up I'm not sure it'd really make them a better team.

[Liqourish]

Frankly I'd rather have Kidd defending Billups than Hughes. Chauncey usually plays pretty well against him and Kidds inability to shoot really doesn't make him an ideal compliment to LeBron & Big Z. Depending on what they'd have to give up I'm not sure it'd really make them a better team.

Plus, who handles the ball? Kidd or Lebron? Kidd hates Carter being 'the man' in NJ, I can't imagine him liking Bron telling him what to do on the court in crunch time.

I'd actually really like the deal if Ferry could pull it off.