Carter for Odom + Farmar

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Post#41 » by About_Blank » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:35 pm

HarlemHeat37 wrote:why would the Nets want this anyways? the pick isn't getting you anything..they already have Marcus Williams, so Farmar is pointless..and Odom is just ass..


They already have Marcus Williams but the Nets are also willin to trade Kidd ..and Rod Thorn want Bynum for Kidd, and this is not happening , I can see Kidd goin to the Mavs
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Post#42 » by Patterns » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:37 pm

About_Blank wrote:Carter would make Kobe and Gasol's game much easier because The opponent would have to choose on witch player to double team , plus Gasol and Bynum and let's not forget about Derek Fisher with his treys

I'd rather have Odom's rebounding that Carter's scoring.

Carter is too expensive for the Lakers after getting Gasol.
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Post#43 » by Mad Balla 15 » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:37 pm

Lol what radio station was this?
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Post#44 » by Kobay » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:37 pm

Its tempting but its a disaster waiting to happen. Carter is not someone we need messing team chemistry at the moment.
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Post#45 » by jeff1624 » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:38 pm

The nets do this to have all the cap space in the world by 09... I'd do it with or without farmar in the deal. He's a career backup IMO...
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Post#46 » by East_Coast » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:38 pm

Uh... no! The Nets would probably go along, but it would be horrible for the Lakers. No way they make that deal.

VC is "paid" and doesn't care about playing anymore. You think Kobe might have a bit of a problem with that lax attitude?
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Post#47 » by About_Blank » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:39 pm

Patterns wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


I'd rather have Odom's rebounding that Carter's scoring.

Carter is too expensive for the Lakers after getting Gasol.



It's not only about his scoring, H's also a good rebounder and very good passer , Odom doesn't get double teamed, Carter does and needs to. This is basically the main difference.
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Post#48 » by Patterns » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:41 pm

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It's not only about his scoring, H's also a good rebounder and very good passer , Odom doesn't get double teamed, Carter does and needs to. This is basically the main difference.

I appreciate you backing up your own player but this deal makes absolutely no sense.

The Lakers will not give up Odom+Farmar for someone who might not be as good as both of them combined and have to pay an extremely heavy lux tax.
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Post#49 » by telele » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:43 pm

Milan24 wrote:I may sound like a fool, but I think Farmar is more valuable to this current Lakers team then VC would be. This team doesn't need any more offense.


Are you smoking crack that has to be a joke even with Cater playing **** he's still putting up 20.5ppg 5.5rebs, 5.1ast per game on a Nets team and your telling me a player that had played in the NBDL for a few is better off for the lakers what a joke hahah what a joke.
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Post#50 » by B-Scott » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:44 pm

Laker fan here. No way do i make this trade

The Lakers are building up a good chemistry with the current team that they have. Plus the ball movement has been great.

I dont want to trade for a isolation type of a player like Vince. He likes to isolate and hold on to the ball to much. I dont like that style and i think it would ruin the chemistry.
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Post#51 » by About_Blank » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:44 pm

Patterns wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


I appreciate you backing up your own player but this deal makes absolutely no sense.

The Lakers will not give up Odom+Farmar for someone who might not be as good as both of them combined and have to pay an extremely heavy lux tax.


what I heard on the Radio is not a done deal so I dont know, someone else could be included in the Deal, maybe Carter + Marcus Williams for Odom + Farmar + fillers
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Post#52 » by kno » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:44 pm

About_Blank wrote:Carter would make Kobe and Gasol's game much easier because The opponent would have to choose on witch player to double team , plus Gasol and Bynum and let's not forget about Derek Fisher with his treys


Honestly, do you think the Lakers need more offensive help?

How far has Phoenix's high-powered offense/lackluster defense gotten them?

Lakers were top-3 in PPG before the Gasol trade (keep in mind tehyre only behind the two run-and-gun teams in the league, Phoenix and Golden State).

With that said, Lakers pre-Gasol were only 2ppg away from leading the league in the stat. Trading a 4ppg or whatever in Kwame for a 20ppg player in Gasol is more than enough offensive help.

Besides that, Lakers were top-3 in FG% pre-Gasol (only behind Phoenix and Utah). Lakers are only 2FG% off of leading the league. Again, trading a player that goes 2-7 ever game on dunk and layup attempts for Gasol is enough of an upgrade there.

The last thing this Lakers team needs is offense (from a perimeter player moreso). Dont forget, Lakers have Bryant already anchoring the perimeter offense.

What this team needs is defense. A defensive specialist at the 3. Odom doesnt exactly fill that role (neither does Carter), but now that he isnt required to score 20ppg or whatever as the 2nd option, I feel as if his production will only increase. Odom is one of the most versatile players in the league, and wityh this new role, will be able to fill any given niche the team needs depending on the opponent.

Odom + Farmar (keep in mind this will leave the team without a good ballhandling backup guard) for Carter will be nothing more than a disaster.
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Post#53 » by B-Scott » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:45 pm

I dont want a isolation player who holds on to the ball for 15 seconds
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Post#54 » by Mad Balla 15 » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:46 pm

Kobay wrote:Its tempting but its a disaster waiting to happen. Carter is not someone we need messing team chemistry at the moment.


Lol I'm not saying the Lakers need Carter but I don't get what's with all you Laker fans or general fans saying Vince is a cancer and will mess with team chemistry. Vince is the last person people think of as a cancer. The guy is a "good boy or momma's boy" off the court, never gets into trouble and has never caused locker room problems.

Heck, ask Nets fans about this season alone. When he came back from his injury he came off the bench for 3 straight games for them to provide them a scoring punch off the bench since there was no scoring coming from the bench. Then Frank put him back in the starting line up but they lost a game and he offered, according to coach Frank to come off the bench if it would benefit the team. In the end they realized him coming off the bench wasn't the right solution so he got put back into the starting line up. But the fact is he was the one of the team that offered to come off the bench just to try to help the situation. That's anything but a cancer like attitude.
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Post#55 » by Sofa King » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:47 pm

jeff1624 wrote:The nets do this to have all the cap space in the world by 09... I'd do it with or without farmar in the deal. He's a career backup IMO...


So says the back faced fan.

Farmar would be starting in a year or two for the Lakers. :P
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Post#56 » by telele » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:49 pm

you guys are funny you act like most super starts don't like ISO's and Vince is one of the better play makers and rebounders for his size so you act like he just wants the ball he has not been playing that way much so why is it a problem. I dont see Odom as a laker long if VC goes or not but Odom always has some BS wrong with him he needs to leave LA for you guys to have the best chance of winning anything.
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Post#57 » by jeff1624 » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:51 pm

Sofa King wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



So says the back faced fan.

Farmar would be starting in a year or two for the Lakers. :P



Did you mean bag??
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Post#58 » by celticfan42487 » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:51 pm

If there going to trade the Knicks that I don't understand why they don't just trade for Kidd.

Odom will be the PF for NJ and still suck but he fills a need.

Farmar will team with Williams to fill Kidd's role with young promising picks [Farmar is as good as young solid starting PG prospect there is]

And LA doesn't loose any flexiabilty. Lamar and Kidd expire the same time, Kidd won't opt out for 21 mil to play with Kobe and Gasol. And Fisher would be an amazing back-up spark.

Kidd/Fisher
Kobe
Ariza/Sasha
Gasol//VladRad
Bynum/Turiaf

That's a good mix of offfensive weapons and defenders. Next off season they should just sign some PG with speed to defend agaisnt the quicker ones. IDK who maybe a Damon Stoudimire or Boykins type.
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Post#59 » by realfung » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:52 pm

Lakers will not take this offer...
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Post#60 » by telele » Mon Feb 4, 2008 10:54 pm

NJ is not trading Kidd for Odom + don't even dream about it, they just got swift and are full in that F/C dept so it does not make sense.

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