McGrady or Roy

[Baller 24]

100% healthy, who is better?

Well Im going to say McGrady, he is as rare as they come, McGrady is the better scorer, shooter, play maker, everything when healthy. McGrady is one of about 5 players in the league that can consistantly give up 25, 5, 5 each and every night. When he catches on fire, he is basically unstoppable, therefore I've never ever seen anyone stop him. Tmac when healthy, is a talent like no other, someone in the bases of Kobe Bryant, Paul Peirce, Vince Carter, Dwayne Wade and LBJ. Brandon Roy is a great player, but come on you can't compare the two, they are on different levels, and IMO will always be on different levels for based on their entire career. Brandon Roy seems more like the play maker, rather then the scorer. To the person that said Roy is the better leader, what evidence do you have to say that?
In 2006-2007, Tracy McGrady led the team to a 20-12 record without Yao, and helped them win 52 games, also ended 4th in MVP voting. While the big guy was out he up-ed his average to about 30pts, 6ast, and 6reb. In 2002-2003, McGrady single handedly led his team to the playoffs with Orlando with Orlando, he also led his team to a 3-0 start, before the Pistons came back to destroy his advancement hopes. Please don't base your analysis on two years worth of work, there is nothing Brandon Roy has done that McGrady cannot do, and I think there really will never be anything Roy can do, that Tmac would have done better, unless he wins a championship, and gets past the first round before Tmac, don't base your analysis on a player who is starting in the rookie-sophomore game

[Wizenheimer]

I don't understand the purpose of this thread, other then to start foodfights.

Everybody has seen TMac at the top of his game and in his prime and that's the ceiling he is judged by. Roy is 4 or 5 years from his prime and is almost certainly a long way from his ceiling, so comparing him to TMac is premature.

Roy has played in 103 NBA games...that's it. You could have "compared" Dwight Howard after 103 games to Dirk Nowitski, or Chris Paul after 103 games to Steve Nash and the threads would be filled with "Nowistki easily" or "Nash >>>>>>>>>Paul". And now those comparisons would be even or in the young guys' favor.

Resurrect this thread in 2 years and the results will be different.

[Alex_De_Large]

I don't understand the purpose of this thread, other then to start foodfights.

I understand, McGrady haters.

[Baller 24]

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I understand, McGrady haters.

Right on...

[Wizenheimer]

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I understand, McGrady haters.

the OP lists Houston as his location, and has a rockets logo in his sig

I doubt he's a McGrady hater

[Alex_De_Large]

then he was probably drunk when he open the thread.
anyway, tmac haters had the chance to hate in this thread, so thats what i'am talking about.

i'am not anti-roy btw, i like the player.

[etopn23]

I don't understand the purpose of this thread, other then to start foodfights.

Everybody has seen TMac at the top of his game and in his prime and that's the ceiling he is judged by. Roy is 4 or 5 years from his prime and is almost certainly a long way from his ceiling, so comparing him to TMac is premature.

Roy has played in 103 NBA games...that's it. You could have "compared" Dwight Howard after 103 games to Dirk Nowitski, or Chris Paul after 103 games to Steve Nash and the threads would be filled with "Nowistki easily" or "Nash >>>>>>>>>Paul". And now those comparisons would be even or in the young guys' favor.

Resurrect this thread in 2 years and the results will be different.

Not really - there isn't a chance in hell of Roy being near Mcgrady's prime. That much should be apparent already.

[Cammo101]

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Not really - there isn't a chance in hell of Roy being near Mcgrady's prime. That much should be apparent already.

There is more to basketball than scoring a lot. TMac's prime won zero playoff series' and played zero defense. Roy can easily be better in his prime than TMac was. What Roy can't be is a more gifted scorer.

[EvadedHavoc]

Antoine Walker when 100% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T-Mac and Roy

[risktaker91]

Tracy McGrady >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brandon Roy

when healthy.

[J~Rush]

Tracy McGrady => Kobe Bryant when healthy.

[Mateen Cleaves]

Mcgrady

[etopn23]

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There is more to basketball than scoring a lot. TMac's prime won zero playoff series' and played zero defense. Roy can easily be better in his prime than TMac was. What Roy can't be is a more gifted scorer.

I'm loving the revisionist history here - so Mcgrady is a one dimensional scorer? NM, Magic Fan - that explains it.

There is 0 chance of Roy eclipsing Mcgrady's prime. What exactly can Roy do better than Mcgrady? What exactly has he shown to date has given ANY indication of him even becoming close to the player Mcgrady is at his best?

As for playoff performances - what Mcgrady doesn't perform now? As a primary option every team he has EVER gone up against has reached the Conference Finals or the NBA championship. He's never lost a series to any of those teams in less than 7.

That should tell you something there.

[SOUL]

0 chance? Lawl. I wasn't even a big Magic fan when Tmac was on it so I have a neutral view on him.. you really think Roy hasn't shown anything? Now that I think about it they are similar players kind of, Roy is nowhere near the offensive player TMac is (yet) and prolly will never be... but if him and Oden win championships I think people will look back at him being better than TMac.. specially if he keeps getting better, lets be real.. its not TMac vs Keith Bogans where he has a 0% chance.

[dontel]

Tmac at 50% >> ROY 100% healthy

[The_Believer]

Roy is quickly becoming the most overrated player ever, very quickly. During the summer, people said J-Rich was much better than him, and now I hear people say he's the next Jordan but without the ego? It's amazing what media hype can do to a players' image and reputation.
Again, T-Mac at 10% >>>> Roy at 100%, and T-Mac at 100% (32-7-6) is arguably the best player in the league. This isn't close by any means, no matter how you look at it.

[tsherkin]

When both are 100%, who is the better player?

Uh, clearly McGrady.

He's at WORST a comparable passer and at 100% is clearly the much better scorer. This is, after all, a man who won consecutive scoring titles. And he's also a much better rebounder and has been a fine defender as both a Raptor and a Rocket. It was only in Orlando when he had no help that he was a mediocre defender.

Remember, 100% T-Mac was able to draw 9 FTA/g before the new perimeter defense rules. If his back wasn't an issue, he'd be a 10 FTA/g player and probably a 27-30 ppg scorer depending on his volume of shots attempted. T-Mac was NASTY, arguably on par with Kobe, when he was healthy.

Roy hasn't flashed anything like the kind of overall talent T-Mac had. Of course, he's like 3 inches shorter, not as athletic and not trying to be a high-volume scorer but still, 100% T-Mac >>>> Brandon Roy.

And I'm a huge fan of Brandon Roy, believe me; I'm thrilled that he's succeeding the way he is, but a healthy T-Mac is just on another level, matched by but few players in the league.

[DaVoiceMaster]

These type of threads are ridiculous. Let's take an All Star and compare a 2nd year player to him. Give Roy a few years and if he's looking like a great player, then make the comparison. Otherwise, everyone is gonna rip on Roy. The guy is a good player, give that to him. Don't set him up to be ragged on with ridiculous threads like this.