Shaq for Marion

Gerhalt11 · Post #81 » by **Gerhalt11** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:54 pm

Yahoo is reporting that it's a done deal.

Post #82 » by **Devin 1L** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 2:57 pm

Typhoon20 wrote:No it doesn't. Nothing will rival the Gasol trade,
unless we trade arroyo, pat, dooling + draft picks for Wade.
Only then will it be a rival to the Pau trade.

This is a good trade, for Miami. Not so much for the Suns.
A good trade nonetheless. Shaq, baring injuries, is still one of the best players in the league. I also don't rate Marion that high. Shaq has still 3 seasons left on his contract, while Miami will benefit from the fact that Marion's contract is expiring next year. I don't think both will benefit too much from this, Miami should have just tanked this season.But other then that it'll make Miami a better team. If Shaq can stay away from injuries, they might be a bit better but honestly, it's not a good trade for the Suns, Amare + Shaq, not really a match made in heaven, neither have an outside J, how is that going to work ? Ah well.

Amare's got a jumper.

He didn't have it coming in, but he developed one -- probably about the time his knee was a big issue.

I think they'll fit together fine.

I'd expect Phoenix to pick and choose on the fast break a little bit more having Shaq on board (think Spurs and Duncan), rather than the automatic run, run, run.

Optimus_Steel · Post #83 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 3:22 pm

Wow this is shocking. What would be more shocking is if Shaq passes that physical LOL. And Phx is gonna be really really hoping that Grant Hill will be dependable.............we know how that turned out for us......

Still i dont know that i like teams helping out the Heat.

mhectorgato · Post #84 » by **mhectorgato** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 3:27 pm

prorl wrote:Wow this is shocking. What would be more shocking is if Shaq passes that physical LOL. And Phx is gonna be really really hoping that Grant Hill will be dependable.............we know how that turned out for us......

Still i dont know that i like teams helping out the Heat.

Wasn't there a wiretap article just yesterday about him getting an MRI for his hip?

Can the Suns waive the need for a physical? Or accept him regradless?

Post #85 » by **Devin 1L** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 3:33 pm

mhectorgato wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Wasn't there a wiretap article just yesterday about him getting an MRI for his hip?

Can the Suns waive the need for a physical? Or accept him regradless?

Yeah, they can just waive it if they like. I'm failing to draw a specific example, but it's been done in the past.

laVal03 · Post #86 » by **laVal03** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 3:55 pm

ok,
Does anyone know why in the hell Otis can't make a lopsided trade in our favor?????

EasternMagic · Post #87 » by **EasternMagic** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 3:56 pm

the suns are becoming the retired magic
not only did they screw their selves they screwed us now we have to play marion and wade 4 times a year in our division.... :evil:

theTHIEF · Post #88 » by **theTHIEF** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 3:59 pm

because they dont just happen every day...

they happen every week...haha

but seriously...they dont, and we're depleted in areas, my feeling is that Otis is scared of us getting rid of bodies...if we trade 4 for 1 and something happens, or we start wearing thin in the playoffs, it takes it's toll real fast...

taking on Gasol would have been awesome, but could you imagine not having Dooling/Arroyo/PG/Redick and future draft picks? we'd have no guard Depth to speak of...

rock and a hard place my freng...

CourtsideTV · Post #89 » by **CourtsideTV** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 4:03 pm

heat are gonna be ridiculous if this goes down.

watch them pull it off then get a first draft pick...

stern would do something like this.

surflawyer · Post #90 » by **surflawyer** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 4:07 pm

devin3807 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Yeah, they can just waive it if they like. I'm failing to draw a specific example, but it's been done in the past.

Wasnt Curry one of those. Aslo if having hack physicians count as a waiver then you have to include Grant Hill :rofl:

Bay_Areas_Finest · Post #91 » by **Bay_Areas_Finest** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 4:10 pm

Soul wrote:I think we'd beat them and Washington would beat them twice still.

Agreed.

Miami still sucks really bad regardless of this trades outcome.

And Phoenix...what the hell are they doing? They could have gotten a lot more for Marion. And Shaq? The dude cant even play anymore.

What a ripoff.

theTHIEF · Post #92 » by **theTHIEF** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 4:12 pm

well now that they have Marion, Wade will decide to come back and play full force...just watch, he will go from "ouch my ___ hurts" to superstar player again...so watch out...

laVal03 · Post #93 » by **laVal03** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 4:18 pm

I don't mind having to see Marion play 4 times against us b/c I love his game- in fact he would be great for us b/c he plays defense like it should be played, rebounds well, and could spread the floor for dwight with his 3 pt capability(his shot is ugly as heel tho)

I hate seeing Miami get better but honestly they need a few more trades to put them in to contention

they may just not be total bottom feeders now

laVal03 · Post #94 » by **laVal03** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 4:19 pm

I guess I should look on the brightside. at least we don't have Phx management that just sells draft picks for cash and is always looking for trades to save $$$ and not necesarily help the team

CourtsideTV · Post #95 » by **CourtsideTV** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 4:25 pm

thEthIEf wrote:well now that they have Marion, Wade will decide to come back and play full force...just watch, he will go from "ouch my ___ hurts" to superstar player again...so watch out...

you know whats funny.. i traded maroin for wade straight up...so the trade would be fair for both of us..bc they both would dominate.

CourtsideTV · Post #96 » by **CourtsideTV** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 4:34 pm

how about we trade shard for marion and ricky davis..that way we have a legit pf..lol

dwight
marion
hedo
ricky davis
kedo

magicfan4life05 · Post #97 » by **magicfan4life05** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 4:39 pm

laVal03 wrote:ok,
Does anyone know why in the hell Otis can't make a lopsided trade in our favor?????

why wont we ever learn, for the last time, HE LIKES THIS TEAM!!

AdamTheGreek · Post #98 » by **AdamTheGreek** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 4:54 pm

This trade actually falls in Phoenix's favor, IMO.
They've been trying to get rid of Banks for a while.
Marion was 90% certain to opt out this summer.
They get back Shaq who will be a perfect asset come playoff time as that will have Amare slide over to PF.

Miami still needs a great big man and a PG to become a contender. Until then, they're just athletic with 3 great players who all need to play well in a game to produce the W.

flyingvee · Post #99 » by **flyingvee** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 5:06 pm

Shaq needs to lose weight and get in shape and he'd still be a nice asset. Ewing played till 40 with decent numbers cause he was in shape. With him lumbering around all that weight you knew he'd break down fast. So if he wants to save his career he better lose weight and it would be a good deal for the Suns as Marion is gone next year anyway.

MagicalMan · Post #100 » by **MagicalMan** » Wed Feb 6, 2008 5:08 pm

Otis cant make lopsided trades just like the other 27 teams in the league arent making lopsided trades.