Bobby Knight on coaching - relevance for Sam

[Hank_Scorpio]

who's bob knight?

Really?

[Indiana Jones]

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Really?

no...(forgot green font...)

[cHiNoz]

green font is the standard for sarcasm eh?

[Hank_Scorpio]

green font is the standard for sarcasm eh?

No.

[rapz**7**]

Its not a "Sam Mitchell Support Thread" - its just that I heard bob Knight talking and thought that what he was saying applied very well to Sam.

Thank god it isnt. I cant see how anyone cant support this guy. He's a great moviator, true, however I feel his cons greatly outway his pros. To me he looks like a guy who could identify problems but can never give a solution. Like when he says "We just missed our shots". True we did, but how can we improve? He says we need to get into the paint more, but does he draw up plays when players work to get into the post except for when the Point guard throws Bosh the ball after a pick and roll? I feel Sam is a coach for developing teams, not taking playoff teams to a championship. He is still a young coach and can develop as do players, but do we really have that much time for him to figure out something other than the pick and roll?

[CB4-TJ11-AB7]

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Thank god it isnt. I cant see how anyone cant support this guy. He's a great moviator, true, however I feel his cons greatly outway his pros. To me he looks like a guy who could identify problems but can never give a solution. Like when he says "We just missed our shots". True we did, but how can we improve? He says we need to get into the paint more, but does he draw up plays when players work to get into the post except for when the Point guard throws Bosh the ball after a pick and roll? I feel Sam is a coach for developing teams, not taking playoff teams to a championship. He is still a young coach and can develop as do players, but do we really have that much time for him to figure out something other than the pick and roll?

Who on this team would be in this post situatioin except Bosh. Honestly you play with the players you have and the team we've assembled is what we're watching. When the shots are hitting its a blowout if its not well... that's the problem no one else is effective at anything. Our best breakdown player has been gone for 25 games and is nowhere close to game speed ready.

Who do you want him to put in the post, our wings aren't exactly guys known for liking the post area. They shoot, our center is afraid of the post and when he's in there throws up an ugly shot that scares most children. He can't exactly pull stuff out of his arse or pull effective post or slashing players out of his arse

[greed416]

i agree... yet i disagree.... bad play calling, lack of execution, inability to counter opponents offense... is what loses 4th quarter games....no matter how hard you play

[emfive]

Hank. I actually admire Sam and his attitude about team building. I sure as H enjoy his media interviews. I can also see that Knight might share some ideas in common with sam. But the comparison ends there.

Sam has lot to admire about him as a human being. When you get right down to it as far as I am concerned Knight is full of sheit. He is a self involved egoist and those who comment on what he has done for young people are ignoring too much in his history. In fact I believe he has done more damage in his life than good.

His biggest failure in life is his own son. I briefly heard him interviewed and my god ... you do reap what you sow. He is a sad replication of everything that was wrong with Bobby and a pathetic role model. His motivational attitudes are transparent and self serving. He cares not a micron for his athletes and only cares for himself. If what these two think will work in will only do so because those that enter their programs are stuck in it and will do what they must to survive. If that is leadership I would not wish it upon any person.

[The_Hater]

Heard this this morning - an interview between Dan Patrick and Bob Knight.

Knight said something like this

"A coach who can get his players to show up on a game by game basis and give a good effort every night will be successful. It doesn't matter what kind of offense you run or what kind of defense. If you can get the effort night in and night out, then you will be successful."

To me, that described perfectly what it is that makes Sam an effective coach. We almost never look back on a game and say that the effort wasn't there. Everyone seems to be on the same page and everyone seems to be working hard. Sometimes they fail in the execution, but almost never in the effort.

Thanks Hank. And I agree. This is a point that I've been arguing in favour of Sam for years now.

And motivating NBA players is significantly tougher than it is in college. There are a lot of prima donnas running around this league and lot of spoiled players that realize the coach is far more expendable than a player with a $40 million+ contract.

[The_Hater]

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Who on this team would be in this post situatioin except Bosh. Honestly you play with the players you have and the team we've assembled is what we're watching. When the shots are hitting its a blowout if its not well... that's the problem no one else is effective at anything. Our best breakdown player has been gone for 25 games and is nowhere close to game speed ready.

Who do you want him to put in the post, our wings aren't exactly guys known for liking the post area. They shoot, our center is afraid of the post and when he's in there throws up an ugly shot that scares most children. He can't exactly pull stuff out of his arse or pull effective post or slashing players out of his arse

Great points.

There seems to be an inappropriate number of posts lately criticizing how this team plays. People wanting jump shooters to start driving to the basket because we don't shoot enough FT's, people wanting our weaker players to have more touches and now people wanting weak inside players to post up more often.

It's just noise. Most people in here really have no concept on what it is they're complaining about.