Atl-Houston-New Jersey Trade (Kidd to Houston)

Rod700 · Post #1 » by **Rod700** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:42 pm

Atlanta Gets: Steve Francis, Shane Battier

Atlanta Trades: Solomon Jones, Lorezen Wright (expiring), Tyrone Lue (expiring), Josh Childress (expiring), 2 2nd round picks.

Atlanta Breakdown: Atlanta get something for it

D21 · Post #2 » by **D21** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:11 pm

Isn't Francis injured for the season ?

Skyhawk1 · Post #3 » by **Skyhawk1** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:01 pm

Yep, he is. This is a horrible trade for everyone anyway.

Rod700 · Post #4 » by **Rod700** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:16 pm

D21 wrote:Isn't Francis injured for the season ?

He is, we would continue on with A.J. and Law this year, with Salim as a third string back up. We'd play Francis next year and then decide whether or not to resign.

Rod700 · Post #5 » by **Rod700** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:21 pm

Skyhawk1 wrote:Yep, he is. This is a horrible trade for everyone anyway.

What

BMF Jet Jaguar · Post #6 » by **BMF Jet Jaguar** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:51 pm

yal dont get jason kidd without giving up carl landry or aaron brooks

Rod700 · Post #7 » by **Rod700** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:47 pm

BMF Jet Jaguar wrote:yal dont get jason kidd without giving up carl landry or aaron brooks

I'm assuming you're talking about Houston. Carl Landry could be included, but I think they would need to hold on to Aaron Brooks to solidify their future at guard.

Rod700 · Post #8 » by **Rod700** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:50 pm

Just one other thing to note: If cap space is a problem, we could send New Jersey someone like Shelden Williams to help with their big man problems instead of Lorenzen's expiring contract.

JoshB914 · Post #9 » by **JoshB914** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:27 pm

No thank you on Steve Francis.

evildallas · Post #10 » by **evildallas** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:44 pm

Is there a reason Houston would want to trade half of their team for Jason Kidd?

reazun · Post #11 » by **reazun** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:23 am

I dont think I like that trade. I value Chill more than Francis.

HoopsGuru25 · Post #12 » by **HoopsGuru25** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:29 am

reazun wrote:I dont think I like that trade. I value Chill more than Francis.

I value Harry the Hawk more than Francis. I mentioned this in a thread 2-3 months ago. Francis has always been a bad lockeroom guy who is always me-first. The only difference now is that he is a me first guy with a bad attitude who doesn't have the HOF physical ability that he once had.

Rod700 · Post #13 » by **Rod700** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:41 pm

evildallas wrote:Is there a reason Houston would want to trade half of their team for Jason Kidd?

Yeah, half their team isn't that great, and Kidd makes everyone on the team better.

Rod700 · Post #14 » by **Rod700** » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:52 pm

HoopsGuru25 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I value Harry the Hawk more than Francis. I mentioned this in a thread 2-3 months ago. Francis has always been a bad lockeroom guy who is always me-first. The only difference now is that he is a me first guy with a bad attitude who doesn't have the HOF physical ability that he once had.

I understand that concern completely. Where I think we differ is that I think that Francis has been humbled and will be willing to become a team oriented player to restore the credibility. What I think that everyone is overlooking is that it is worth what we are giving up. If we can't find another point guard (in other words if he can't get Calderon), why not do this trade? We're only giving up expiring contracts, and Chill, and we get so much verteran leadership on defense, along with 3 point shooting from Battier. If Francis doesn't work out, so what? What have we lost? We just won't re-sign him. It's worth a shot.

If you don't like the cap space though, I put together a simplier one with Shelden for Francis + fillers. Once again, Shelden is a player they could use, that we don't use. Francis could be a very cheap solution to our point guard problems for the next three years. If he isn't, who cares, I'd rather have the cap space of trading Shelden than have Shelden.