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Post#21 » by MagicFan32 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:25 am

How the **** did George get a NTC? DEAVEN GEORGE??? Imagine what Garrity is going to ask for..
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Post#22 » by richi_v25 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:53 am

RawLewD12 wrote:that's funny...i thought kobe was the only one with that clause in his deal...garrity has a clause that states that if he gets traded he makes more money over there...i think they put that in there hoping he would demand a trade so we can get rid of him


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Post#23 » by Gerhalt11 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:47 pm

So, to be clear, the Mavs didn't give him a NTC in his contract, right? It's basically a technicality based on a league-imposed rule.
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Post#24 » by Optimus_Steel » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:06 pm

And to make an exclamation point to Cuban, George goes 0-11 from the field last night LMAO.


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Post#25 » by mhectorgato » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:33 pm

Gerhalt11 wrote:So, to be clear, the Mavs didn't give him a NTC in his contract, right? It's basically a technicality based on a league-imposed rule.


That's what Theg found.

Theg: Where did you find this? I quickly scanned (actually ctrl-f my way through the CBA FAQ) and didn't see this listed.
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Post#26 » by LBPTarHeel27 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:55 pm

I am not shocked. If he signed a one year deal with the team he obviously just wants to be in that specific city for one more year and has no plans and is not willing to go somewhere else, especially not of his choosing.

That being said, the deal is still going to get done. Only a matter of time.
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Post#27 » by DontPushMe » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:35 pm

when i heard this i was floored, why in the world would you sign devin freaking george to a 1 year deal and give him a trade clause? lmao
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Post#28 » by jamlando » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:46 pm

Sounds like someone really screwed up. How do you forget about this no trade clause and not talk to the guy before making this deal & making it so public. Things have to be really uncomfortable in that locker room with all those guys who were included in the deal.

After I started writing this post I realized that just last week he was saying to use him or trade him. I guess I don't blame him for not wanting to go to NJ. Its not like they're going anywhere this season & maybe the next couple seasons.
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Post#29 » by Jigish » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:45 pm

Howdy, I am confused, I was reading ESPN and they said George rejected the trade because he would loose his bird rights. According to the google, bird rights are traded with the player.... So how is that possible that he looses his bird rights?
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Post#30 » by Force9024 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:18 pm

He vetoed the trade because his bird rights would have to be given up. Basically he's assuring himself that he gets paid. It's a selfish move, but if you look back I believe Phoenix signed Danny Manning to a small 1 year deal just to be able to resign him for the Max with being able to go over the cap. Obviously George won't get the max, but he obviously feels he might get more than the MLE, or doesn't feel the Mavs will use there MLE on him. If he renounces those he won't get his raise next season
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Post#31 » by craig01 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:26 pm

I bet he changes his mind.

Word is that he was not too popular with the home crowd last night.
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Post#32 » by mhectorgato » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:04 pm

It's not a matter simply of not going to New Jersey, its the waiving of his rights.

Doing this reduces the amount of teams that can sign him and the dollar amount after the current season is up.

That's what's being publicized as his big reason for blocking this. Now if NJ says to him "we want you to stay for a few more seasons", he can simply waive the no trade.

At least that's my understanding.
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Post#33 » by mhectorgato » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:05 pm

craig01 wrote:I bet he changes his mind.

Word is that he was not too popular with the home crowd last night.


0-11 didn't help either.
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Post#34 » by SD2042 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:32 pm

This is what happens when teams give scrubs a NTC contract. In the end, they find a way to screw you over like a con artist.
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Post#35 » by mhectorgato » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:35 pm

SD2042 wrote:This is what happens when teams give scrubs a NTC contract. In the end, they find a way to screw you over like a con artist.


Apparently ALL 1 year deals get the NTC, not just scrubs.
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Post#36 » by TheGlyde » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:41 pm

A player qualifies as an 'Early Bird' free agent after two seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent.

George re-signed with the Mavs on a 1 year deal, giving him early bird rights.

If he is traded, he loses the Early Bird rights. I believe Bird rights can be traded as long as a player has them but isn't playing under a 1 year deal.

The Early Bird rights allow George to be resigned at seasons end for 175% of his previous salary, or the NBA's average salary, whichever is greater, without regard to the salary cap. If he waives that right, it redices his options to being signed by a team under the cap, or a team spending some of their MLE on him, or signing for the minimum.
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Post#37 » by TheGlyde » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:45 pm

mhectorgato wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



That's what Theg found.

Theg: Where did you find this? I quickly scanned (actually ctrl-f my way through the CBA FAQ) and didn't see this listed.


It's under the 5th bullet point of "When can't a player be traded?" http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#85

Without the player's consent when the player is playing under a one-year contract (excluding any option year) and will have Larry Bird or Early Bird rights at the end of the season.
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Post#38 » by mhectorgato » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:47 pm

TheGlyde wrote:It's under the 5th bullet point of "When can't a player be traded?" http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#85


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Post#39 » by SD2042 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:50 pm

mhectorgato wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Apparently ALL 1 year deals get the NTC, not just scrubs.


Ah well. In that case, the Mavs may lose out on the JKidd sweepskates.
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Post#40 » by N4U|Redux » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:21 am

Cuban ought to bench George for the season and then waive him after March 1st, or whatever the signing deadline for playoff rosters is.

That'll teach him.
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