Blaming Michael Redd

[BankIt]

Excerpts from Sam Smith.

As difficult as it seems to comprehend now, Jordan still was struggling for recognition, especially among his peers, almost four years into his career. Perhaps it's a cautionary tale about wanting to see progress too quickly in players. Sure, Jordan was a star already and had set a record of 63 points in a playoff game.
But before that season his Bulls were a Pau Gasol-esque 1-10 in playoff games.

Hey, if he's so good, why can't his team win even a few playoff games? The whispers were growing louder around the NBA.
We all knew he was special," said Pat Riley, the coach of the Western Conference that year. "But at the time the Lakers were ready to win back-to-back. Yes, he began to change everyone's defensive rules, the Jordan rules. I remember having to defend him all different ways.

"Everybody in the league was thankful he didn't have the supporting cast at that time. But then the public was enamored with all the players in the '80s winning championships. Jordan was like an alien on his own planet."
That was, of course, when Jordan laid those 63 points on the Celtics, though the Bulls were swept in that playoff series. Could you distinguish greatness from selfishness? Was it just a talented player running up totals for a bad team?
"That's the coldest I've ever been in my life," Charles Barkley said. "Dominique [Wilkins] got robbed in the slam dunk. It's frustrating when a great player is not on a team that is that good. I felt that way with [ Kevin] Garnett. [ Allen] Iverson went through it. Michael was [going through it]. He has Brad Sellers and Dave Corzine. You can't expect much.

Poor Michael Redd. Even the greatest of all time with all his talent got the same treatment from fans and players. Damn unappreciative.

[ReasonablySober]

We're comparing Redd with Jordan now? Ok.

[paulpressey25]

We're comparing Redd with Jordan now? Ok.

I can't tell if he's serious or sarcastic. Let's let him make his argument.

[th87]

The "spirit" of it, I can see. I don't think Redd has yet figured out sharing and being efficient. This is the first year he's really had to try. I think we should give it time. But one of the backcourt has to go for defensive purposes.

[SugarRay34]

The horrible thing about this is I think he is actually being serious when comparing a young Michael Jordan to Michael Redd. I wish we could become anything like the Jordan teams were in the late 80's early 90's just as an organization even

[Bucks_Revenge]

I agree that Michael Redd thinks he is Michael Jordan...

[jeremyd236]

I don't think he's directly comparing Redd to Jordan in terms of style of play or anything (at least I'd hope not...)

I just think he's trying to say that even the best player to ever play the game needed help to win a ring.

I mean, you look at Jordan's teammates....

Some say Pippen would've been the best player in the NBA if Jordan didn't exist

Kukoc, a 6th man on the Bulls, may've started on any other NBA team.

Perhaps it's not fair to judge Redd yet considering he's never played with another All-Star on his team.

Hell, it took "better" players than Redd like KG, Pierce, and Allen all needing eachother to reach success.

[Max Green]

I don't think he's directly comparing Redd to Jordan in terms of style of play or anything (at least I'd hope not...)

I just think he's trying to say that even the best player to ever play the game needed help to win a ring.

I mean, you look at Jordan's teammates....

Some say Pippen would've been the best player in the NBA if Jordan didn't exist

Kukoc, a 6th man on the Bulls, may've started on any other NBA team.

Perhaps it's not fair to judge Redd yet considering he's never played with another All-Star on his team.

Hell, it took "better" players than Redd like KG, Pierce, and Allen all needing eachother to reach success.

[75totheMACCfund]

I don't think he's directly comparing Redd to Jordan in terms of style of play or anything (at least I'd hope not...)

I just think he's trying to say that even the best player to ever play the game needed help to win a ring.

I mean, you look at Jordan's teammates....

Some say Pippen would've been the best player in the NBA if Jordan didn't exist

Kukoc, a 6th man on the Bulls, may've started on any other NBA team.

Perhaps it's not fair to judge Redd yet considering he's never played with another All-Star on his team.

Hell, it took "better" players than Redd like KG, Pierce, and Allen all needing eachother to reach success.

isn't Manu a 6th man? Didn't they win the championship last year? It's like the bulls of the 90s and the Spurs of today have some formula for winning it all?

[Bucks_Revenge]

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isn't Manu a 6th man? Didn't they win the championship last year? It's like the bulls of the 90s and the Spurs of today have some formula for winning it all?

AH....I think we are getting some where...like when Redd was a sixth man why couldn't we just keep that trend with Ray and Sam I am sure the right piece would of came..

[L&H_05]

Blaming Redd is the right thing to do... He wanted the max contract, and with that he should take the responsibility for the team as it's leader...He wanted to be the man, he wanted his own team, and it's his job to help turn it around...

Look, speaking from a pure homer perspective, [Cavs Homer] the best thing that could have happened for everyone is Michael Redd signing with the Cavs in 05...

The Cavs would better off probably and the Bucks wouldn't have all this money tied into a guy that is not going to help them go anywhere...Maybe you are where you are now, but maybe not... Knowing what you know now and how it's played out, why wouldn't you go in another direction ??

Mike would be playing for a winning team and would probably be happy.. He would be on national TV all the time, and would probably get the proper recognition for his talents..

It's too late now, but for all parties involved it probably would have been the best for everyone, just on different levels... [/Cavs Homer]

[Stopshere2]

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isn't Manu a 6th man? Didn't they win the championship last year? It's like the bulls of the 90s and the Spurs of today have some formula for winning it all?

The secret is convincing a starting caliber player that things will be better if he comes off the bench. In the Spurs case it's evidently true.

Coming off the bench, Ginobili averages 19/4/5. However, in 10 games as a starter this season he's had a whopping average of 25/6/6, albeit in 8 extra minutes. You get a guy that good coming off the bench and you'll have something special. As a 6th man, he's got similar numbers to Mo and he plays defence.

[Magic 32]

Blaming Redd is the right thing to do... He wanted the max contract, and with that he should take the responsibility for the team as it's leader...He wanted to be the man, he wanted his own team, and it's his job to help turn it around...

Look, speaking from a pure homer perspective, [Cavs Homer] the best thing that could have happened for everyone is Michael Redd signing with the Cavs in 05...

The Cavs would better off probably and the Bucks wouldn't have all this money tied into a guy that is not going to help them go anywhere...Maybe you are where you are now, but maybe not... Knowing what you know now and how it's played out, why wouldn't you go in another direction ??

Mike would be playing for a winning team and would probably be happy.. He would be on national TV all the time, and would probably get the proper recognition for his talents..

It's too late now, but for all parties involved it probably would have been the best for everyone, just on different levels... [/Cavs Homer]

I agree with you! He should be the one to bring the team out of this hole. He put himself in this situation and it doesnt look like he knows how to get out of it.

[paulpressey25]

It's too late now, but for all parties involved it probably would have been the best for everyone, just on different levels... [/Cavs Homer]

It's not too late....I'm the only guy on here willing to take a Redd for Gooden/Hughes/#1.

That deal makes sense to me from a Bucks perspective.....although I don't know if you guys want that. But with Bibby now gone, it is not looking like there are any trades you guys can make.

[kebzach]

I agree that Michael Redd thinks he is Michael Jordan...

And that's about where the comparisons should stop.

[Fight the Tank]

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It's not too late....I'm the only guy on here willing to take a Redd for Gooden/Hughes/#1.

That deal makes sense to me from a Bucks perspective.....although I don't know if you guys want that. But with Bibby now gone, it is not looking like there are any trades you guys can make.

I would do that too. I think you would need to add Gadzuric to that to make it work though.

[Newz]

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And that's about where the comparisons should stop.

Pfft, Redd has a better left hand than Jordan!

[L&H_05]

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It's not too late....I'm the only guy on here willing to take a Redd for Gooden/Hughes/#1.

That deal makes sense to me from a Bucks perspective.....although I don't know if you guys want that. But with Bibby now gone, it is not looking like there are any trades you guys can make.

It's not a deal that makes sense right now..When healthy our biggest strength as a team is defense and rebounding.... We lose both on this and a #1...

If they do anything, I think the Cavs make a minor move (maybe for Jack, Lowry or D-West in Seattle) and just roll with what they have...

Beginning this summer they will have 30 million in tradeable assets to work with...They really don't want to compromise this moving forward...

[Kerb Hohl]

They do both have the same first name. That pretty much means that we should have 6 O'Brien trophies and Redd minor league baseball jerseys in the coming years.

[Newz]

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It's not a deal that makes sense right now..When healthy our biggest strength as a team is defense and rebounding.... We lose both on this and a #1...

If they do anything, I think the Cavs make a minor move (maybe for Jack, Lowry or D-West in Seattle) and just roll with what they have...

Beginning this summer they will have 30 million in tradeable assets to work with...They really don't want to compromise this moving forward...

If you guys add Michael Redd I think you are the instant favorite to win the East.

Adding that type of scorer to team with LeBron makes that team extremely scary.