Lebron or Kobe: Defense only

Jules Winnfield · Post #1 » by **Jules Winnfield** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:25 pm

Who's a better defender?

Lebron's defense is much improved, but I think Kobe's been a defensive player of the year candidate behind Camby and Garnett. Others might disagree.

technologic · Post #2 » by **technologic** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:30 pm

Although Kobe's defense is over-hyped, Lebron's defense has been recently over-over-hyped.

Kobe.

Post #3 » by **tkb** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:56 pm

While LeBron's defense has been very, very good this season, Kobe's has been better.

GilArenas88 · Post #4 » by **GilArenas88** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:06 pm

Kobe for the win.

On a side note who wants to bet this thread get ugly.

Post #5 » by **semi-sentient** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:06 pm

One has to wonder how much more hype Kobe would be getting if the Lakers, as a team, were as good defensively as the Cavs.

hermes · Post #6 » by **hermes** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:14 pm

kobe's d

bballmaniac27 · Post #7 » by **bballmaniac27** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:44 pm

tracey_nice · Post #8 » by **tracey_nice** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:38 pm

Kobe, not even close.

risktaker91 · Post #9 » by **risktaker91** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:42 pm

tracey_nice wrote:Kobe, not even close.

Agreed. Kobe is one of the best perimeter defenders. I'd put him 4th behind Bowen, Battier and Artest.

I've been impressed with LeBron's D this year and I think he'll continue to improve.

EHL · Post #10 » by **EHL** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:51 pm

LeBron's has improved a lot this year, but Kobe is much smarter and more versatile defensively, and significantly superior on the ball while LeBron is probably a little better off the ball.

positivetension · Post #11 » by **positivetension** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:04 am

Kobe, Lebron has been extremely overrated.

EiRON · Post #12 » by **EiRON** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:11 am

Kobe and it's not even close. Lebron James is a GREAT defender, but Kobe Bryant is a ELITE defender.

Post #13 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:14 am

tkb wrote:While LeBron's defense has been very, very good this season, Kobe's has been better.

This is correct. Sure LeBrons been good but the team is nothing without his offense. Until he gets better players around him he'll never be able to expend as much energy on defense.

ljp24 · Post #14 » by **ljp24** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:00 am

TheOUTLAW wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

This is correct. Sure LeBrons been good but the team is nothing without his offense. Until he gets better players around him he'll never be able to expend as much energy on defense.

that's what happened to Kobe in 05-06, he had to put up at least 35 a night to get his a team a win. Played great D, but he had 9 years of NBA experience by then.

AgEnT50 · Post #15 » by **AgEnT50** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:50 am

tracey_nice wrote:Kobe, not even close.

Post #16 » by **tkb** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:18 am

semi-sentient wrote:One has to wonder how much more hype Kobe would be getting if the Lakers, as a team, were as good defensively as the Cavs.

Cavs were 4th last season and are 18th this season. Lakers are currently sitting at 8th this season, so we're getting there. Bynum's improvement has been vital in regards to how much energy Kobe can use on D this season.

Patterns · Post #17 » by **Patterns** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:33 am

tkb wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Cavs were 4th last season and are 18th this season. Lakers are currently sitting at 8th this season, so we're getting there. Bynum's improvement has been vital in regards to how much energy Kobe can use on D this season.

The Cavs are still a better defensive team because they have been missing their key players for so long which skewed their stats. They are a defense first team and the Lakers are a offense first team.

farzi · Post #18 » by **farzi** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:05 am

Its Kobe

dingclancy · Post #19 » by **dingclancy** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:11 pm

Lakers are neither offense first or defense first. They are more than above average defensive team. With Bynum back, we can have all the length that we have on the defensive side to match what the Pistons D is doing. (Not saying they we can be as effective. But we have the tools)