Green to Houston

[Worm Guts]

lol, LeBron wanted help so the Cavs went out and got Wally and Ben Wallace. From ESPN News:

Ben Wallace, Joe Smith, Wally, and Delonte West to the Cavs
Duhon, Newble, and Marshall to Seattle
Larry Hughes, Gooden, and Simmons to the Bulls

Seattle pulls off another robbery, and Cavs get completely hosed.

Huh?

[C.lupus]

What has brewer done? Look at ggs numbers last year.
If you were playing 5 on 5 with your buddies you tell me you'd rather have brewer than gg. Give me a break, Who is more exciting to watch?
We put up with wally for years with his poor defense, I would have been more than willing to put up with what you people think is terrible about gg, and let the kid learn on the job.
If Whittman is such a teacher why couldn't he teach gg.
you can't teach athleticisim

Teaching requires participation from both parties. Yes, you need to have a good teacher but you also need to have a student who is willing and able to learn.

[karch34]

lol, LeBron wanted help so the Cavs went out and got Wally and Ben Wallace. From ESPN News:

Ben Wallace, Joe Smith, Wally, and Delonte West to the Cavs
Duhon, Newble, and Marshall to Seattle
Larry Hughes, Gooden, and Simmons to the Bulls

Seattle pulls off another robbery, and Cavs get completely hosed.

With Z on the Cavs, I don't understand why Wallace would interest them? That said I don't think they got hosed. They added a scorer, decent backup combo guard in West, and got some front court depth. Bibby, Mike Miller, and Andre Miller would've been better acquisitions though.

Seattle gets a decent PG and cuts Wally's expiring next year into Newble's expiring this year and Marshall's next year. Solid deal.

Chicago needed to do something. Gooden and Simmons should help them at their PF hole. Getting rid of Wallace's salary is impressive, but they had to take Larry Hughes, which kind of negates the positive.

Whether he develops or not, Green wasn't going to be with MN. Getting something for him rather than nothing is a solid, if underwhelming move. Not sure we need the Houston 2nd this year anyways, unless we were looking to package all of our 2nds for a 1st.

[funkatron101]

I have never disliked Green. I saw athleticism and effort, even if he doesn't have high B-ball IQ. He got in good position for rebounds, and when he made a mistake, he owned up to it.

He just wants the ability to prove himself. I've seen players with far worse attitude and selfishness get more respect.

With that said, I don't think this is a bad trade for either side.

[karch34]

Saw another site where it said Seattle gets Simmons instead of the Bulls getting him. If that's the case then great trade for Seattle.

[Frozen316]

I hope we give Kirk a chance to play, he could become a good bench player for us.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... eki01.html

[twolves4]

gerald green is just that terrible, plain and simple

[big3_8_19_21]

So Green is going to be good because he's athletic? What's that word for that thing Brewer does when he runs really fast and jumps really high? Oh yeah, athleticism. But wait, what's this? He also has a high bball iq and knows how to play defense? What a novel concept. Green had no future on this team and maybe he'll prove me wrong, but if I had to make a prediction, I don't see him amounting to much more than potential in the long run.

[eloper]

^you forgot to mention this thing called a jumpshot, something I heard is kind of important in the NBA.

[big3_8_19_21]

which is negated by shot selection:
07-08 FG% for Gerald Green: 33.1%
07-08 FG% for Corey Brewer: 34.8%

[Calinks]

God luck to Green. Hope he does well in Houston.

[gold0259]

green will now have tmac to teach him! I mean the guy has houston tatooed on his freaking arm

[slinky]

haha thanks big, i was 2.2 seconds away from postin that very same thing


i hope gerald does well, but with mccants and foye and jefferson...the last thing we need is a scorer. I think gerald is more of a volume scorer, nothing wrong with that(i would take AI in his prime any day of the week) but rashad seems to be slowly taking over that role and we dont ahve a need for that. We need the Swiss Army Knife(brewer) in our future starting lineup.

[big3_8_19_21]

I mean, I'm not wishing ill on him. The best of luck to him and I hope he does prove me wrong, but I just don't think he will be a significant force in the league and won't be better than Brewer. That's just my opinion, though.

[Klomp]

Like a lot of people said, I'm okay with this deal. Yes, we add about 400k in salary for this year, but doesnt that mean we also get 400k more this offseason? Doesn't seem like much, but it could be. Also, another 2nd rounder. Are we becoming the Blazers?

[eloper]

which is negated by shot selection:
07-08 FG% for Gerald Green: 33.1%
07-08 FG% for Corey Brewer: 34.8%

Because it makes sense to use a limited sample size for Green and ignore the rest of his career. I'm sure he forgot how to shoot.

[deeney0]

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I'm sure he forgot how to shoot.

Looks that way.

[deeney0]

Like a lot of people said, I'm okay with this deal. Yes, we add about 400k in salary for this year, but doesnt that mean we also get 400k more this offseason?

No, that's not how it works.

[big3_8_19_21]

I never said he can't shoot, I said he doesn't currently have any semblance of a shot selection. Also it doesn't make sense to compare 2 and half years for Green to half a rookie season for Brewer. It's also not fair to compare NBA stats to college stats. No perfect way to do it. Obviously Green has a better jump shot, I never said he didn't, but his shot selection detracts from it so much. In the end all that matter is the %. That is the stat that objectively combines shot selection and ability to shoot a jump shot.

[casey]

If you were playing 5 on 5 with your buddies you tell me you'd rather have brewer than gg. Give me a break, Who is more exciting to watch?

lmao, that's how you evaluate players?