Best Wingmen for the G.O.A.T. centers

Phil Jackson · Post #21 » by **Phil Jackson** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:11 am

Kobe Bryant for all of them.

Warspite · Post #22 » by **Warspite** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:07 am

IMHO the GOAT wing player is DrJ

Why Mosses isnt on the list is distrubing since hes better than half the Cs mentioned. He and DrJ were a bad Mama Jama....

I honestly think Pippen would have been a great teammate of Wilts. Wilt is pretty much a 7'2" Pippen in that he can do everything well.

I believe Bird and Russell are a great combo as well. As long as Russell has good hands hes going to get enough easy looks from Bird. Russell makes up for Birds weakness and Birds scoring works well with Russell.

Teddy KGB · Post #23 » by **Teddy KGB** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:25 am

Bill Russell + Dirk Nowitzki = :nod:

ThaRegul8r · Post #24 » by **ThaRegul8r** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:59 am

Warspite wrote:Why Mosses isnt on the list is distrubing since hes better than half the Cs mentioned.

ThaRegul8r wrote:When some people talk about Shaquille O'Neal, they bring up the quality of wingmen he's played with in his career, Anfernee Hardaway, Kobe Bryant, and Dwayne Wade, when you've got all-time centers who never in their careers played with any wingmen of that caliber.

So who in your opinion would be the top 5 wingmen (of any to have ever played the game, in their prime and with modern medicine, training methods, etc.) to suit each of the following centers in ascending order from 5 to 1, and explain how you think their games would blend well with these centers.

1. Wilt Chamberlain
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Hakeem Olajuwon
4. Bill Russell
5. Moses Malone
6. David Robinson
7. Patrick Ewing

He is on the list.

Myth_Breaker · Post #25 » by **Myth_Breaker** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:10 pm

ss_maverick wrote:Bill Russell + Dirk Nowitzki =

Full version:

K.C. Jones
World B. Free
Bowen or Satch Sanders
Webber or Nowitzki or Hayes or MacAdoo
Russell

I see what you mean: it would be a hell of the team, though personally I'd rather select among guys being more of 2-way players. ;-)

Myth_Breaker · Post #26 » by **Myth_Breaker** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:13 pm

captain_cheapseats wrote:Since every guy on the list played with at least one HOF wing player other than Robinson and Ewing, I'll just answer for them.....

David Robinson: MJ. A top-notch scoring wing would go well with a defensive oriented big, IMO. If you want a less obvious answer, I'd go with Sam Jones, who proved to be the ideal compliment to the ultimate defense/rebounding center, and is easily one of the most underrated (if not the most underrated) players ever.

I fully agree: also chose MJ.

Patrick Ewing: Ewing was such a complete center

Except bad hands and being unclutch. Also not a great athlete.

I think I'd want a guy with a great all-around game to match with him. If you can count Oscar Robinson as a wing (I know he was a PG, but he could play either guard spot equally well) I'd pick him. If not, maybe Hondo or Pippen.

Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather have Oscar Robertson. :-)

Post #27 » by **Harry Palmer** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:20 pm

Hakeem and Bird would be sick.

Myth_Breaker · Post #28 » by **Myth_Breaker** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:20 pm

Warspite wrote:IMHO the GOAT wing player is DrJ

I know you prefer players from older eras, but frankly speaking even if counting only them I'd rather have Baylor, Havlicek and theoretically also Barry - if he only had better mentality.

Why Mosses isnt on the list is distrubing since hes better than half the Cs mentioned. He and DrJ were a bad Mama Jama....

What the OP said.

I honestly think Pippen would have been a great teammate of Wilts. Wilt is pretty much a 7'2" Pippen in that he can do everything well.

Well, to cover about the only weakness of Wilt - FT shooting and so propensity for being fouled in deciding moments - I'd rather give him a teammate more clutch than Pippen to whom he might kick the ball then - Havlicek, Kobe, Reggie or Bird.

I believe Bird and Russell are a great combo as well. As long as Russell has good hands hes going to get enough easy looks from Bird. Russell makes up for Birds weakness and Birds scoring works well with Russell.

I concur as to Bird - Russell (as to my first post - I didn't list all great combos possible, just examples of them using every great C and every great wing only once).

Myth_Breaker · Post #29 » by **Myth_Breaker** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:22 pm

greenbeans wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

wow, you sure do know your stuff

Russell would have had an ego problem??? GTFO

Thank you for your valuable input and showing us, mere mortals, an amazing example of reading comprehension. Come to PC Board more often: we need more posters like you. ;-)

Myth_Breaker · Post #30 » by **Myth_Breaker** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:33 pm

Harry Palmer wrote:Hakeem and Bird would be sick.

Yes, though it obviously concerns every pairing of great 2-way center with great clutch perimeter player.
From one side: Hakeem, Wilt or Kareem. To the lesser extent - Walton, Mourning, Willis Reed, D. Robinson. In future - prolly Dwight. From the other: West, Havlicek, Kobe, Bird, Frazier, Wade (though lacks range), even Reggie Miller or Sam Jones - though these 2 are more 1-dimensional. ANY combo of these guys from both categories constitutes a core good enough to build a dynasty around it.

asindc · Post #31 » by **asindc** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:17 pm

tha_rock220 wrote:For Wilt, Hakeem, Kareem, and Moses I'd go with Jerry West because of his shooting. For DRob, Russell, and Ewing I'd go with Jordan because he was a better post player than all three of them.

Just when my day was grinding down, this nugget of comedy gold graces my screen. Thank you, Rock! Your budding career as a stand-up might yet come to fruition. :rofl:

ImmortalD24 · Post #32 » by **ImmortalD24** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:26 am

Phil Jackson wrote:Kobe Bryant for all of them.

+1

greenbeans · Post #33 » by **greenbeans** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:47 am

Myth_Breaker wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Thank you for your valuable input and showing us, mere mortals, an amazing example of reading comprehension. Come to PC Board more often: we need more posters like you.

man, do you take all aspects of life as personally as you do AN INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD??? thanks for YOUR valuable input, i know im more well-versed in broken english and ideas of Bill "MFing" Russell having ego problems thanks to you alone, sir.

Myth_Breaker · Post #34 » by **Myth_Breaker** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:14 pm

greenbeans wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

man, do you take all aspects of life as personally as you do AN INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD??? thanks for YOUR valuable input, i know im more well-versed in broken english and ideas of Bill "MFing" Russell having ego problems thanks to you alone, sir.

greenbeans wrote:Europe isnt a race toolbag

greenbeans wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

wow, you sure do know your stuff

Russell would have had an ego problem??? GTFO

You know, I wouldn't say I am the one who takes our conversation personally. Au contraire, I find it rather amusing. Are you going to post something else funny here?

JordansBulls · Post #35 » by **JordansBulls** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:59 pm

Warspite wrote:IMHO the GOAT wing player is DrJ

greenbeans · Post #36 » by **greenbeans** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:34 pm

Myth_Breaker wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

You know, I wouldn't say I am the one who takes our conversation personally. Au contraire, I find it rather amusing. Are you going to post something else funny here?

i could go find all YOUR foolish posts but i wont waste my time.
and European ISNT a race, so how is THAT one funny?

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