Chad Ford: Kohl Turned Down "Several" Deals

[europa]

This is from his ESPN column today. I'd be interested to know what the other deals were. He said in his chat yesterday that Redd was highly coveted but Kohl didn't want to trade him. I'd heard some rumblings about possible deals involving Villanueva and Simmons but nothing concrete. Hopefully we hear something in the weeks to come to give us a clearer idea of what Kohl turned down and whether it would have helped the Bucks or not.

Here's his writeup:

8. MILWAUKEE BUCKS

Positive Spin: People in China love the Bucks!

Negative Spin: Owner Herb Kohl turned down several deals and appears poised to sack his GM. The team is struggling to find an identity and needed to be making trades, not refusing them. If the Bucks had obtained Zach Randolph for Bobby Simmons, Charlie Villanueva and Dan Gadzuric, they could've been a playoff team.

[xTitan]

I heard the exact same thing today .....one involved Mo, Yi and a couple of draft picks for 1 player....just didn't find out who that player was

[LUKE23]

I heard the exact same thing today .....one involved Mo, Yi and a couple of draft picks for 1 player....just didn't find out who that player was

That had better of been one pretty damn good player.

Kohl is a walking imbecile.

[ReasonablySober]

I think it's funny how everyone outside of this forum seems to think that the Randolph deal would have been a boon for Milwaukee, but so many around here believe it would have killed us.

[xTitan]

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That had better of been one pretty damn good player.

Kohl is a walking imbecile.

The Bucks turned it down, all I know was the player's deal added up to Mo and Yi's

[europa]

In fairness to Kohl, we don't know what deals were being offered other than the Randolph one. And I think he made the right call in turning that down.

I'm definitely bothered by the fact he's letting a sinking ship sink faster and not do anything to alter its course. But I'm not going to blame him if the deals the Bucks were being offered weren't any good. That's why I'd like to know what else was on the table that he shot down.

[EastSideBucksFan]

I heard the exact same thing today .....one involved Mo, Yi and a couple of draft picks for 1 player....just didn't find out who that player was

**** I really want to know what deals were turned down


Marion?

[LUKE23]

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The Bucks turned it down, all I know was the player's deal added up to Mo and Yi's

I'm assuming the picks were first rounders, and if so don't those have to count as part of the salary slots or no?

Players that would add up to Yi and Mo huh, that's about $11M or so.

[LUKE23]

I think it's funny how everyone outside of this forum seems to think that the Randolph deal would have been a boon for Milwaukee, but so many around here believe it would have killed us.

If we could be guaranteed to move him for anything (and by anything I mean anything with no long term commitments) in the offseason, I would have done it. But having Randolph for three years with Yi/Bogut is a nightmare waiting to happen. He would destroy both of them.

[LUKE23]

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**** I really want to know what deals were turned down


Marion?

Doubt it was Marion. If we didn't do it for Yi straight we wouldn't add 2 picks and Mo.

[unklchuk]

"appears poised to sack his GM"

Someone (I think GAD) made mention of Babcock as the next GM. Was that casual speculation or humor - or is that actually the way the situation smells.

Elevating an unqualified insider - can they possibly trot out that tactic one more time???

[ReasonablySober]

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If we could be guaranteed to move him for anything (and by anything I mean anything with no long term commitments) in the offseason, I would have done it. But having Randolph for three years with Yi/Bogut is a nightmare waiting to happen. He would destroy both of them.

He would have been moved over the summer apparently. If he didn't rock the boat and the Bucks won at a better clip than they lost prior to the deal, my guess is we could have gotten something better than what we gave up.

[europa]

I think it's funny how everyone outside of this forum seems to think that the Randolph deal would have been a boon for Milwaukee, but so many around here believe it would have killed us.

I'm trying to remember the last time the Bucks made a major trade that actually turned out to support the consensus belief about it at the time of the deal. I don't have to go all the way back to the Bob Lanier trade, do I?

[75totheMACCfund]

I've heard LH has packed his bags and is gone...moreover, Kohl has no trust in LH and simply doesn't communicate with him anymore

[ReasonablySober]

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I'm trying to remember the last time the Bucks made a major trade that actually turned out to support the consensus belief about it at the time of the deal. I don't have to go all the way back to the Bob Lanier trade, do I?

A Knicks trade a and a Bucks trade. Doesn't at least one team have to win?

[DH34Phan]

LOL @ Michael Redd being highly coveted.

[xTitan]

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He would have been moved over the summer apparently. If he didn't rock the boat and the Bucks won at a better clip than they lost prior to the deal, my guess is we could have gotten something better than what we gave up.

My guess is you are 100% wrong.....the Knicks wanted to just dump him, give him away for bad contratcs, any team could have had him for the playoff push for nothing...no takers now at all, why the hell would some team give value for him during the summer? There is absolutely no logic to that thought.

[europa]

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A Knicks trade a and a Bucks trade. Doesn't at least one team have to win?

When you're dealing with two of the most incompetent management systems in the NBA, I'd say there's a good chance both teams come up losers.

[EastSideBucksFan]

LOL @ Michael Redd being highly coveted.

So, you're smarter than NBA Execs and GM's?


Riiiiiight

[Buck You]

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The Bucks turned it down, all I know was the player's deal added up to Mo and Yi's

Only players I can think of are Elton Brand, Jermaine O'neal, Vince Carter and Richard Jefferson. But I don't think their deals match up to yi's and mo's.