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Post#21 » by PaKwAn » Mon Mar 3, 2008 9:48 pm

ICMTM wrote:I like Rondo better than Udrih....


The sad part is that we could have drafted him :nonono:
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Post#22 » by Cruel_Ruin » Mon Mar 3, 2008 11:50 pm

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The sad part is that we could have drafted him :nonono:


Rondo would be awful on the Kings.
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Post#23 » by ICMTM » Tue Mar 4, 2008 12:45 am

KingInExile wrote: I hope the idea is that as Beno becomes more prolific at creating for himself through penetration, that he will draw defenders to him and end up creating open looks for others.


I buy that. The thing that makes all the top PG's dangerous is they can score. You have to respect Nash's ability to score otherwise he'll go for 30.
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Post#24 » by deNIEd » Tue Mar 4, 2008 2:56 am

ICMTM wrote:I can see where someone could make the connection that he has the potential to be a top 20 pg. Really though that's not saying too much since there are 30 starting PG's in the league and you're better than less than half...


I think Beno has the ability to become a top 15 PG in the league, but that's it...he is ideal for us as a backup PG, like a Bobby Jackson type player, but we still need a top 10 PG in order for us to hope to contend for a title.

However, again, like i've said, we can only get so far with trades until we start giving up all our talent, and we can only sign so many players, which is why the draft is so crucial to us.

But a
Beno/Douby/Garcia/Sheldon(GIVE HIM F****ING MINUTES)Williams/_____ would be an amazing bench mob.
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Post#25 » by Sac Fan in Clipper town » Wed Mar 5, 2008 5:39 am

Not top 30 for me, does not defend well, is not athletic, poor shooter and is too small and always goes left.
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Post#26 » by Livno » Thu Mar 6, 2008 3:58 pm

last 5 games:

25 PTS + 4 RBS + 4 AST
15 PTS + 3 RBS + 2 AST
23 PTS + 4 RBS + 9 AST
25 PTS + 5 RBS + 5 AST
25 PTS + 8 RBS + 4 AST

48/85 FG = 0.565
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Post#27 » by Alyosha12 » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:48 pm

Man if he could keep that up :droop:
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Post#28 » by PaKwAn » Thu Mar 6, 2008 7:48 pm

Alyosha12 wrote:Man if he could keep that up :droop:


Then we might not afford him :cry:
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Post#29 » by deNIEd » Thu Mar 6, 2008 8:54 pm

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Then we might not afford him :cry:


Would we want him?

The way Beno is playing, he is a starter in the league, but still around the range of 10-15. If that is the case, he will cost 6-10 million, meaning we won't be able to have a better PG ahead of him.

Would you really want Beno to be the starting PG on our team?

Personally, I say no. We need a top tier PG, or two solid PG's, and Beno is not a top tier PG, not good enough for a championship team.
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Post#30 » by sackings916 » Thu Mar 6, 2008 9:20 pm

His outside shot is too inconsistent, and he doesn't get his teammates involved enough. Even the current Bibby is an upgrade over Beno. If the MLE can't keep him, then they should let him walk.
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Post#31 » by PaKwAn » Thu Mar 6, 2008 9:25 pm

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Would we want him?

The way Beno is playing, he is a starter in the league, but still around the range of 10-15. If that is the case, he will cost 6-10 million, meaning we won't be able to have a better PG ahead of him.

Would you really want Beno to be the starting PG on our team?

Personally, I say no. We need a top tier PG, or two solid PG's, and Beno is not a top tier PG, not good enough for a championship team.


I want Beno for some of the mle as long as we do not overpay for him. You know how bad we play without having a point guard.

Obtaining a top tier or two solid point guards is not as easy as it looks. Drafting is not a sure thing in having one,as long as the price is right for beno then why not.
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Post#32 » by KingInExile » Fri Mar 7, 2008 2:07 am

sackings916 wrote:His outside shot is too inconsistent, and he doesn't get his teammates involved enough. Even the current Bibby is an upgrade over Beno. If the MLE can't keep him, then they should let him walk.

Hmm...in the games I watched between when Bibby came back and when he got traded it was very apparent that Bibby was not doing to much to help the team. Not sure how you can make such a bold statement that the "current Bibby" is an upgrade over Beno when he didn't really show it when he was here starting.

Bibby's gone...let him go.
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Post#33 » by SacTown Kings » Sat Mar 8, 2008 2:58 am

I disagree with a lot of people here. I think people are getting too caught up in whether he is top 5 top or top 20 or top 30, who cares. I think it is more important to determine whether he is a good fit, which I think he is. I have said all year long that our offense looks much better with Beno than Bibby. Is Bibby a better player probably (although that could be debated the way Bibby has played the last year or so), but it is more about the fit rather than his point guard ranking.

I keep hearing we need a top 5 or top 10 point guard. I am all for it, but does anyone have any ideas on how to accomplish that. Everyone needs a top 5 point guard but only 5 teams are going to accomplish this. Picking 12th in the draft will not get us this and non of our assets will fetch us a top point guard. I would rather pay the MLE for Beno, than 10-15 million for someone like Arenas.
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Post#34 » by KingInExile » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:51 am

I would rather have a top 5 PF than a top 5 PG. It doesn't matter how good of a distributor/creator you have at the 1 if you don't have quality players around them. The Kings have players who are or can be quality at the 1, 2, 3 and 5...they just need that top quality anchor at the 4 to make everyone else look better.
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Post#35 » by SacKingZZZ » Sat Mar 8, 2008 6:51 am

SacTown Kings wrote:I disagree with a lot of people here. I think people are getting too caught up in whether he is top 5 top or top 20 or top 30, who cares. I think it is more important to determine whether he is a good fit, which I think he is. I have said all year long that our offense looks much better with Beno than Bibby. Is Bibby a better player probably (although that could be debated the way Bibby has played the last year or so), but it is more about the fit rather than his point guard ranking.

I keep hearing we need a top 5 or top 10 point guard. I am all for it, but does anyone have any ideas on how to accomplish that. Everyone needs a top 5 point guard but only 5 teams are going to accomplish this. Picking 12th in the draft will not get us this and non of our assets will fetch us a top point guard. I would rather pay the MLE for Beno, than 10-15 million for someone like Arenas.


Totally agree. I think Beno even at the full MLE is a good choice for a young rebuilding team. Don't forget the Kings targeted Beno in the '04 draft. So if we hold onto him we essentially have 6, 1st round players out of the last 4 draft years all in their mid-20's or younger.

And Beno does fit better and it's no coincidence. Since Musselman came here last year and now with Theus, the idea is that the coach wants a PG that will penetrate first and foremost. That isn't Bibby, never has been. Right now there isn't even a debate about who's more talented or "better", it's Bibby by far but no matter how much "better" a player is, it is completely nullified if they don't fit on the court or in the long term plans.
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Post#36 » by longfellow44 » Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:05 am

I was just looking up some numbers and beno has been doing very well.


17.4 pts
6.4 ast
3.7 rbs
52.7 fg%
85.3 ft%

These are his numbers for the last 11 games. he has averaged very good number.

I really hope we can keep him.
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Post#37 » by Alyosha12 » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:44 pm

If Beno keeps this up can he be considered for MIP?
I mean in games started he has 15PTS 5AST 3RBS thats a lot better then last seasons 5 1 1 :P

I mean Bynum was set to win it IMO but he got hurt so does Beno have a shot?
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Post#38 » by Blame Rasho » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:45 am

I am glad that Beno has found his niche in the NBA.
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Post#39 » by King Baller » Fri Mar 14, 2008 4:40 am

I am looking forward to Beno signing a long term deal with the Kings. Contrary to some here I think Beno runs the team very well and has a nice mix of assists and scoring.

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Post#40 » by BMiller52 » Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:35 am

He's playing like he might be top 15 IMO.
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