Magic Upset Over Lack Of Respect

celtsloyalty · Post #21 » by **celtsloyalty** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 10:12 pm

I was actually thinking about this topic the other day. I was looking at the eastern conference standings and realized that Magic were in 3rd ahead of the cavs who have been getting all the hype. It suprised me because if you watch all the sports shows on espn I never hear the Magics name as a threat in the playoffs, it's always like what will Boston, Detroit, Cleveland do. I consider it a good thing though for the magic, i don't even know what lewis brought it up.

M_nus · Post #22 » by **M_nus** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 10:49 pm

Dominating the Southeast division. :lol:

Post #23 » by **MagicMadness** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 10:50 pm

M_nus wrote:Dominating the Southeast division.

Respect it!!!

mhectorgato · Post #24 » by **mhectorgato** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 10:53 pm

celtsloyalty wrote:I was actually thinking about this topic the other day. I was looking at the eastern conference standings and realized that Magic were in 3rd ahead of the cavs who have been getting all the hype. It suprised me because if you watch all the sports shows on espn I never hear the Magics name as a threat in the playoffs, it's always like what will Boston, Detroit, Cleveland do. I consider it a good thing though for the magic, i don't even know what lewis brought it up.

Might have something to do with KG talking about the how there are 3 contenders in the East, and Magic weren't one of them.

MagicStarwipe · Post #25 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 11:16 pm

Cammo101 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

While I agree Cleveland is being overrated and I love Dwight Howard. LeBron has a lot more importance to his team than Dwight does to us. Orlando can win on a Dwight off night, Cleveland can't win without LeBron. LeBron is more important to his team than any player in the league...possibly ever.

Unfair statement. Dwight has never missed a game. Hard to know how we would do without him if we have never seen it. I have an idea though. It would look like it usually looks when he is on the bench. Not pretty.

dominique21 · Post #26 » by **dominique21** » Sun Mar 9, 2008 11:25 pm

The Orlando Magic haven't really proved anything...they overpaid for Rashard Lewis and all of a sudden they are upset because the media doesn't give them attention...Well, I hope D How got all his attention at the break because I believe they are a 1st round exit...easy..IMHO

celtsloyalty · Post #27 » by **celtsloyalty** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:25 am

dominique21 wrote:The Orlando Magic haven't really proved anything...they overpaid for Rashard Lewis and all of a sudden they are upset because the media doesn't give them attention...Well, I hope D How got all his attention at the break because I believe they are a 1st round exit...easy..IMHO

lol you're a hawks fan right? Well I'm from Boston and not only would I much much rather play the hawks in the playoffs then the magic, but I beg for you to still be in that eight seed come playoff time cuz it would be a great way to start the playoffs with an easy 4 game sweep.

magicfan4life05 · Post #28 » by **magicfan4life05** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:35 am

^ i like u, come back soon

AdamTheGreek · Post #29 » by **AdamTheGreek** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:19 am

Greatest Boston fan ever. :clap:

Cammo101 · Post #30 » by **Cammo101** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:50 am

celtsloyalty wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

lol you're a hawks fan right? Well I'm from Boston and not only would I much much rather play the hawks in the playoffs then the magic, but I beg for you to still be in that eight seed come playoff time cuz it would be a great way to start the playoffs with an easy 4 game sweep.

You sir are welcome here any time. I would like to offer you the Hedo Turkoglu key to the city.

BoricuaBoi · Post #31 » by **BoricuaBoi** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:04 am

hell yea

its about damn time that someone has the cojones to speak their mind. Im so happy that the magic are taking the lack of respect personally. show them shard rain threes baby, show them dwight facialize everyone downlow, and show them hedo make them wish you were still turkoflu.

richboy · Post #32 » by **richboy** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:41 am

You can't beat 2 teams during the year and say give us respect. Remember one of those wins against Boston came without KG. Fact is we have had plenty of opportunity to force teams to give us respect and have consistently failed. This is the reality.

We currently have 4 wins against the top 8 teams in the West. One of the wins was a close win in NO without Chris Paul. Another win was beating the Lakers before the Gasol trade. Another win was against Houston with a injured Tmac who didn't play the second half. Then they came back without Tmac and beat us in Houston.

We still have 2 home games to prove ourselves agaisnt 2 of the WC best. NO and San Antonio will be coming to town in the near future. If we were to loose those 2 games we would have went 1-7 at home against the top 8 teams in the WC. With the only win a close game against a Tmac less Rocket team.

Good teams are consistently going into Orlando and winning games. Not only winning them but winning in almost easy fashion. You cant bet your entire season on Detroit and Boston. Detroit swept the Magic a year ago and many feel can turn it on whenever. 1 win against a healthy Boston team is not going to gain you elite status.

OrlandoMagic · Post #33 » by **OrlandoMagic** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:59 am

richboy wrote:You can't beat 2 teams during the year and say give us respect. Remember one of those wins against Boston came without KG. Fact is we have had plenty of opportunity to force teams to give us respect and have consistently failed. This is the reality.

We currently have 4 wins against the top 8 teams in the West. One of the wins was a close win in NO without Chris Paul. Another win was beating the Lakers before the Gasol trade. Another win was against Houston with a injured Tmac who didn't play the second half. Then they came back without Tmac and beat us in Houston.

We still have 2 home games to prove ourselves agaisnt 2 of the WC best. NO and San Antonio will be coming to town in the near future. If we were to loose those 2 games we would have went 1-7 at home against the top 8 teams in the WC. With the only win a close game against a Tmac less Rocket team.

Good teams are consistently going into Orlando and winning games. Not only winning them but winning in almost easy fashion. You cant bet your entire season on Detroit and Boston. Detroit swept the Magic a year ago and many feel can turn it on whenever. 1 win against a healthy Boston team is not going to gain you elite status.

I hate you! :lol:

j/k

But seriosuly why do you always have to point out the negative?

Fact is we have beaten both Boston and Detroit 2 times this year
Fact is we are 3rd in the East ahead of the Cavs
Fact is we have one of the best road records in the league.
Fact is we are going to win our division
Fact is we are going to have home court advantage in the 1st rd
Fact is we are going to have a better record than last year

Bigmagicfan82 · Post #34 » by **Bigmagicfan82** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:06 am

Bucs80 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Orlando gets no respect because they don't have barely playoff experience

That is far from true:
(not counting anyone who hasn't made it out the first round.)

Orlando

Hedo went to conference finals twice with 2 different teams (Kings and Spurs)

Rashard went to the conference semi-finals with the sonics

Mo Evans went to the NBA Finals with the pistons.

Arroyo went to the conference finals with the pistons

Dooling went to the Conference finals with the Heat

Cook went to the NBA Finals with the Lakers.

Tony Battie went to the Conference Finals with the Celtics.

Boston:

KG Conference Finals with wolves

Paul Pierce Conference Finals with Boston

Ray Allen Conference Finals with Bucks

Sam Cassell 2 NBA Rings

PJ Brown Conference Semi-Finals

James Posy NBA Ring

Eddie House Conference Semi-Finals with Suns.

Scott Pollard Conference to Finals with Kings.

Brian Scalabrine Conference finals with Nets.

As you can see the Playoff experience for both teams is about even.

Bigmagicfan82 · Post #35 » by **Bigmagicfan82** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:12 am

Cammo101 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

While I agree Cleveland is being overrated and I love Dwight Howard. LeBron has a lot more importance to his team than Dwight does to us. Orlando can win on a Dwight off night, Cleveland can't win without LeBron. LeBron is more important to his team than any player in the league...possibly ever.

The reason we can win when Dwight has an off night is because Dwight's presence draws attention and frees up Hedo and Rashard. If you take Dwight out all together then the magic will have a hard time scoring. See the start of every 2nd quarter if you want evidence.

MagicNolesFSU · Post #36 » by **MagicNolesFSU** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:29 am

Why do teams think we have no playoff experience? Add up games and i bet we are top 3.

richboy · Post #37 » by **richboy** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:30 am

[quote="OrlandoMagic"][/quote]

True but no one is giving you respect for beating teams without there best player. If the question is why do people not consider Orlanod elite then IMO I just answered. The best teams in the league keep coming to Orlando and getting wins. That doesn't happen to the best teams. Potentially going 0-7 against the top WC playoff teams at home? You don't gain respect beating the teams that no one respects.

flyingvee · Post #38 » by **flyingvee** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:35 am

It's hard to respect a team that has no power forward and a starting frontcourt thats more suited to the CBA. As a matte rof fact the Southeast division right now is no better than CBA teams. Get out of the first round first, take Boston or detroit to 7 game sin the 2nd round then you get some respect. No one is going to respect you because you signed Lewis to a ridiculous contract. Respect here also includes watching Otis not making a sin;ge move to improve this season while all other teams did?

On another note after having watched a bunch of Suns games I still can't believe that many on here feel better about Evans/at SG as opposed to Grant Hill. It's done now, but imagine a line-up of Grant, Turk and Rashard alongside Dwight. The matchup problems for other teams would be wild.

Post #39 » by **MagicMadness** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:43 am

I was just thinking about that today, while watching the Suns/Spurs game.

Hill/Nelson backcourt (this year's Hill) >> Nelson/Evans-Bogans backcourt. Too bad we didn't still have him. Besides this season, he'd likely give us another 1-2 solid seasons as a starter at the SG position.

(I like Evans though. But Hill...Hill's having a very good year.)

Bigmagicfan82 · Post #40 » by **Bigmagicfan82** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:50 am

flyingvee wrote:It's hard to respect a team that has no power forward and a starting frontcourt thats more suited to the CBA. As a matte rof fact the Southeast division right now is no better than CBA teams. Get out of the first round first, take Boston or detroit to 7 game sin the 2nd round then you get some respect. No one is going to respect you because you signed Lewis to a ridiculous contract. Respect here also includes watching Otis not making a sin;ge move to improve this season while all other teams did?

On another note after having watched a bunch of Suns games I still can't believe that many on here feel better about Evans/at SG as opposed to Grant Hill. It's done now, but imagine a line-up of Grant, Turk and Rashard alongside Dwight. The matchup problems for other teams would be wild.

1) How is Orlando front court so horrible? They have one of the highest scoring front courts in the league. Is it traditional? No, but it is no different then the front court that the Suns had when they made their runs out west (two SF with a big man in the middle).

2) what does Rashard's contract have to do with anything? Were talking about getting respect based on the wins orlando has. This has nothing to do with who was signed for what in the off season.

3) You only play teams in you division 20 times out of 82. Orlando has only played Southeast Division teams 10 times and won 8 of those games. So 32 wins came from teams not in the Southeast division, or CBA as you call it.

4) i think Hill needed to go. That chapter just needed to end. No bad feeling toward him but I feel he caused more problems then anything else.