Kings at Lakers 3/9/08...a-rod's real thread

BMiller52 · Post #121 » by **BMiller52** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:44 am

prefuse73 wrote:I glad to see my boy Hawes breakout a bit tonight. I had a class with him at the University of Washington and let me tell you, the kid is itelligent and a hard worker and even though I am a minnesota fan, I have been following him all season.

I think his ceiling would be Brad Miller + more defense and more post moves. I too was hoping minnesota would have grabbed him. Jefferson and Hawes would be a sweet combo.

Brad could be better be he doesn't have much fire in him IMO. From what I've seen Spencer is a little taller, has more length, has more fire, and like you said he's a hard worker. He has more of a work ethic and more poise. I sort of agree with you but to be honest I think if you have Brad Miller and add more defense+a post game he would be way better. He's more of a scorer then Brad for sure. I'm thinking 20/10/2blks isn't impossible somewhere down the line considering he's still only just turned 20.

Duiz · Post #122 » by **Duiz** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:53 am

Great job guys!!! Udrih is just excellent.

Cruel_Ruin · Post #123 » by **Cruel_Ruin** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:18 am

What will make Hawes great is that he isn't content with simply being the next Miller, he wants to be Duncan.

Post #124 » by **pillwenney** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:16 am

sackings916 wrote:What teams can offer Beno more than the MLE? And what teams would realistically do that?

Well any team can offer him the MLE. There are probably several teams that would, so that should be interesting.

Awesome game from Spencer tonight. Very encouraging to see.

That charge on Cisco was the wrong call, but it was also a stupid play by Cisco.

What will make Hawes great is that he isn't content with simply being the next Miller, he wants to be Duncan.

Bingo.

sackings916 · Post #125 » by **sackings916** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:21 am

mitchweber wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Well any team can offer him the MLE. There are probably several teams that would, so that should be interesting.

Very true but honestly, I think if Beno is deciding between the Kings and team B and C each offering the MLE he picks the Kings out of loyalty. Unless there's other factors Im not thinking of why would he choose another team if the dollars are the same?

Post #126 » by **pillwenney** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:28 am

sackings916 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Very true but honestly, I think if Beno is deciding between the Kings and team B and C each offering the MLE he picks the Kings out of loyalty. Unless there's other factors Im not thinking of why would he choose another team if the dollars are the same?

Well if he can get a starting spot on a better team, I wouldn't blame him for leaving. But I'm too lazy to look into whether or not that could happen right now.

Post #127 » by **KingInExile** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:35 pm

mitchweber wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Well if he can get a starting spot on a better team, I wouldn't blame him for leaving. But I'm too lazy to look into whether or not that could happen right now.

He's already made comments that suggest the Kings have the edge on resigning him. He appreciates the opportunities he's been given in Sacramento and respects Petrie.

I think the ideal offer for both sides would be a 2 year MLE deal with a 3rd year player option. He will have established his Bird rights with us in a couple of years. This deal would give him the opportunity to work a better deal in a couple years.

Rugged Ron Ron · Post #128 » by **Rugged Ron Ron** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:14 pm

He said Brad Miller WITH defense and post moves. Thats pretty damn good right there.

As already been said. I've been very surprised with Hawes shot blocking. He had 4 blocks last night.

Spanish_Laker · Post #129 » by **Spanish_Laker** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:41 pm

Congratulations, a well deserved win for you guys. You just outplayed us, it was closing to be a blowout Lakers loss. I hope one day (ASAP) we will meet again in the WCF.

RoyalCourtJestr · Post #130 » by **RoyalCourtJestr** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:47 pm

I only got to see two minutes of this game. The score was 100-100 and Spencer got two dunks in a row as I was running out for work. Right then I knew we'd win. Great to see him with that kinda power.

Post #131 » by **KingInExile** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:11 pm

Spanish_Laker wrote:Congratulations, a well deserved win for you guys. You just outplayed us, it was closing to be a blowout Lakers loss. I hope one day (ASAP) we will meet again in the WCF.

Just as long as Dick Bavetta is not allowed to officiate.

a-rod · Post #132 » by **a-rod** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:18 pm

mitchweber wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Awesome game from Spencer tonight. Very encouraging to see.

Indeed 14 points, 8Rebs,3 assist, 4 blacks

in 23 minutes....

welcome back mitch.....

PaKwAn · Post #133 » by **PaKwAn** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:37 pm

If given playing time Spencer produces and last night was just a taste of what he can do,now im waiting for Shelden to get minutes because of the little time that he has been on the floor he has at least a block in those very short minutes.....The Spencer Shelden duo in the frontcourt can be very promising.....

KaZiSaiZ · Post #134 » by **KaZiSaiZ** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:16 pm

wow that was a kick @ss game thread......

SacKingZZZ · Post #135 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:58 am

Rugged Ron Ron wrote:He said Brad Miller WITH defense and post moves. Thats pretty damn good right there.

As already been said. I've been very surprised with Hawes shot blocking. He had 4 blocks last night.

I really think people underrate Brad Miller. Brad without post moves is a 2 time all-star, Brad with post moves could very well have been a perennial all-star. Lacking that facet of the game really hurt him, still at his best he is a 15, 10, 5 player. Not too shabby.

But as mentioned by Cuel_Ruin, he doesn't want to be the next Miller, he wants to be the next Duncan. I said something before the draft how he reminded me of Duncan a little bit, and for those words to come out of his mouth were very promising words indeed.

He could end up a Vlade type, but I think he is more of a Pau Gasol type. Somewhere in that range.

SacKingZZZ · Post #136 » by **SacKingZZZ** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:01 am

PaKwAn wrote:If given playing time Spencer produces and last night was just a taste of what he can do,now im waiting for Shelden to get minutes because of the little time that he has been on the floor he has at least a block in those very short minutes.....The Spencer Shelden duo in the frontcourt can be very promising.....

I really want to see more pick and roll/pop ran with Shelden. His post moves are shaky and the reason why he may be considered a "bust" if the idea that he was going to develop into a franchise big. Fact is though, I see flashes of the "Landlord" here and there. This guy has every chance in the world to be one of the top defenders in the league. He also is the most "powerful" PF we have had in almost a decade.

Hawes = great offense? Shelden = gread defense? Could be a very good combo indeed.

PaKwAn · Post #137 » by **PaKwAn** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:59 pm

SacKingZZZ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I really want to see more pick and roll/pop ran with Shelden. His post moves are shaky and the reason why he may be considered a "bust" if the idea that he was going to develop into a franchise big. Fact is though, I see flashes of the "Landlord" here and there. This guy has every chance in the world to be one of the top defenders in the league. He also is the most "powerful" PF we have had in almost a decade.

Hawes = great offense? Shelden = gread defense? Could be a very good combo indeed.

I agree,Shelden although not that smooth yet has shown flashes to be a good defensive big...If ron teaches this kid and learns some of those tricks then we got a nice combo for the future. And he has also shown us that he can hit those elbow jumpers though not that good yet but he has shown us that he can.