HouMac wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
My suggestion to LeBron fans is to stop bothering with this boob, eat your children. I put him on my ignore list a few hrs ago and would recommend all of you to do the same. He has absolutely nothing concrete to add and majority of his knocks against LeBron are nothing short of laughable. Since everybody and their mother knows nobody in the league could do more w/ this Cavs squad(he thinks CP3 can though

)....you know what his biggest argument against LeBron is? That none of the Cavaliers have had a career year playing alongside him(Gooden did, but he found an excuse for that too!)

. This is something he came up with once his LeBron-makes-his-teammates-worse BS didn't work. Apparently his teammates being far worse w/o him then w/ him isn't important to him. His teammates SHOULD PLAY CAREER BALL ALONGSIDE HIM! That's when you know somebody's really "making his teammates better"

. Although there isn't a single veteran whose ever played career ball with Kobe either(Fisher had his best year as a Warrior a couple of years ago, EOC). But that's not important.
Seriously, use the ignore list.
I broke things down, argument and by argument, and he basically just vomited out his responses. He lost his cool and never followed up any of my posts with structured arguments. He might as well have been arguing feelings and emotions.
His responses have repeatedly been stream of consciousness cesspools, and on top of that, he refused to admit the illogic of using on court/off court stats. I mean, I cornered him on it and he was still defensive about it. I mean, it's a matter of LOGIC, not even of subjectivity. You can't just keep stamping your feet and putting your fingers in your ears. That's childish.
I didn't even come up with an excuse for Gooden. What was the excuse? I was all for letting him come up with a list just as I had, and he always dodged it. I never once purported to dismiss his examples. I welcomed them, and wanted a full comparison.
Finally, there are veterans playing their best alongside Kobe. Pau Gasol and Derek Fisher (playing on less minutes) are the two most shining examples, shooting their best fg% ever, with comparable numbers the rest of the way.
His argument was always: LeBron's teammates are trash, they suck they suck they suck. But that argument can only get you so far. Especially if they played better elsewhere.
Don't pout, HouMAC.