Who wins in 7: Lakers or Suns

HarlemHeat37 · Post #81 » by **HarlemHeat37** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:23 am

I enjoy B Scott's take on the Lakers in this thread..no bias involved..admits that his favorite player Lamar Odom will play well, but will probably get outplayed by Stoudemire..good post..

Farsi Man · Post #82 » by **Farsi Man** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:59 am

HarlemHeat37 wrote:I enjoy B Scott's take on the Lakers in this thread..no bias involved..admits that his favorite player Lamar Odom will play well, but will probably get outplayed by Stoudemire..good post..

Translation: I like it when people tell me what I like to hear.

Kobe will outplay Raja, woops did I say that too loud?

Mr McDunkonu · Post #83 » by **Mr McDunkonu** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:05 pm

Suns in six. Kobe might score 50 per game, but the Suns might score 150 per game. The Lakers make Memphis look like the Suns, for crying out loud.

eatyourchildren · Post #84 » by **eatyourchildren** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:46 pm

Mr McDunkonu wrote:Suns in six. Kobe might score 50 per game, but the Suns might score 150 per game. The Lakers make Memphis look like the Suns, for crying out loud.

Why do people say such horribly ignorant and obviously short-sighted things like that? As if Pau and Andrew played in that Memphis game?

CzBoobie · Post #85 » by **CzBoobie** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:59 pm

Healthy Lakers are better by quite some margin imo...

Best player
Better defense
Better coaching

4-2 Lakers

thamadkant · Post #86 » by **thamadkant** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:42 pm

Lakers fans are forgetting..

Suns can simply implement a tactic that allows Kobe to average 40 a game and let Kobe take his team mates out from impacting... I thin its when they are very vulnerable...

But if Kobe involves everyone, they are pretty darn good.

I can see D'Antoni allowing a soft coverage on Kobe and focus on a perimmeter player to help double one of the post threath in Gasol and Odom...

It will depends on health and tactics now.. talent is even.

eatyourchildren · Post #87 » by **eatyourchildren** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:00 pm

thamadkant wrote:Lakers fans are forgetting..

Suns can simply implement a tactic that allows Kobe to average 40 a game and let Kobe take his team mates out from impacting... I thin its when they are very vulnerable...

But if Kobe involves everyone, they are pretty darn good.

I can see D'Antoni allowing a soft coverage on Kobe and focus on a perimmeter player to help double one of the post threath in Gasol and Odom...

It will depends on health and tactics now.. talent is even.

God I hope they do that. The one thing you do not want to do is enable Kobe to waltz into lane and initiate contact with Amare or Shaq. On last year's squad, Kobe going into the lane had to either kick it out to the 3 pt line or attempt a shuffle pass into Kwame Brown. It's too bad there was nobody to capitalize on either situation.

This series comes down to health, in my opinion. Fisher just came down with a torn tendon in his foot. Kobe has a tweaked ankle and a torn finger. Gasol has a rolled ankle. Bynum is a complete question mark.

Funny that the Suns are the healthy team even though they are older by a considerable margin. But they've definitely got that going for them.

JordansBulls · Post #88 » by **JordansBulls** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:21 pm

At first I was going to say the Lakers, but I am not sure about them now. They seem to be not too stable at home lately.

That Nicka · Post #89 » by **That Nicka** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:41 pm

JordansBulls wrote:At first I was going to say the Lakers, but I am not sure about them now. They seem to be not too stable at home lately.

Again they are playing without two starters... How would Phoenix be doing right now without Shaq and Amare?

JordansBulls · Post #90 » by **JordansBulls** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:43 pm

That Nicka wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Again they are playing without two starters... How would Phoenix be doing right now without Shaq and Amare?

But against Memphis at home?

:eek1:

That Nicka · Post #91 » by **That Nicka** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:45 pm

thamadkant wrote:Lakers fans are forgetting..

Suns can simply implement a tactic that allows Kobe to average 40 a game and let Kobe take his team mates out from impacting... I thin its when they are very vulnerable...

But if Kobe involves everyone, they are pretty darn good.

I can see D'Antoni allowing a soft coverage on Kobe and focus on a perimmeter player to help double one of the post threath in Gasol and Odom...

It will depends on health and tactics now.. talent is even.

No matter what has happened, when Gasol or Bynum was on the team Kobe never forced the issue... He had some great games like the 52 (or whatever) against Dallas, but Pau also got his 20... When Pau or Bynum is there Kobe doesnt have to force shots, and he doesnt... If you guys are dumb enough (which Dantoni probably is) to double one of our post players and sag off of Kobe, not only will you be leaving another lethal post player or deadly shooter open, but Kobe will destroy you

HarlemHeat37 · Post #92 » by **HarlemHeat37** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:55 pm

I hope they don't double down on Gasol or Bynum..neither guy warrants a double team, especially with Kobe on the team..I could understand Gasol IF Amare struggles on the defensive end(which could easily happen), but Bynum should never be double-teamed against playoff Shaq..he isn't that good yet..

That Nicka · Post #93 » by **That Nicka** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:57 pm

JordansBulls wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

But against Memphis at home?

Did you forget last week we just beat Utah and Dallas on the road with the same team?

I dont care what team we are talking about, if you lose two starters you can lose to any team in the NBA... Especially if its your frontcourt..

Without Pau and Bynum, the Lakers are basically the same team from the last two years that went 42-40 and 45-37... Basically a .500 team, and if you look back these are the same problems the Lakers had the last two years, they could beat the best teams, but they would lose to the worst teams.. but replace Smush with Fisher and Kwame with Turiaf, its the same team....

Defense can get whatever they want going to the basket because we have no big man... then our perimeter defense fails because everyone is trying to help everyone else.... And we cant get easy buckets on offense because our guards and forwards are all jumpshooters - built for the inside-outside game that we dont have right now

Once we get, not one but TWO, inside presences back on this team, we will be fine

Post #94 » by **dockingsched** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:02 pm

darko went for 20 and 12. first 20/10 game of the season. thats all you need to know to figure out how much the lakers miss their big men.

That Nicka · Post #95 » by **That Nicka** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:08 pm

Not to mention this makes Lamar go back to being the 2nd option which everyone knows is the worst case scenario for him

But again, no team can withstand losing their starting frontcourt and have a decent record, with the exception of maybe Detroit with Maxiel and Ratliff... but thats still a considerable drop off from Sheed/Dyess and you know its only a matter of time before Ratliff goes down too

jboogy13 · Post #96 » by **jboogy13** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:31 pm

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Again they are playing without two starters... How would Phoenix be doing right now without Shaq and Amare?

oh shut your crybaby asses up...the suns pretty much had to do that for a entire year god damn

JordansBulls · Post #97 » by **JordansBulls** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:43 pm

That Nicka wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Did you forget last week we just beat Utah and Dallas on the road with the same team?

I dont care what team we are talking about, if you lose two starters you can lose to any team in the NBA... Especially if its your frontcourt..

Without Pau and Bynum, the Lakers are basically the same team from the last two years that went 42-40 and 45-37... Basically a .500 team, and if you look back these are the same problems the Lakers had the last two years, they could beat the best teams, but they would lose to the worst teams.. but replace Smush with Fisher and Kwame with Turiaf, its the same team....

Defense can get whatever they want going to the basket because we have no big man... then our perimeter defense fails because everyone is trying to help everyone else.... And we cant get easy buckets on offense because our guards and forwards are all jumpshooters - built for the inside-outside game that we dont have right now

Once we get, not one but TWO, inside presences back on this team, we will be fine

That's what I don't get. You beat good teams without them but can't beat bad teams?

It should be the other way around.

Post #98 » by **kno** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:53 pm

JordansBulls wrote:

That's what I don't get. You beat good teams without them but can't beat bad teams?

It should be the other way around.

Not really.

Look at where Dallas is at with Kidd with that mentallity.

That Nicka · Post #99 » by **That Nicka** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:00 pm

JordansBulls wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

That's what I don't get. You beat good teams without them but can't beat bad teams?

It should be the other way around.

Thats how we were for the last two years.. It doesnt make sense but thats just how it is... It also doesnt make sense that Lamar sucks as a 2nd option but flourishes as a third, but thats just how it works

Post #100 » by **dockingsched** » Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:04 pm

That Nicka wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Thats how we were for the last two years.. It doesnt make sense but thats just how it is... It also doesnt make sense that Lamar sucks as a 2nd option but flourishes as a third, but thats just how it works

wha? since gasol went down and made lamar the 2nd option he's put up:

15/13
17/11
17/17
21/12
13/12
19/22
23/21
18/9

and last nights 2 points when he was very sick. he still grabbed 11 points and dished 11 assists.