Which PG will be left off the Team USA Olympic roster?

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Who will not make the Olympic roster?

Billups
29
40%
Kidd
19
26%
Paul
9
12%
Williams
16
22%
 
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Which PG will be left off the Team USA Olympic roster? 

Post#1 » by nestleflipz317 » Tue Apr 1, 2008 11:37 pm

Let's see if this changes any after the playoffs.

Kidd will make the team due to the team's success last year, unless he's injured or fatigued. But he is the oldest out of the bunch so it has to be a factor. Billups is in my opinion the best shooter but the least "pass-first" out of the four. Also, he's played more playoff games than any of the other player due to his team's continued success. Paul wasn't on the team last year. I think he was on the bench for moral support, but would continuation of the roster factor into anything? Williams seems like the least appreciated in terms of media coverage, so at least for this poll it may have an effect. Although by less the 2 minutes per, he averaged the least minutes played per game out of the 3 PG's last year.

I mean Mike Miller will make the team, so it's not so much who's the best player in the NBA type thread. It should be more about who will help the team win...
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Post#2 » by NetsForce » Tue Apr 1, 2008 11:39 pm

I'd leave either Paul or Williams off hte roster.

Kidd excels when with team USA and Billups polished outside game will be great against zone defenses.

Paul and Williams are great players in their own right but their decision making isn't as good as either Kidd's or Billups'.
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Post#3 » by conleyorbust » Tue Apr 1, 2008 11:41 pm

Personally, I'd take Billups because he is the best post up guard, defender, and game manager out of the group. As you said Kidd will get selected because of last season. Between Deron and Paul, I'd take Paul because he is just as good of a shooter from the international 3 (if not better) and he is the quickest so he'd be a good change of pace guy to have in there.

That gives you 3 very different guys who can do a lot of things.
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Post#4 » by Apollo64 » Tue Apr 1, 2008 11:49 pm

I think that actually Williams is the best choice between him and Paul for the 3rd PG spot, because his size at the position, something very critical in international ball.
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Post#5 » by Scalabrine » Tue Apr 1, 2008 11:58 pm

Why cant they leave Kidd off, I think hes getting a little to much credit, the guy hasnt hit a shot all season so its not like hes in a slump I think his game has quickly gone down hill, I know hes played great for team USA but it almost seems wrong to exclude Paul or Williams from Team USA, at least bring them both so they can practice and stuff and maybe learn under Kidd and Billups before they are both to old to play for team USA. How many players are allowed on the roster 12?

Billups/Kidd/DWilliams
Kobe/Redd/MMiller
Anthony/Prince/MMiller
James/Amare
Howard/Chandler

I guess we are thin at PF/C and the need for another point guard will do nothing but crowd the backcourt. I think either Tayshaun Prince or Mike Miller or Tyson Chandler could be replaced.

Marcus Camby for Tyson Chandler
Brandon Roy - Mike Miller/Prince
Kevin Martin - Tayshaun Prince/Miller
are all guys that I could see being on the team over those three.
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Post#6 » by xstockholmsyndromex » Tue Apr 1, 2008 11:59 pm

conleyorbust wrote:Personally, I'd take Billups because he is the best post up guard, defender, and game manager out of the group. As you said Kidd will get selected because of last season. Between Deron and Paul, I'd take Paul because he is just as good of a shooter from the international 3 (if not better) and he is the quickest so he'd be a good change of pace guy to have in there.

That gives you 3 very different guys who can do a lot of things.


Williams is a better post up guard that Billups and at least as equal a defender. I think Deron is the best shooter out of the bunch.

If D-Will gets left off the roster it will be a serious tragedy.
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Post#7 » by The MVPlaya » Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:09 am

There is no way Kidd can be left off, for anyone who actually thinks that's a possibility. Coach K, the rest of the staff, and the players, have TOO MUCH respect for him. Just not happening.

Also hard to see them leaving off the best point guard in the league this year.

Basically it'll come down to Williams or Billups. Give me Billups because he brings more to the team that we wouldn't already from the PG position....as far as having the whole package of experience, leadership, shooting ability, defense, post play, and clutch play.
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Post#8 » by leevii » Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:13 am

xstockholmsyndromex wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Williams is a better post up guard that Billups and at least as equal a defender. I think Deron is the best shooter out of the bunch.

If D-Will gets left off the roster it will be a serious tragedy.


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Post#9 » by panacea » Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:19 am

I think they SHOULD leave off Kidd, but if they don't, it's gotta be Deron.
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Post#10 » by KB20 » Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:29 am

I think that Chris Paul misses out. Last year's team had such great chemistry and I don't think anyone should be left off.
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Post#11 » by NO-KG-AI » Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:30 am

They won't leave Deron off because it will cause a riot in Utah if Chris Paul gets on and he doesn't.

Honestly, what does Kidd bring that Deron and Paul can't do in the open floor? Less shooting, and more turnovers? Does team USA need his rebounding?

I hope it's Chris :pray:
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Post#12 » by Patterns » Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:32 am

It'll be Billups.

Deron will be in his prime in the next Olympics.
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Post#13 » by That Nicka » Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:43 am

Its crazy that Kidd is the worst of the 4 right now, but is arguable the best fit for the team... It would really suck to see either one of Deron or Paul miss it
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Post#14 » by conleyorbust » Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:52 am

xstockholmsyndromex wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Williams is a better post up guard that Billups and at least as equal a defender.



Wow. Neither of those statements are remotely close to being true.

I am by no means a Pistons fan. In fact I usually hope they get upset in the first round. However I think Billups is one of the least recognized players of his generation. He is the engine behind the second most consistent team of the new millenium and the only truly elite player on it.

He is one of the top defenders at his position and THE top post up pg since Payton fell off... although Davis should take over on that front sooner or later.
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Post#15 » by Mr. Savage » Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:55 am

That Nicka wrote:Its crazy that Kidd is the worst of the 4 right now, but is arguable the best fit for the team... It would really suck to see either one of Deron or Paul miss it


Kidd is not the worst. Kidd's team is just the one that recently struggles the most.

Out of these 4, he easily has the best court vision. He and Billups have a better post game than Deron and Paul. Kidd is still a better defensive player than Paul and Williams. The only area in which Kidd is significantly worse is jumpshooting.

I'd even say Kidd is the best out of the group but not by a lot. It is so hard to rank the other guys behind him.

Out of Billups, Paul and Williams, Paul has the best court vision. He is also the best one on one perimeter player, but he gives up a lot of size and does not have a post up game, 2 problems that Billups and Williams don't have. Deron is probably the most composed player and best decision maker, while Billups can become a bit trigger happy at times.

I'd probably lay off Paul, not because I think he lacks talent, but because Team USA has playmakers on the wings already and Paul is not as good of a complimentary player as Billups and Williams, who are better jumpshooters and also can play on the wing along Kidd because of their size, while Paul would be undersized.

My verdict: Lay off Paul.
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Post#16 » by That Nicka » Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:59 am

[quote="Mr. Savage"][/quote]

Not only do I disagree with your assessments, but who cares about having a PG that can post upfor the Olympics?? Who would put the PG in the post when Dwight, Bron, Melo and Kobe are on the court???
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Post#17 » by carrottop12 » Wed Apr 2, 2008 1:00 am

Deron Williams played significantly better then both Paul and Billups in his time with the Olympic team.
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Post#18 » by og15 » Wed Apr 2, 2008 1:06 am

Kidd's post up abilities are irrelevant in this. The only thing relating to the post that would matter would be post defense, but Billups and Williams can also do that. Also Kidd a better defender than Paul and Williams? I don't think so, definately not anymore, unless I've been watching a different Jason Kidd all season.

I also don't really agree with Kidd and Billups being better decision makers than Chris Paul. Isn't that one of the greatest thing about Paul that he's such a good decision maker?

Anyways, I think the advantage of Kidd is that he almost doesn't want to shoot, and on a team with so many players capable of scoring, a guy who is willing to even take 0 shots a game and can run the offense is nice to have.
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Post#19 » by That Nicka » Wed Apr 2, 2008 1:27 am

og15 wrote:Anyways, I think the advantage of Kidd is that he almost doesn't want to shoot, and on a team with so many players capable of scoring, a guy who is willing to even take 0 shots a game and can run the offense is nice to have.


thats the only advantage I see as well
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Post#20 » by og15 » Wed Apr 2, 2008 1:58 am

Yup, and if you get to a team where you need the PG to score, or spread the floor more, you sub him off and put Billups or whoever in.

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