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Post#21 » by Phil Jackson » Sun Apr 6, 2008 1:14 am

Kobe Bryant was freaking awesome in that video. That video gave me wood. (Except for Shaq).
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Post#22 » by Milan24 » Sun Apr 6, 2008 3:13 am

BRINGTHEPAIN wrote:I think we now know why Michael Jordan is so much better than everyone else. He doesn't feel fear. He senses fear in his opponents but he doesn't feel fear inside of himself. Even when he was 38-39 and had diminished skills he didn't fear anything. In that comeback season he only played 60 games but made 3 game-winning shots (@NY, @CLE, @PHO). And this is at an age when athletes usually lose their nerve. And I recall reading in one of his books, he says when he takes a game-winning shot theres no concern about missing it, because the possibility of making it is so tantalizing. And that when he does miss them he moves on straight away without a care. That doesn't refer to the longterm fear of playoffs, but its clear he sees the glass as being half full rather than half empty. Also, look at the facial expressions on players as they are taking important shots, you can actually see a look of panic on their faces when they watch the ball leave their hands. Jordan didn't have that look.

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Post#23 » by That Other Guy » Sun Apr 6, 2008 4:10 am

Idunkon1stdates wrote:This also applies to Antoine Walker.
he says when he takes a game-winning shot theres no concern about missing it, because the possibility of making it is so tantalizing. And that when he does miss them he moves on straight away without a care. That doesn't refer to the longterm fear of playoffs, but its clear he sees the glass as being half full rather than half empty.

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Post#24 » by BRINGTHEPAIN » Sun Apr 6, 2008 4:47 am

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nba/game ... s-suns.htm

Jordan hits game-winner as Wizards top Suns

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Post#25 » by O.Z.123 » Sun Apr 6, 2008 5:55 am

thamadkant wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




I agree,

Also, he's said it a few times even on Nike ads, he isnt afraid to fail... but he is afraid not to try at all...
i believe he said "i can accept failure but i can't accept not trying." of course being accepting of something doesn't mean ur devoid of fear of it. We all accept death as something that happens to everyone, for instance, but we still do our best to avoid and limit it for fear of it happening too soon or too often (to people around us).

and funny too because in those same nike ads jordan's also said "its ok to be scared, im scared too"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GTq5xSo_jP4

fear of being a failure is real for everyone, its just that great players like MJ refuse to believe they'll be one (as he states "im scared of what i wouldn't become, ur scared of what i could become") but obviously that doesn't mean the fear doesn't exist, its clearly acknowledging that it does.

he, like kobe and shaq just use their fear as motivation and empowerment
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Post#26 » by O.Z.123 » Sun Apr 6, 2008 6:16 am

thamadkant wrote:
so is it fact that Jordan never ran his mouth towards those players?

You mean trash talk?

Im sure he still trash talked... he probably had more material.. like "Oh your not gonna let a old man like me score on ya" stuff like...

Or "You call this.. GAME!?... more like kid's play"

hehe, I can actually see him saying those on court.

BUT.... in terms of talking on the media calling players out... its very very rare.
jordan running his mouth at john starks, going word for word with gary payton and finger waving muntumbo is what i mean.

not "hey im old so don't let me embarrass you" grandpa stuff. jordan in his prime was known as a vicious trash talker, not being friendly competitive. we all know kobe aint afraid to get in the face of the ray allens and dwyane wades of the world (and vice versa).. and t-mac has gone at the kenyon martins and bobby jackson.. and iverson and jordan had their little thing back in the late 90s.. but their interaction with "old jordan" was all friendly competition.. we know this because they televised just about every washington vs "team with marquee player" matchup those 2 years with the media (espn) looking for some kind of drama to emerge. some of the lesser stars were like "yea i'd love to get at jordan" but a.i. kobe and tmac were showing love (to the media) and rarely were they guarding dude (and vice versa) anyway

(in general, with the recap report of games if there was ever intense back and forth trash talk between players (especially star players), they usually note that. <-- like they did when washington played toronto (i believe that was the team rafer was one) and they noted him and jordan were getting at each other and exchanging heated words.)[/quote]
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Post#27 » by OzThunder » Sun Apr 6, 2008 4:30 pm

it's all cliches anyway
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Post#28 » by dingclancy » Sun Apr 6, 2008 5:05 pm

Lol this is like a religion. Is Jordan a god or not?
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Post#29 » by O.Z.123 » Sun Apr 6, 2008 6:06 pm

dingclancy wrote:Lol this is like a religion. Is Jordan a god or not?
:lol: lol some certainly would like for him to be it seems

the kobes lebrons jordans all seem to have those types in their fan bases though

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