The Awards Thread

Post #1 » by **tlee324** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 9:08 pm

This is the thread where you can list your opinions on who should win what awards this year.

MVP: Chris Paul
Defensive player of the Year: Kevin Garnett
6th Man: Leandro Barbosa
Rookie of the Year: Kevin Durant
Most Improved Player: LaMarcus Aldridge
Coach of the Year: Rick Adelman
GM of the Year: Danny Ainge

All NBA 1st:
PG - Chris Paul
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - LeBron James
PF - Kevin Garnett
C - Dwight Howard

All NBA 2nd:
PG - Steve Nash
SG - Allen Iverson
SF - Paul Pierce
PF - Tim Duncan
C - Amare Stoudamire

All NBA 3rd:
PG - Deron Williams
SG - Tracy McGrady
SF - Carmelo Anthony
PF - Carlos Boozer
C - Marcus Camby

All NBA Defensive 1st:
PG - Chauncey Billups
SG - Manu Ginobili
SF - Tayshaun Prince
PF - Kevin Garnett
C - Dwight Howard

All NBA Defensive 2nd:
PG - Jason Kidd
SG - Raja Bell
SF - Paul Pierce
PF - Tim Duncan
C - Dikembe Mutumbo

All NBA Defensive 3rd:
PG - Baron Davis
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - Hedo Turkoglu
PF - Lamar Odom
C - Marcus Camby

alwayslovetheceltics · Post #2 » by **alwayslovetheceltics** » Tue Apr 1, 2008 10:54 pm

MVP: Chris Paul
Defensive player of the Year: Kevin Garnett
6th Man: Monte Ellis
Rookie of the Year: Kevin Durant
Most Improved Player: Hedo
Coach of the Year: Rick Adelman
GM of the Year: Danny Ainge

All NBA 1st:
PG - Chris Paul
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - LeBron James
PF - Kevin Garnett
C - Dwight Howard

All NBA 2nd:
PG - Chauncey Billups
SG - Tracy McGrady
SF - Paul Pierce
PF - Carlos Boozer
C - Amare Stoudamire

All NBA 3rd:
PG - Deron Williams
SG - Allen Iverson
SF - Carmelo Anthony
PF - Tim Duncan
C - Marcus Camby

All NBA Defensive 1st:
PG - Chauncey Billups
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - Tayshaun Prince
PF - Kevin Garnett
C - Marcus Camby

All NBA Defensive 2nd:
PG - Chris Paul
SG - Manu Ginobli
SF - Paul Pierce
PF - Andrei Kirilenko
C - Tim Duncan

drza · Post #3 » by **drza** » Wed Apr 2, 2008 4:54 pm

MVP: Kevin Garnett
Defensive player of the Year: Kevin Garnett
6th Man: Manu Ginobili (if eligible)
Rookie of the Year: Kevin Durant
Most Improved Player: Hedo Turkoglu
Coach of the Year: Rick Adelman
GM of the Year: Danny Ainge

All NBA 1st:
PG - Chris Paul
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - LeBron James
PF - Kevin Garnett
C - Dwight Howard

All NBA 2nd:
PG - Deron Williams
SG - Manu Ginobili
SF - Paul Pierce
PF - Tim Duncan
C - Amare Stoudamire

All NBA 3rd:
PG - Steve Nash
SG - Baron Davis
SF - Tracy McGrady
PF - Carlos Boozer
C - Marcus Camby

All NBA Defensive 1st:
PG - Chauncey Billups
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - Shane Battier
PF - Kevin Garnett
C - Marcus Camby

All NBA Defensive 2nd:
PG - Allen Iverson
SG - Manu Ginobli
SF - Paul Pierce
PF - Tim Duncan
C - Dwight Howard

Datruth345 · Post #4 » by **Datruth345** » Thu Apr 3, 2008 3:48 am

MVP: Kevin Garnett
Defensive player of the Year: Kevin Garnett
6th Man: Manu
Rookie of the Year: Kevin Durant
Most Improved Player: Al Jefferson
Coach of the Year: Doc Rivers
GM of the Year: Danny Ainge

a little tinted, but what do i care, you can make a legit case for everyone i put, thats good enough for me

Post #5 » by **Bleeding Green** » Thu Apr 3, 2008 4:22 am

MVP: Chris Paul
Defensive player of the Year: Kevin Garnett
6th Man: Manu Ginobili
Rookie of the Year: Luis Scola (or Thad Young if Scola doesn't count)
Most Improved Player: Chris Paul
Coach of the Year: Doc Rivers
GM of the Year: Danny Ainge

All NBA 1st:
PG - Chris Paul
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - LeBron James
PF - Kevin Garnett
C - Dwight Howard

All NBA 2nd:
PG - Chauncey Billups
SG - Manu Ginobili
SF - Paul Pierce
PF - Dirk Nowitzki
C - Amare Stoudemire

All NBA 3rd:
PG - Allen Iverson
SG - Andre Iguodala
SF - Hedo Turkoglu
PF - Carlos Boozer
C - Tim Duncan

All NBA Defensive 1st:
PG - Chris Paul
SG - Manu Ginobili
SF - Paul Pierce
PF - Kevin Garnett
C - Dwight Howard

All NBA Defensive 2nd:
PG - Rajon Rondo
SG - Tracy McGrady
SF - James Posey
PF - Josh Smith
C - Tim Duncan

All NBA Defensive 3rd:
PG - Chauncey Billups
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - Shane Battier
PF - Antonio McDyess
C - Marcus Camby

DynastyInTheMaking · Post #6 » by **DynastyInTheMaking** » Thu Apr 3, 2008 4:56 am

*Manu Ginobli is eligible for the award and will clearly win it.

MVP: Chris Paul
DPOY: Dwight Howard
ROY: Al Horford
Most Improved Player: Mike Dunleavy
6th Man: Ginobli
Coach of the Year: Byron Scott

All NBA First Team:
PG: Chris Paul
SG: Kobe Bryant
SF: LeBron James
PF: Kevin Garnett
C: Dwight Howard

PG: Steve Nash
SG: Tracy McGrady
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: Carlos Boozer
C: Amare Stoudemire

PG: Chauncey Billups
SG: Allen Iverson
SF: Carmelo Anthony
PF: Antawn Jamison
C: Marcus Camby

Post #7 » by **tlee324** » Thu Apr 3, 2008 6:18 am

Bleeding Green, I find it very interesting and actually valid that Chris Paul is your most improved player this year.

Post #8 » by **Bleeding Green** » Thu Apr 3, 2008 6:27 am

Well he was no doubt a very good PG last year, but I think he's catapulted himself to a level a PG hasn't played at since Magic was in his prime.

Kinda scary that he's only 22.

Post #9 » by **tlee324** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 11:56 am

I'm only going to bump this once, just to see if anyone else wants to partake.

tombattor · Post #10 » by **tombattor** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 3:07 pm

MVP: Kevin Garnett
Defensive player of the Year: Kevin Garnett
6th Man: Manu Ginobili
Rookie of the Year: Kevin Durant
Most Improved Player: Hedo Turkoglu
Coach of the Year: Byron Scott
GM of the Year: Danny Ainge

I think the first team is pretty much set in stone.

PG: Paul
SG: Kobe
SF: Bron
PF: KG
C: D-Howard

Rocky5000 · Post #11 » by **Rocky5000** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 2:42 am

Why does YAO get no consideration for 1st,2nd,3rd team? Is he ineligible?

threrf23 · Post #12 » by **threrf23** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 5:39 am

MVP: Chris Paul (Lebron gets honorable mention)

Defensive player of the Year: Kevin Garnett

6th Man: Louis Williams (JR Smith gets honorable mention, I am not counting Terry Barbosa or Ginobli)

Rookie of the Year: Al Horford (though I like Thad Young and obviously Durant moving forward)

Most Improved Player: Andrew Bynum if he counts (Leon Powe Linus Kleiza David West and Rajon Rondo get honorable mentions)

Coach of the Year: Nate McMillan (Byron Scott and Mo Cheeks get honorable mentions)

Exec of the Year: Danny Ainge

Most inflated contract of the offseason: Chris Kaman

All NBA 1st:
PG - Chris Paul
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - LeBron James
PF - Kevin Garnett
C - Dwight Howard

All NBA 2nd:
PG - Chauncey Billups
SG - Manu Ginobili
SF - Paul Pierce
PF - Chris Bosh
C - Tim Duncan

All NBA 3rd:
PG - Steve Nash
SG - Tracy McGrady
SF - Josh Howard
PF - Dirk Nowitzki
C - Marcus Camby

All NBA Defensive 1st:
PG - Rafer Alston
SG - Manu Ginobili
SF - Shane Battier
PF - Kevin Garnett
C - Dwight Howard

All NBA Defensive 2nd:
PG - Chris Paul
SG - Paul Pierce
SF - Lebron James
PF - Tim Duncan
C - Emeka Okafor

All NBA Defensive 3rd:
PG - Rajon Rondo
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - Josh Howard
PF - Shawn Marion
C - Marcus Camby

Post #13 » by **Bleeding Green** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 6:17 am

Rocky5000 wrote:Why does YAO get no consideration for 1st,2nd,3rd team? Is he ineligible?

He's going to miss like 27 games. Hard to be one of the most productive players in basketball when you play 75% as many games as other excellent players.

tombattor · Post #14 » by **tombattor** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 2:19 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
He's going to miss like 27 games. Hard to be one of the most productive players in basketball when you play 75% as many games as other excellent players.

Exactly. Had he not gotten injured, he'd probably be on the 2nd team All NBA.

Post #15 » by **UGA Hayes** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 3:36 pm

MVP: Chris Paul
Defensive player of the Year: Kevin Garnett
6th Man: Manu Ginobili
Rookie of the Year: Luis Scola
Most Improved Player: Leon Powe
Coach of the Year: Doc Rivers
GM of the Year: Danny Ainge

All NBA 1st:
PG - Chris Paul
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - LeBron James
PF - Kevin Garnett
C - Tim Duncan

All NBA 2nd:
PG - Chauncey Billups
SG - Manu Ginobili
SF - Carmelo Anthony
PF - Amare Stoudamire
C - Dwight Howard

All NBA 3rd:
PG - Steve Nash
SG - Kevin Martin
SF - Paul Pierce
PF - Dirk Nowitzski
C - Al Jefferson

All NBA Defensive 1st:
PG - Chris Paul
SG - Manu Ginobili
SF - Shane Battier
PF - Kevin Garnett
C - Dwight Howard

All NBA Defensive 2nd:
PG - Chauncey Billups
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - Tayshaun Prince
PF - Tim Duncan
C - Perkins

All NBA Defensive 3rd:
PG - Rajon Rondo
SG - Ronnie Brewer
SF - Josh Howard
PF - Josh Smith
C- Mutombo

Prue · Post #16 » by **Prue** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 4:49 pm

MVP Kobe (I don't care for him but still he's the best player)
Defensive Player of the year Garnett
ROY Durant
6th man Ginobili
Most improved Jose Calderon (would have been Bynum had he not been injured)
Executive of the year Danny Ainge (although Portlands GM Pritchard I think did a great job this year and his team stayed respectable)
Coach of the year Doc Rivers (Adleman close second)

DynastyInTheMaking · Post #17 » by **DynastyInTheMaking** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 7:07 pm

threrf23 wrote:MVP: Chris Paul (Lebron gets honorable mention)

Defensive player of the Year: Kevin Garnett

6th Man: Louis Williams (JR Smith gets honorable mention, I am not counting Terry Barbosa or Ginobli)

Rookie of the Year: Al Horford (though I like Thad Young and obviously Durant moving forward)

Most Improved Player: Andrew Bynum if he counts (Leon Powe Linus Kleiza David West and Rajon Rondo get honorable mentions)

Coach of the Year: Nate McMillan (Byron Scott and Mo Cheeks get honorable mentions)

Exec of the Year: Danny Ainge

Most inflated contract of the offseason: Chris Kaman

Is it rude to bash someones post in this thread? Because I think this one certainly deserves some.

Louis Williams or JR Smith? WHAT? Why would you not count Barbosa orparticularly Ginobli (clearly the top 2 guys in this) but you'll give MIP to a guy who barely played.

5 guys mention for MIP, 2 are homer votes, one only played a handful of games and the rest dont even include the likely winner in Hedu and/or possible winner in Dunleavy.

Why would nate McMillan win coach of the year? Because his #1 pick got hurt and they still didnt make the playoffs? Scott and Cheeks will surely get more votes than him while Doc and Adleman will be in the running to.

threrf23 · Post #18 » by **threrf23** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 9:15 pm

DynastyInTheMaking wrote:
Louis Williams or JR Smith? WHAT? Why would you not count Barbosa orparticularly Ginobli (clearly the top 2 guys in this) but you'll give MIP to a guy who barely played.

Louis Williams came off the bench as a 6th man every game this season. Terry/Ginobili/Barbosa all started between 10-30 games and I just have a hard time viewing them as 6th men.

5 guys mention for MIP, 2 are homer votes,

Did Powe and Rondo not improve this season?

one only played a handful of games

Bynum played 35 games and would have seemingly been the clear, longshot winner if he had stayed healthy

and the rest dont even include the likely winner in Hedu and/or possible winner in Dunleavy.

I could care less if Turkoglu is the "likely" winner. He was good before last season. A variety of stats indicates little improvement. He was used more by the Magic's offense, maybe or maybe not making him a better scorer, but the other options around him didn't make him a higher % scorer nor did they keep him from becoming more turnover prone. Slightly more assists, but he had better options around him. Frankly, the Magic got better from the year before because Dwight Howard continued to improve and Rashard Lewis replaced nobody worthwile. Turk improved a little bit but it was partially a result of his surroundings.

Dunleavy meanwhile benefitted from playing in a system that benefitted him more. He stepped up his 3 pt shooting (on a team ran by Jim O'Brien) but was slightly worse in at least some categories. He became a better shooter, but didn't really improve elsewhere.

In any event, I think Chris Kaman will be named MIP

Why would nate McMillan win coach of the year?

Because the Blazers were among the worst teams in the league last season and their roster - which hardly included any vets - was hardly upgraded at all this season (they added Steve Blake but he had never been an impact player and they were already strong @ PG). Yet the Blazers were a respectable team and at one point put together a very impressive win streak during which time they were hard to beat. And, you won't even hear any of their player's names as widely mentioned MIP candidates. Nate McMillan simply did the most with the a team that people thought was a joke beginning of the season (and there wasn't even any reason to doubt those doubters, either).

Scott and Cheeks will surely get more votes than him

Maybe, both are strong candidates as is Phil Jackson IMO, but Scott has the MVP playing for him in addition to a healthy Peja and one of my considerations for MIP, and Paul, West, Chandler had been starting together (with Peja at times) for long enough to have already developed healthy chemistry

Cheeks just had a better cast of players than McMIllan, IMO, all things considered, and had a guy like Andre Miller (and Iggy) capable of providing vet leadership. Portland has virtually the same record as Philly too, despite playing in a stronger conference

while Doc and Adleman will be in the running to.

Maybe, but why the hell do I care. Doc had a great cast of players to work with, and a great assistant in Tom Thibodeau. Good job, I'll let outsiders judge and really I don't see how I could argue against that, but I can't give him as much credit as others. Adelman? I could list at least 3 or 4 reasons, Yao not included, the Rockets should have been expected to improve on their 52 win season a year ago (Yao was injured last year too). They improved a slight bit once all is said and done. Adelman did his job, but it was nothing amazing IMO.

DynastyInTheMaking · Post #19 » by **DynastyInTheMaking** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 7:31 am

thererf- clearly after that lengthy response you stand by your choices. But it also seems like your choices is your own personal preference or an "underdog" of sorts rather than who you think will legit win the awards.

Criteria to win 6th man clear, that doesn't mean someone who started a few games wont win it. Someone who didnt even play half the season isn't going to win an award even if he would have clearly won it had he played the whole season. Rondo and Powe improved but partly because of who was around them, while Rondo should get votes they're not truly in the running for the award. McMillian is more likely to win the award next year. Having a possible MVP on your team doesnt make you any less likely to win COY - especially considering they weren't in the playoffs last year and now you are potentially a #1 seed. That goes for Byron and obviously Doc too.

No point in arguing didnt mean to offend you.

BobbySura · Post #20 » by **BobbySura** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 7:47 am

wow.

terrible lack of votes for horford ROY.

and hedo and aldridge for most improved.

and manu and barbosa are the only two people that should be anywhere near the 6th man award