Wolves picking 2nd, Rose gone...

Blue Wolf · Post #1 » by **Blue Wolf** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 6:28 pm

The no-brainer pick here is obviously Beasley. The problem for the Wolves here is that while you may be able to get away with playing Beasley at the 3 for one year -- he is an NBA power forward. Long-term, I think that's where he has to play. Unfortunately, this moves Al out of position to the 5 and creates a somewhat undersized frontcourt that while tremendously gifted in terms of offensive talent, would also be somewhat defensively-challenged.

So suppose this scenario takes place, do you consider trading Al for value at another position? What if a team like New York offers the #3 or #4 pick, a soon-to-be expiring contract, plus talent/future picks?

As much as I love Al, I think Beasley duplicates Al's skills and then some. Me, I'd seriously consider it...what say you?

Post #2 » by **Calinks** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 6:41 pm

No way do I trade Al Jefferson. Hell no.

B Calrissian · Post #3 » by **B Calrissian** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 6:49 pm

I would rather take offers on Beasley. I really have no idea what teams would offer for him. Maybe we could trade him+miami pick for Rudy Gay+their pick (Lopez). I don't know if that is close to fair value but I think that Gay would be a better fit than Beasley.

Post #4 » by **Worm Guts** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 6:52 pm

I'd let it play out, see how they work together, see if Beasley could play the 3, see who I like better then I'd figure it out next year.

Post #5 » by **Worm Guts** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 6:53 pm

Calinks3 wrote:No way do I trade Al Jefferson. Hell no.

As good as Al is, he shouldn't be untradeable.

funkatron101 · Post #6 » by **funkatron101** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 6:53 pm

At this point AL > Beasley. It would be far to risky and foolish to trade Al and keep Beasley. History might dictate otherwise, but I can't imagine any team doing this.

Post #7 » by **Worm Guts** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 6:57 pm

funkatron101 wrote:At this point AL > Beasley. It would be far to risky and foolish to trade Al and keep Beasley. History might dictate otherwise, but I can't imagine any team doing this.

It depends what you can get.

Post #8 » by **C.lupus** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 6:57 pm

Worm Guts wrote:As good as Al is, he shouldn't be untradeable.

I think he is untradeable more because we traded KG for him than his actual talent.

big3_8_19_21 · Post #9 » by **big3_8_19_21** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:11 pm

I hear his talent ain't too bad neither.

idk if this would work, but I'd try to trade our 2nd rounders up for Robin Lopez and then try to ship Robin Lopez, Michael Beasley and Miami's 1st next year for Gay and Brook Lopez

B Calrissian · Post #10 » by **B Calrissian** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:15 pm

^ That is probably closer to fair value than my version. I have wanted Darko on the Wovles for awhile so maybe a Beasley/Jaric/boston 1st for Gay/Darko/Lowry would work. Again I don't know what Beasley's value is or Gay's either, so this could be way off.

funkatron101 · Post #11 » by **funkatron101** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:25 pm

Worm Guts wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

It depends what you can get.

The only guys I would want are the same guys we couldn't get.

I would think that dangling Al, we would get one or two more potential guys, scrubs and expirings/cash.

I would much rather keep Al and Beasley, than try to build around Beasley.

PeeDee · Post #12 » by **PeeDee** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:37 pm

I think some of us get way too caught up in position titles. Imo, a team does not have to be made up with a protypical C, PF, SF, SG, PG.

Likewise, I'm the opinion that Beasley is a superior athlete and as such will be able to adapt to defending players of his similar skill set, whatever position that might be.

That said, I roll with both and add a center to the mix. This way we can reap the rewards of the versitility of both Big Al and Beasley. Check it...

Jefferson can play C and PF.

I (and lots of others) think Beasley can play SF and PF

Add in Brewer who can play SF and SG, and you can give teams ALOT of different looks.

If we land Beasley theres not way I deal either of them unless someone is offerring me something I cant refuse.

jpatrick · Post #13 » by **jpatrick** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 7:56 pm

I "think" Beasley and Al could play together, but I don't think it's optimal. Whether they play the 3/4 or 4/5 I think's it's a defensive liability. However, unless I get blown away by an offer I give it a try.

What if the Bulls desperate for a low post scorer offered something like....

Deng (he's a RFA so trade would have to be after draft sign/trade)
Noah or Tyrus Thomas
Their Lotto Pick (Randolph, Gallinari, Thabeet, Augustine, etc.)

for

Rights to Beasley
Filler

I'm not sure if the Bulls do this, but they are a team that almost has to shake it up this offseason.

deeney0 · Post #14 » by **deeney0** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 8:04 pm

Try them together for at least a year, preferably two.

big3_8_19_21 · Post #15 » by **big3_8_19_21** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 8:08 pm

I think they probably could play together a la Jefferson and Gomes when we had Theo on the court with them. To way oversimplify it Beasley is essentially a much more gifted version of Ryan Gomes.

prefuse73 · Post #16 » by **prefuse73** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 8:09 pm

deeney0 wrote:Try them together for at least a year, preferably two.

respectfully disagree. Sell high on Beasley now. If we could net Rudy and Brook for Beasley and our 2 2nd rounders...you gotta think about it.

Lopez - Richard
Jefferson - Gomes
Gay - Gomes
Brewer - McCants
Foye - Telfair

Krapinsky · Post #17 » by **Krapinsky** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 9:02 pm

prefuse73 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

respectfully disagree. Sell high on Beasley now. If we could net Rudy and Brook for Beasley and our 2 2nd rounders...you gotta think about it.

Lopez - Richard
Jefferson - Gomes
Gay - Gomes
Brewer - McCants
Foye - Telfair

This is a ridiculous post Prefuse. No offense, but Memphis is not trading Gay and Lopez for Beasley, let alone Gay for Beasley. You are vastly underrating Gay. By the end of next year he could be a top 10 NBA talent.

Krapinsky · Post #18 » by **Krapinsky** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 9:06 pm

jpatrick wrote:I "think" Beasley and Al could play together, but I don't think it's optimal. Whether they play the 3/4 or 4/5 I think's it's a defensive liability. However, unless I get blown away by an offer I give it a try.

What if the Bulls desperate for a low post scorer offered something like....

Deng (he's a RFA so trade would have to be after draft sign/trade)
Noah or Tyrus Thomas
Their Lotto Pick (Randolph, Gallinari, Thabeet, Augustine, etc.)

for

Rights to Beasley
Filler

I'm not sure if the Bulls do this, but they are a team that almost has to shake it up this offseason.

This is also ridiculous. This is arguably more than we got for KG and more than what the Bulls were offering for Kobe.

mandurugo · Post #19 » by **mandurugo** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 9:22 pm

Going back to the original scenario, I'd be willing to trade Al. No one on this team is off the trade table for me given the right offer. I think there is a very good chance that Beasley will become better than Al, but really who can say until they play it out.

PaintPatrol · Post #20 » by **PaintPatrol** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 9:51 pm

I would want to keep both of them.