Shocking Draft Measurements

Joseph17 · Post #1 » by **Joseph17** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 2:49 am

I was looking at the draft measurements of the previous years and I was shocked at what I saw.
Luke Jackson and Chris Humphries can jump higher than Dwight Howard, JR Smith, and Andre Igoudala. David Lee and Marvin Williams ran the 3/4 court sprint faster than Monta Ellis and Chris Paul. Luke Jackson also bench pressed more than Dwight Howard.
I don't know how accurate this site is. Here's the link.
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-dra ... =0&sort=12

ljp24 · Post #2 » by **ljp24** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 2:57 am

were they even trying? NBA scouts don't masturbate over them like the NFL right?

Serpo · Post #3 » by **Serpo** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 3:00 am

Jackson was already 22 of course he could press more then the bearly 19 year old Howard could.

TheSheriff · Post #4 » by **TheSheriff** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 3:03 am

ljp24 wrote:were they even trying? NBA scouts don't masturbate over them like the NFL right?

Only when something really stands out, like Durant being unable to do a single rep on the bench press, and even that didn't keep him from going second overall.

OhMyBosh · Post #5 » by **OhMyBosh** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 3:05 am

The only measurement that had for Yi other than his height and weight is his max vert.

38 inches? Give me a break.

Post #6 » by **dbodner** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 3:14 am

Long, lanky players generally do worse in bench press and vertical. It all has to be taken in context.

and all is generally meaningless IMO. I put most stock in the quickness and agility, but even that I don't think is all that meaningful.

Length. Standing reach. wingspan. Those matter somewhat.

The_Believer · Post #7 » by **The_Believer** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 4:15 am

monta was hurt in his, so obviously he'd be slower

carrottop12 · Post #8 » by **carrottop12** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 5:32 am

Yeah, Humphries had a crazy pre-draft measurement series. That kid was supposed to be a stud coming out of college.

Unfortunately he was a dud.

These are fun to go back and look at. For example, Chris Paul and Deron Williams had the highest verticles for the top 15 players chosen in their draft, Paul with 38 and Deron with 35.

Super Bad · Post #9 » by **Super Bad** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 6:53 am

It's not that important in the NBA compared to the NFL, if what you are saying is true then that pretty funny. I didn't know that Luke Jackson was such the work out warrior, it really translated on the court :wink:

Post #10 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 8:53 am

I think my favorite is Smush Parker having a standing reach of just under 9', it was about the same as Al Horfords IIRC.

Athletic, with super length, strong body..... and he's garbage.

noido · Post #11 » by **noido** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 10:11 am

The thing is that NFL players train for the combine after the college season, desperately trying to shave hundredths of a second off their 40.
NBA players go to work on their skills because people dont care about it as much.

Although i still think anyone weighing 185 should be able to press 185 after 3 months training

Jemini80 · Post #12 » by **Jemini80** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 10:23 am

So i am assuming this is how Luke Jackson tricked the Cavs into taking him with a lottery pick?

Post #13 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 11:17 am

noido wrote:The thing is that NFL players train for the combine after the college season, desperately trying to shave hundredths of a second off their 40.
NBA players go to work on their skills because people dont care about it as much.

Although i still think anyone weighing 185 should be able to press 185 after 3 months training

Not if you are 6'10, with a tiny chest, yet still boasting a 7'5 wingspan.

kooldude · Post #14 » by **kooldude** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 7:47 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:I think my favorite is Smush Parker having a standing reach of just under 9', it was about the same as Al Horfords IIRC.

Athletic, with super length, strong body..... and he's garbage.

how is that possible.....

Post #15 » by **Schad** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 7:54 pm

Batronuj wrote:Yeah, Humphries had a crazy pre-draft measurement series. That kid was supposed to be a stud coming out of college.

Unfortunately he was a dud.

Unfortunately, wingspan does not equate to IQ...Humphries is about two standard deviations away from being an exceptional player.

Post #16 » by **og15** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 8:51 pm

joeyyowee wrote:I was looking at the draft measurements of the previous years and I was shocked at what I saw.
Luke Jackson and Chris Humphries can jump higher than Dwight Howard, JR Smith, and Andre Igoudala. David Lee and Marvin Williams ran the 3/4 court sprint faster than Monta Ellis and Chris Paul. Luke Jackson also bench pressed more than Dwight Howard.
I don't know how accurate this site is. Here's the link.
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-dra ... =0&sort=12

Without the ball, straight down the court sprint, why not? Let's add dribbling and changing directions to that, and it's a whole different story :wink:

Jsun947 · Post #17 » by **Jsun947** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 1:13 am

Brandon Roy and Rudy Gay both have a 40" Vert.

Roy never gets credit for his athletic ability because he uses his head before his body.

Post #18 » by **TMU** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 2:48 am

Jemini80 wrote:So i am assuming this is how Luke Jackson tricked the Cavs into taking him with a lottery pick?

Post #19 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 3:36 am

kooldude wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

how is that possible.....

6'10 wingspan, 8'11.5 standing reach......

carrottop12 · Post #20 » by **carrottop12** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 6:00 am

Schadenfreude wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Unfortunately, wingspan does not equate to IQ...Humphries is about two 0's short on his IQ test from being an exceptional player.

Fixed.