Augustin or Collison?

notque · Post #1 » by **notque** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:16 am

So very sad.

Post #2 » by **APerna** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:19 am

Well, we do need a pure point - and I see D.J. as that.

xxSnEaKyPxx · Post #3 » by **xxSnEaKyPxx** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:30 am

I'd take Ty Lawson over either of them.

Post #4 » by **APerna** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:39 am

I doubt he'll declare

xxSnEaKyPxx · Post #5 » by **xxSnEaKyPxx** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:00 am

PacerPerspective wrote:I doubt he'll declare

I hope not. Go Heels!

*Waves biased flag*

Post #6 » by **PR07** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:18 am

Augustin, easily. I also wouldn't touch Lawson. Can you say Marcus Banks?

FreeRon · Post #7 » by **FreeRon** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:43 am

Marcus Banks isn't a bad idea if we're talking a 10-11 pick considering how many of those players end up in the D-League or jumping around teams at the end of the bench. He may be well overpaid, but you don't have to pay a player equal to his NBA comparison. All that being said, Augustin hands down.

JarrettJackSG · Post #8 » by **JarrettJackSG** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:45 am

Augustin I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole, he makes our defense even weaker.

laydo · Post #9 » by **laydo** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:05 am

They are both too short and skinny to be a starter, especially when facing 6'3 hight PGs.

greenway84 · Post #10 » by **greenway84** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:49 pm

To be honest the only way I would want to draft any point guard excluding bayless or rose. I s if we are trading JO otherwise I would like to package our first rounder with Ike for an experienced pg. JO isn't going to want to wait on a pg to develop and I dont blame him. I guess it just depends on the JO situation. I mean dunleavy and granger have came into there own this season JO should be back strong next season, and Foster well he's foster. So you get a talented experienced pg to run that squad and i se playoffs in our future.

old school pacer fan · Post #11 » by **old school pacer fan** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:11 pm

I say NO and NO , both overated.

Jamont Gordon :clap:

ahartleyvu · Post #12 » by **ahartleyvu** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:18 pm

NEITHER

CableKC · Post #13 » by **CableKC** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:54 pm

Since I don't think that Tinsley is going to be traded anytime soon.....I say neither.

I agree with old school pacer fan, both are overrated and neither is going to help us anytime soon.

Draft Westbrook ( assuming that Kevin Love isn't available, Marquis is traded before training Camp and Kareem/Flip aren't resigned ) and play him as a backup SG and see if he can develop into the type of Combo PG that we want.

At worst, he can be the perimeter Defending Guard that we want and a decent Backup SG to play behnd Dunleavy, Granger and Shawne at the SG/SF rotation. At best, he becomes a much better verison of the type of Combo Guard that Bird likes to have on the team.

cdash · Post #14 » by **cdash** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:48 pm

Oh please. If it were down to those two, I'd take Augustin. He will be an effective pro, a solid starter. He's not much (if any) smaller than Chris Paul, and he doesnt seem to have too many issues with the pro game. There are only like four or five big point guards in the NBA that punish smaller guys, so its not that big of a deal. I also wouldnt touch Lawson with a 10 foot cattle prod. He does absolutely nothing for me. I am not a huge fan of Collison, but if this poll were say, Westbrook or Augustin, then I'd probably have to take Westbrook. I dont think theres any way Tinsley is back next year, so I think we need a point guard first and foremost...and something tells me we wont be getting one in free agency.

glasket · Post #15 » by **glasket** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:21 pm

Out of those two i'd probably take Augustin.

However I am hoping, ok really hoping that Bayliss is available or we make a deal to move up and draft him. He would be my number one (assuming Rose and Mayo are out of the question).

I would also probably prefer Westbrook or Mario Chalmers over Collison or Augustin simply becuase they are both terrif perimiter defenders and thats something we need and I believe they can be solid hybrid type PG/SG players, kind of like Monta Ellis.

ahartleyvu · Post #16 » by **ahartleyvu** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:23 am

Westbook is basically a small shooting guard. Not really a fan of combo guards anyway.

ajizzle · Post #17 » by **ajizzle** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:37 pm

Mario Chalmers!!!

Post #18 » by **Grang33r** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:44 pm

I like Augustin alot. I think he may be a great pro. I don't like Collison. Too small. When the last time UCLA developed a great PG anyways? Tyus Edney was amazing for them and what he do in the pros? He had way too much talent around him, even a regular joe could get decent stats on UCLA, he was their 3rd scoring option and had 3 good guys to pass to. No defense stuck on him.

Augustin was the man of the show for Texas though.

cdash · Post #19 » by **cdash** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:26 pm

Grang33r wrote:I like Augustin alot. I think he may be a great pro. I don't like Collison. Too small. When the last time UCLA developed a great PG anyways? Tyus Edney was amazing for them and what he do in the pros? He had way too much talent around him, even a regular joe could get decent stats on UCLA, he was their 3rd scoring option and had 3 good guys to pass to. No defense stuck on him.

Augustin was the man of the show for Texas though.

Baron Davis.

a-rod · Post #20 » by **a-rod** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:26 am

Augustin would be a perfect fit for Jim O'Brien system.