How do we fix our problem?

Sports Arsenal · Post #21 » by **Sports Arsenal** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:27 pm

Maybe we should start fresh with younger less injury prone players?
I can not fathom (sp?) the thought of trading Yao or McGrady but damn those guys miss a lot of basketball

Post #22 » by **TMACFORMVP** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:10 am

The problem is:

1.) Yao's impact in terms of revenue and being one of the top big men in the league makes him virtually one of those "You never trade unless they demand a trade" type of players. His impact on the franchise her been huge and again the NBA is a business.

2.) I don't think we can really afford to trade McGrady at this point. His value is at an all time low (non-efficient, injury prone, and not mentally tough enough at times) and there's no way we could get equal value back if we wanted to win now. Even if we wanted to go younger, I doubt we could get anything of real value for him at this point, possibly expirings but he's a FA after next season so that's pretty useless.

I think we try one more year of this duo considering the circumstances of all the injuries and what we were able to accomplish despite all that (55 wins and HC in the playoffs). If we can improve the talent more and win meaning advancing a couple rounds then we can go from there, BUT if we lose in the first round POSSIBLY even regarding injuries it'd be time to part ways with McGrady and try to rebuild.

Ballito · Post #23 » by **Ballito** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:26 am

More scoring is need to share the offensive load. as of right now their throwing everything at tmac and the scoring hasnt been picked up by the bench as it should be

moofs · Post #24 » by **moofs** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:53 am

The scoring hasn't been picked up by the bench because the bench is starting.

Iggyemu · Post #25 » by **Iggyemu** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:20 am

realfung wrote:T-Mac shot selection, need a pass first PG and Yao.

Alston is pass first. Believe it or not we need a scoring PG. One that can make open 3s and penetrate and finish. McGrady is the set up man...he always has been. Have to give him better finishers.

Iggyemu · Post #26 » by **Iggyemu** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:28 am

TMACFORMVP wrote:The problem is:

1.) Yao's impact in terms of revenue and being one of the top big men in the league makes him virtually one of those "You never trade unless they demand a trade" type of players. His impact on the franchise her been huge and again the NBA is a business.

2.) I don't think we can really afford to trade McGrady at this point. His value is at an all time low (non-efficient, injury prone, and not mentally tough enough at times) and there's no way we could get equal value back if we wanted to win now. Even if we wanted to go younger, I doubt we could get anything of real value for him at this point, possibly expirings but he's a FA after next season so that's pretty useless.

I think we try one more year of this duo considering the circumstances of all the injuries and what we were able to accomplish despite all that (55 wins and HC in the playoffs). If we can improve the talent more and win meaning advancing a couple rounds then we can go from there, BUT if we lose in the first round POSSIBLY even regarding injuries it'd be time to part ways with McGrady and try to rebuild.

I think as Boston showed us and as the Lakers showed us you can go from where we are or worst to on top of the league in about a month. The problem for this team always remains injuries. McGrady may have solved his back problem but his body is so fragile that any little thing seems affect him. He might play through it but it affects his game.

Yao is the bigger issue. Guys his size ALWAYS have foot problems. I think we are fooling ourselves thinking that will change. His minutes IMO have to be severely cut down to avoid injuries. I mean he has to play about 25-28 mins a night. No more than that. He can't go 35-38 mins the way he was during this season. Yao is not gonna be traded. The Rockets would never do it. I think McGrady will get a pass this year since he is the only NBA caliber player on the floor for the Rockets during these playoffs.

Battier and Scola are fine at the PF/SF spot. We need a hybrid PF/C type of player to replace Deke and provide the defense that Scola cannot. The point guard is the biggest area. And I imagine we'll try to address that b/c all the other positions are pretty set.

Post #27 » by **TMU** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:16 am

Why can't our players just grind it out like the San Antonio Spurs?

CuttingEdge · Post #28 » by **CuttingEdge** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:41 am

It's time to put some liability on Scola. A guy of that calibur on the international stage that plays alongside Ginobli oughtta be better than how he's been performing. To be honest, Scola was suppose to be that PF/SF/C tribrid that would have made the Rockets a contender even without Yao but he has be disappointing. How can a guy with that type of game showcase it so intermittently? There are things he does that makes you feel confided. All the little tricks and knowing the game but then he makes some stupid mistakes by fouling. Pushing off or holding back with his arms. And he can't jump. Scola has the second best post game behind Yao but he can't jump and gets blocked way too often.

YoungMoney23 · Post #29 » by **YoungMoney23** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:33 am

Either bring in RJ or Mike Miller as the 3rd scorer and an upgrade at the point to control the tempo of the game. Gutting the bench to get rid of scrubs like Head would also help since they give us nothing in the playoffs.

moofs · Post #30 » by **moofs** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:18 pm

CuttingEdge wrote:It's time to put some liability on Scola. A guy of that calibur on the international stage that plays alongside Ginobli oughtta be better than how he's been performing. To be honest, Scola was suppose to be that PF/SF/C tribrid that would have made the Rockets a contender even without Yao but he has be disappointing. How can a guy with that type of game showcase it so intermittently? There are things he does that makes you feel confided. All the little tricks and knowing the game but then he makes some stupid mistakes by fouling. Pushing off or holding back with his arms. And he can't jump. Scola has the second best post game behind Yao but he can't jump and gets blocked way too often.

So you're saying he's not capable of being an All-Star and carrying an NBA team by himself? This is not acceptable from a second round pick!!!

He actually doesn't get blocked very often at all. It's amazing really, although he has been having troubles this series because of how much Utah is clogging the lane.

Post #31 » by **TMU** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:46 pm

moofs wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

So you're saying he's not capable of being an All-Star and carrying an NBA team by himself? This is not acceptable from a second round pick!!!

He actually doesn't get blocked very often at all. It's amazing really, although he has been having troubles this series because of how much Utah is clogging the lane.

Good post. On top of that, to say he's capable of playing C imo is laughable.