"The" Call: refs cheat the Rox?

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Post#141 » by KiDdFrESh » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:05 am

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You've got to be kidding. He's had about 10 this series alone. He's the classic flopper in the taking charges sense. In game 1 he actually fell down anticipating the contact before anyone touched him. Battier flops like a fish.


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Flopping is so pathetic in this series and we have seen some more of that from the Rockets than usual. Some were called and others were ignored. And as a Rockets fan I hate watching it because thats not what we are about. But if the refs are calling it on us, then we might as well try to take advantage of it at some points. The SAD thing is though how much Utah has mastered the art. It seems at some points of the game they do it strategically in attempt to alter the game. Thats weak! Play the game the way its suppose to be played. Its funny because you dont even see it half the time because your accustomed to watching that type of play on a nightly basis for the past 20+ year !!!! Thats from as far back as I can remember because im just turning 24 myself.


Look, I'll admit there has been the Rockets share of flopping this series, but all we are doing is adjusting to the way the Jazz play. You have to do that when Utah is one of the most difficult teams to officiate against. The Jazz have been playing that way forever now. Battier finished 3rd in DPOY voting and just 3 votes short of 2nd. He is a hard nose defender who isnt scared to put his body on the line. That is why he draws the charges that he does. Thats how he built his rep. Anybody who watches him would know that. He was the same way in Memphis. Yeah hes flopped here and there but if the refs are gonna call it then it might as well go both ways right? But that definatley isnt Battiers game.
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Post#142 » by Nate505 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:09 am

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Look, I'll admit there has been the Rockets share of flopping this series, but all we are doing is adjusting to the way the Jazz play.

His worst one came within the first five minutes of the first quarter in the first game. He "adjusted" that quickly?
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Post#143 » by JoshB914 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:11 am

The foul on Scola in game 2 was a foul.

The foul on T-Mac tonight was a foul.

You Rox fans need to realize that just because a guy flops, doesn't mean it isn't a foul. In both situation, you had a Rocket creating contact with another Utah player off the ball. Tonight TMac CLEARLY pushed off on AK 47. Just because AK made a meal of it doesn't mean it isn't a foul.
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Post#144 » by KiDdFrESh » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:13 am

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His worst one came within the first five minutes of the first quarter in the first game. He "adjusted" that quickly?


Hell yeah.. lets not forget who we are going up against now ok?
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Post#145 » by Nate505 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:20 am

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Hell yeah.. lets not forget who we are going up against now ok?


Touche :)
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Post#146 » by JStockLivesOn » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:31 am

Battier's life's work is flopping. To presume otherwise is pure insanity, as it dates back to his days at Duke. I don't begrudge him that, though, in the same way I don't begrudge AK or Raja Bell or anyone else the flopping. It's annoying as hell when it happens to you, but it's a wily thing to do.

Would I like to see less of it in general? Absolutely. But to a point, it's just gamesmanship.
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Post#147 » by MrCheerios » Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:29 pm

I've noticed the floppers flop against each other and the actual tough players bust each other up. AK flops against Scola all the time and he's not even Scola's assigned man. He makes it seem like Scola just punched him in the face. Meanwhile, Boozer (who's never flopped) knocks out Landry's tooth and we can't even tell until the slow motion replay. It's polar opposite between these two groups of players.
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Post#148 » by xcomputerman » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:28 pm

Attention Utah Jazz Fans:

This is how to take a charge.

This is what Jazz players do.

One of these things is not like the other.
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Post#149 » by Nate505 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:29 pm

xcomputerman wrote:Attention Utah Jazz Fans:

This is how to take a charge.

This is what Jazz players do.

One of these things is not like the other.


Wow, who can argue with unbiased evidence like this?
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Post#150 » by TiMacMania » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:31 pm

wow @ kirilenko @ the end of the game

what a bastard

this is the kinda thing that should not be allow TERRIBLE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9StU1aTrns8
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Post#151 » by Nate505 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:33 pm

TiMacMania wrote:wow @ kirilenko @ the end of the game

what a bastard

this is the kinda thing that should not be allow TERRIBLE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9StU1aTrns8

My god, have you run out of tissues at your house?
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Post#152 » by TiMacMania » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:34 pm

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My god, have you run out of tissues at your house?


how can you say its not that bad?

that kind of thing is terrible dude

if a rockets fans would have done that i would have been embarassed
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Post#153 » by Nate505 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:36 pm

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how can you say its not that bad?

that kind of thing is terrible dude

if a rockets fans would have done that i would have been embarassed

Last night in the fourth Bobby Jackson just fell flat on his ass after barely brushing into a pick.

That kind of thing is terrible dude.

Then again it gets hard to care about stuff that too much, because his flop didn't do anything.
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Post#154 » by xcomputerman » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:37 pm

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Wow, who can argue with unbiased evidence like this?


Indeed. This video evidence must be seriously biased because there is an abundance of footage out there that shows Andrei Kirilenko and other Jazz players actually stepping in to take a legitimate charge, and not flailing their arms wildly as though they'd just been blindsided by a mack truck. There is also an abundance of video footage out there that shows Shane Battier and other Rocket players snapping their heads back and flailing their arms whenever an opposing player comes within an inch of them. Obviously we should not pay attention to these videos, then, because they misrepresent the facts.
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Post#155 » by Nate505 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:41 pm

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Indeed. This video evidence must be seriously biased because there is an abundance of footage out there that shows Andrei Kirilenko and other Jazz players actually stepping in to take a legitimate charge, and not flailing their arms wildly as though they'd just been blindsided by a mack truck. There is also an abundance of video footage out there that shows Shane Battier and other Rocket players snapping their heads back and flailing their arms whenever an opposing player comes within an inch of them. Obviously we should not pay attention to these videos, then, because they misrepresent the facts.

Not all of us are obsessive whiners like clutchfans who post every little thing to youtube.
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Post#156 » by loserX » Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:07 pm

It was a flop (or at least an embellishment). Flopping is disgraceful. Every team in the league has floppers.

It was also a foul.

Saying "we got jobbed because we committed a foul and didn't get away with it" is pretty weak.

Jazz won game 2, and deserved to. Rockets won game 3, and deserved to.

Are we done now?

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