Marvin..

Hawkeyes · Post #1 » by **Hawkeyes** » Sat May 3, 2008 2:34 pm

Hats off to him for his great performance in game 6, and heart to come back into the game after hurting himself to provide some good defense. I know people always bash him due to the Paul situation, but Marvin didn't draft himself, Knight did. Marvin has become a good player, while Paul is great..but this guy has all of the upside in the world and has continued to improve while with the Hawks, and when Joe was getting doubled tonight he kept finding Marvin for jumpshots which was a key reason to us winning. Does anyone know his situation injury wise for game 7? We need him.

Master8492 · Post #2 » by **Master8492** » Sat May 3, 2008 3:10 pm

Some said that he's unmotivated and has no heart. I guess going back to the game last night after the sprain knee changed all that.

LL Cool Scott · Post #3 » by **LL Cool Scott** » Sat May 3, 2008 4:01 pm

Unfortunately, he'll probably never live down the Chris Paul comparisons. Some people were actually booing when Woodson put him back in for Childress early in the game. If he doesn't break out next year, people are really gonna turn on him.

High 5 · Post #4 » by **High 5** » Sat May 3, 2008 4:10 pm

One game doesn't change my opinion on him. He is being left wide open, he has to make plays and hit shots. He was absolutely brutal in game 5, bad or so-so in the rest.

ATLfan · Post #5 » by **ATLfan** » Sat May 3, 2008 4:11 pm

We need one more great game from Marvin.

JoshB914 · Post #6 » by **JoshB914** » Sat May 3, 2008 5:14 pm

See how much better our offense is when Marvin hits his shots? When they double JJ like that they are leaving him wide open every time, and we all know that he can hit that shot. I hope his knee is feeling better, we need to get some good minutes out of him.

Post #7 » by **HMFFL** » Sat May 3, 2008 5:15 pm

When Marvin fell to the ground I felt his pain due to some injuries I had during the past. He really proved he has heart by returning to the game.

Hawkeyes · Post #8 » by **Hawkeyes** » Sat May 3, 2008 5:20 pm

Marvin lives for big games..he had a GW shot vs Duke his freshman year..and had the go ahead tip in vs Illinois in the NC game that would prove to be the GW shot..

Skyhawk1 · Post #9 » by **Skyhawk1** » Sat May 3, 2008 6:39 pm

High 5 wrote:One game doesn't change my opinion on him. He is being left wide open, he has to make plays and hit shots. He was absolutely brutal in game 5, bad or so-so in the rest.

I totally agree with you. My thing with Marvin isn't even about his talent or anything. What bothers me the most is the lack of intension, passion, and desire. The other guys were playing their hearts out in the previous games and he was nowhere to help the team. I hope this game gave him some confidence. Now it's game 7, even if I had a broken foot or a sprained ankle I'd play that game. I just hope Marvin shows that kind of toughness.

JoshB914 · Post #10 » by **JoshB914** » Sat May 3, 2008 6:41 pm

ESPN is reporting that Marv is doubtful for tommorow. Although they also had a quote from Woody and he said he had a "gut feeling" that he would suit up.

ATLfan · Post #11 » by **ATLfan** » Sat May 3, 2008 6:47 pm

I think Marvin will gut it out and play tomorrow and have a big game.

LHughes/JSmooth · Post #12 » by **LHughes/JSmooth** » Sat May 3, 2008 6:49 pm

Marv is one of my fav players here on the Hawks, and while he is here, will always be, but I think he should just come off the bench, because match-up wise, even though he did make Paul Pierce go into foul trouble, Chill is playing with great hustle right now. Give Marvin Chill's mins and Chill, Marvin's mins. Just for this game. Try something different on the road.

IDoIt4TheA · Post #13 » by **IDoIt4TheA** » Sat May 3, 2008 7:08 pm

I think the biggest thing Marvin needs to improve on is his consistency. He has far too many games where he has disappeared on us. His footwork also needs a lot of work. He looks so clumsy out there, when he drives to the basket he usually loses his footing.

But let's not give up on him just yet. He has a sweet looking jumper and I like that he likes takes the ball to the rack. He has developed a nice little go-to hook shot too. He also is a pretty good defender.

I don't think he'll ever make us forget about not drafting Paul, but I would be ok with keeping him if he can keep his head in the game and be more consistent.

HoopsGuru25 · Post #14 » by **HoopsGuru25** » Sat May 3, 2008 7:19 pm

I think Marvin can become a pretty good player(not a star but pretty good). As said above....his footwork is AWFUL. He loses his balance nearly any time he attempts to drive to the whole in traffic. I think another thing he has to work on is just shooting 3s. He takes alot of set shots on the baseline a couple steps in and a lot of shots at the top of the key where he is only a couple steps in front of the 3 point line. He needs to work on shooting threes this summer and making sure he sets up outside the 3 point line.

High 5 · Post #15 » by **High 5** » Sun May 4, 2008 12:15 am

I know it won't happen, but I'd love to see Mario get the start like he did in the Kings game. He can hang with Pierce defensively and be a sparkplug on both ends. If only for a small stretch to start the game I'd like to see it.

But like I said, it won't happen. Especially in a game 7.

_BBIB_ · Post #16 » by **_BBIB_** » Sun May 4, 2008 1:18 am

LL Cool Scott wrote:Unfortunately, he'll probably never live down the Chris Paul comparisons. Some people were actually booing when Woodson put him back in for Childress early in the game. If he doesn't break out next year, people are really gonna turn on him.

Turn on him? They turned against him in his 1st year as a starter.

I personally can't wait until Acie Law becomes our starting PG and the core of this team develops.

With this core, we don't need a top 3-5 player in the NBA to contend.

But people who live to complain will conveniently ignore this

_BBIB_ · Post #17 » by **_BBIB_** » Sun May 4, 2008 1:23 am

IDoIt4TheA wrote:I think the biggest thing Marvin needs to improve on is his consistency. He has far too many games where he has disappeared on us. His footwork also needs a lot of work. He looks so clumsy out there, when he drives to the basket he usually loses his footing.

But let's not give up on him just yet. He has a sweet looking jumper and I like that he likes takes the ball to the rack. He has developed a nice little go-to hook shot too. He also is a pretty good defender.

I don't think he'll ever make us forget about not drafting Paul, but I would be ok with keeping him if he can keep his head in the game and be more consistent.

You're right obviously he's been inconsistent, but the main point is that he HAS shown the flashes to suggest he can be a pretty good player in this league.

The fact that people have given up on him despite the fact that he's improved every year and despite the fact that he's only in his 2nd year as a starter and the youngest player on the 3rd youngest team in the league is inexcusable

Rip2137 · Post #18 » by **Rip2137** » Sun May 4, 2008 2:23 am

I still don't call performing great from October through January (forgets february) and well in March and April inconsistant though. I know you guys are going to disagree with me and its beating a dead horse, but seriously...he only had one bad month this season. one REALLLY bad month, but one bad month none-the-less and he was playing through a injury.

the kid will be fine.

High 5 · Post #19 » by **High 5** » Sun May 4, 2008 4:25 am

He played great the first two months and then he was pretty average or bad the rest of the way. I saw somewhere that Marvin was statistically the "most average" player in the NBA this season. A #2 pick in his 3rd year shouldn't be average, especially after playing so well at the beginning of the year.