Big Man thread

[TrentTuckerForever]

3 way trade perhaps?

Maybe... Walker's expiring has great value. This would have to be in the summer, since it would be a sign and trade, but:

Denver sends Camby to Charlotte.
Receives Walker (expiring), Buckner and McCants.

MN sends Walker, Buckner and McCants to Denver, future 1st round pick (Miami's, maybe?) to Charlotte.
Receives Okafor (S&T)

Charlotte sends Okafor to MN.
Receives Camby, future 1st from MN.

WHY FOR DENVER - If (big if, I know) Denver thinks Nene can stay healthy for a whole year, this is a salary dump that gets their finances in line plus upgrades their backcourt (Buckner and McCants) without having to move Iverson or Anthony. Denver would have their roster shakeup and wouldn't have to commit big money to JR Smith (McCants could duplicate his numbers in Denver.)

WHY FOR CHARLOTTE - Brown would get a ready-made defensive stopper in Camby. The Bobs' lineup would feature Camby, Jason Richardson, Gerald Wallace and the improving Raymond Felton. One more veteran big (and Nazr Mohammed could be that guy) and that's a playoff team.

WHY FOR MN - Okafor + Al Jeff = nice.

[Devilzsidewalk]

I was pondering Eddy Curry.

Obviously he doesn't fit in with D'Antoni's system. Does he fit for Minnesota?

Is he worth Antoine Walker's expiring contract?

[TrentTuckerForever]

I was pondering Eddy Curry.

Obviously he doesn't fit in with D'Antoni's system. Does he fit for Minnesota?

Is he worth Antoine Walker's expiring contract?

Did it take a long time, pondering all that Eddy Curry? My initial reaction is that I'd pass on this deal, but looking at the salaries (Walker for Curry works straight up) and Curry's potential (he's still only 25) I guess I'd have to ponder a bit too.

Diop went from being a 300 pound lotto pick in Cleveland to the svelte defensive anchor he is now. Of course, Diop didn't already have a long-term contract when he changed his frame and his game.

Curry does have tremendous potential, but the things he does well now (low post scoring) don't exactly mesh well with the other pieces on the Wolves. He's never going to be the best fit next to Jefferson like, say, a Tyson Chandler would be. I'd pass on Curry for the Wolves.

[Krapinsky]

RE: Eddy Curry

He's too big a risk. If he doesn't work out, which is most likely, he'll be unmovable for the next three years. Also, if his heart breaks down his contract is uninsured for most of it.

[shrink]

I think Eddy Curry is perhaps the worst contract in the NBA. He can score from 6 feet in, but he doesn't rebound, play defense, stay in shape, or seem to care about basketball one bit.

But the real killer for his three-year, $31 mil contract is that he is one of only a couple players in the whole NBA who's contract is uninsured. This arose when it was discovered in CHI he had an irregular heartbeat, and he refused to take a test to determine whether it was genetic. NYK signed him, and some Knick fans say that his contract can be bought out early if he develops heart problems. However, without insurance, any injury (real or imagined) to the fat, lazy center would cost Glen Taylor $31 mil.

If he had insurance, I might consider him (though for less than an expiring). But without insurance, I don't think he ever finds anyone who'd consider him but Dolan. Is Dolan the only guy in NBA history to trade for an uninsured player?

[TrentTuckerForever]

Is Dolan the only guy in NBA history to trade for an uninsured player?

Other than the guy who traded for Quentin Richardson and his uninsured back. Who traded for him... oh that's right, Isiah and Dolan!

[karch34]

Curry wouldn't be the best fit, but I'd consider him as part of a Jaric deal if the Knicks were desperate enough to move him we could maybe make out well. For Walker, I'd rather keep the expiring.

[Krapinsky]

^^^I was thinking a Jaric + Buckner deal for Curry, but that was when I thought his last year wasn't guaranteed.

Would a Curry + Jefferson defensive unit be much better than a Randolph + Curry matchup? I don't think so. Maybe a little bit, but not enough. We should be concentrating on getting rid of Jaric for a shorter or smaller contract not a bigger one.

[karch34]

I was thinking more along the lines of Curry for Jaric and Madsen. Buckner's expiring is too valuable. I like Madsen but he won't see the court and his deal is one year less than Curry which is the same length as Jaric's. At least I believe it's that's accurate length. My thought was that in that deal we're not giving up much value and the money is almost a wash. Plus, I don't think Jaric has much trade value.

That said it's not a great defensive tandem up front. I agree there's better options, but not sure how plausible.

[Tekkenlaw]

A boston fan made a point about us not necessarily needing a defensive stalwart at center, but just a capable defender. He talked about Kendrick Perkins and Al Jefferson being solid together.

Curry is a terrible defender but maybe we just need a big body next to Al Jefferson, and Curry is as big as they come. I think there are better options out there for us, but he could be had for next to nothing.

[Krapinsky]

I'm not rooting for Eddy Curry. I just refuse to do it. End of discussion.

[TrentTuckerForever]

A boston fan made a point about us not necessarily needing a defensive stalwart at center, but just a capable defender. He talked about Kendrick Perkins and Al Jefferson being solid together.

I think this is exactly right philosophically (we need to pair Big Al with a role playing, defensive center), but when has Curry ever played like a role playing, defensive center?

And that's not even considering the finances. As Shrink would say, do you want to pay $11 million for a guy who isn't as good a defender as Perkins? I'd rather pay the full midlevel ($5-6 million) for Diop in free agency than do that, and I'm not convinced that Diop is worth the full midlevel.

[Devilzsidewalk]

If Curry would just lose some damn weight, if he lost 40 lbs he'd be instantly better. We could trade for him and demand he get gastro bypass surgery

[deeney0]

Do we need another big body next to Al? No doubt. Is that Eddy Curry? Uh, no. No.